IU Basketball News and Notes

[Demo]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

Need to point out to Coach that Reneau did, in fact, get the tip. 

[Stuhoo]

50 minutes ago, Demo said:

Need to point out to Coach that Reneau did, in fact, get the tip. 

And that from that opening tip, he was not at all nervous.

Ya: “Don’t lie to me. In your first college game y’all gonna be nervous.”

vs.

Woody: “Well again, I can’t have my freshmen being nervous. Son, we need you right away.”

I’m with Woody..

 

[MikeRoberts]

3 hours ago, str8baller said:

I wouldn’t even call it hate. Realistically, to be a team ranked in the teens we need about 2 of 5 or 6 realistic things to happen. If we get more than that, maybe we can over achieve. But if none of it happens—which is unlikely but definitely a real possibility—we’re the same fringe tourney team we were last year. 

If we are a fringe tourney team this year then a TON went wrong.

certainly possible but man that would be a huge disappointment!

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Damon Bailey may be in the house for the exhibition game against St. Francis.  His son Brayton is a  sophomore on the St. Francis team and a likely starter.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/son-of-an-iu-basketball-legend-to-start-against-hoosiers-in-thursday-exhibition/?fbclid=IwAR34xllFEyR-8vgbi8mfWetlhdk_cgYEY_GHIMASLZwFM9ra7m0n3aOT3IQ

[monskisprodigy]

12 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

This was great. Need more of this. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

For your viewing pleasure all in one place.

https://www.insidethehall.com/2022/11/02/roundup-heres-where-indiana-basketball-is-ranked-in-every-preseason-top-25/

 

[DChoosier]

Great to see TJD and Fino on the list.  UNC has 4 players listed. Going to be a battle at the Hall and will be interesting to see TJD vs Bacot and how Malik does vs the UNC front court. 

[Honkyman]

14 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

If we are a fringe tourney team this year then a TON went wrong.

Either that or IU has been overrated in the pre-season polls. I think the team will be good and easily make the tourney.  But we still have a serious flaw--namely reliable 3-point shooters. As good as the recruiting class was, IU did not bring in a sharp shooter.  Fans are pointing to a good showing in an exhibition game against a weak opponent as proof that perimeter shooting will be significantly better than it has been. We need to wait until the competition is more serious before jumping to any conclusions about our shooting.

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Either that or IU has been overrated in the pre-season polls. I think the team will be good and easily make the tourney.  But we still have a serious flaw--namely reliable 3-point shooters. As good as the recruiting class was, IU did not bring in a sharp shooter.  Fans are pointing to a good showing in an exhibition game against a weak opponent as proof that perimeter shooting will be significantly better than it has been. We need to wait until the competition is more serious before jumping to any conclusions about our shooting.

I base the improved shooting in a large part on what Woody has said. Woody doesn't do a lot of sugar-coating. For instance, he says that Trayce will still take very few threes, and he doesn't comment on Jalen's three point shooting or whether X can sustain his high make rate from last year.

He does say that Kopp, Bates, and Race will be improved distance shooters. He repeats it regularly, and he says it in a way that shows he means it, not just that he hopes so.

[Demo]

Anyone care to step forward?

[Honkyman]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I base the improved shooting in a large part on what Woody has said

I hope Woodson is right. He also said last year that players were hitting their 3s in practice but not in games.

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

I hope Woodson is right. He also said last year that players were hitting their 3s in practice but not in games.

That was also true -- hope he doesn't say that again. I don't know how many times last year I was watching an IU game and my arms went in the air as the offense produced a WIDE open look (especially at the end of the year) for Bates, Kopp, or Stewart, only to watch it clank away.

For Stewart's last 15 games as a Hoosier, he was 9-30 from three (30%), Bates was 11-38 (29%), and Kopp was 8-29 (28%).

For the same time period, Phin was 41%. X and Race were also above 40% for those games.

 

[IU Scott]

34 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Either that or IU has been overrated in the pre-season polls. I think the team will be good and easily make the tourney.  But we still have a serious flaw--namely reliable 3-point shooters. As good as the recruiting class was, IU did not bring in a sharp shooter.  Fans are pointing to a good showing in an exhibition game against a weak opponent as proof that perimeter shooting will be significantly better than it has been. We need to wait until the competition is more serious before jumping to any conclusions about our shooting.

How do we know this year's team flaw is outside shooting.

[Hoosierfan2017]

56 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

How do we know this year's team flaw is outside shooting.

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

[Stuhoo]

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

WE DID NOT LOSE OUR BEST SHOOTER TO THE PORTAL! (sorry to yell ... lol)

Parker Stewart was our best shooter against sh!tty teams and/or teams with sh!tty defenses. He absolutely tore it up from 3pt against Louisiana U (6-7), Syracuse (6-12), Jackson State (3-6), and Minnesota (6-10). That's 21-35 in those games and 32-100 in all other games. And even that 32% is complimentary; he started 'okay' against decent teams and got worse. After mid-February is when he really sank - he was 6-29 from three in his last nine games at IU.

Against good/very good teams he was largely a crappy, mediocre, frustrating outside shooter. X was so much better from deep against 'non-cupcake' schools it isn't even comparable! Hell, even Race was better from deep against non-cupcakes.

[IU Scott]

14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team.

I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was.  I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot.  I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter.

JHS over RP 

Gunn over Stewart 

Reneau over Durr 

Banks over Lander 

I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost

 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team.

I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was.  I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot.  I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter.

JHS over RP 

Gunn over Stewart 

Reneau over Durr 

Banks over Lander 

I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost

 

Disagree.

Durr is clearly a superior player to Malik Reneau.

 

;)

[Hovadipo]

32 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

God-tier shooter. Pretty average maker.

And kind of a turd.

[HoosierHoopster]

42 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team.

I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was.  I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot.  I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter.

JHS over RP 

Gunn over Stewart 

Reneau over Durr 

Banks over Lander 

I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost

 

You left out Bates, we'll have to wait and see (of course) what he does in the games but he was a strong HS shooter, the talk from staff and players is that he's shooting very well, his shot looked very good at HH, and I'd bank on him shooting and scoring at a significantly improved level this season. Also, JG can shoot and in big moments, I'd bank on his low 30's percentage getting up to the 35% or so range, and I'm hoping he shoots more, he nailed a number of big moment - clutch shots last season.

[go iu bb]

44 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Disagree.

Durr is clearly a superior player to Malik Reneau.

 

;)

I'll have what you're having, it must be some great stuff.;)