IU Basketball News and Notes

[HoosierAloha]

It's good except the rebounding part, he does not rebound well at all. I've said I think he'll be better with JHS and X in the backcourt so he'll get those open looks, the question though then is whether he'll take them. It wasn't so much his shooting last season as his LACK of shooting. Sure, he brings some weak side D (though his lateral movement isn't great) and he does communicate well, but his primary role out there should be drilling open shots, it's most definitely not rebounding. I'd also bet on his minutes averaging significantly less than 20. Bates is going to get a lot of minutes, along with JG (more so in the frontcourt).

Hopefully X and JHS keep their man in front of them too. Kopp over helping on defense is a recipe for WIDE OPEN shots by opponents.


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[Crimson and Cream]

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[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Crimson and Cream said:

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So Jeff Goodman,

you’re telling me that Trayce, Race, or X may not be our best player this year?

okaaaaaayy I like that a lot.

[Demo]

14 minutes ago, Crimson and Cream said:

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Would have been shocked by any other response.

[IU Scott]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

So Jeff Goodman,

you’re telling me that Trayce, Race, or X may not be our best player this year?

okaaaaaayy I like that a lot.

Didn't say the best player on the team but best pro prospect 

[Hoosierfan2017]

3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Didn't say the best player on the team but best pro prospect 

Yeah Trayce will likely be our best player this season but he isn’t our best pro prospect. He’s 23 years old and lacks the perimeter game he probably needs to succeed in the pros at his size. 

JHS is the reason the scouts came to the pro day, so it’s not at all surprising that they view him as the best pro prospect. 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Didn't say the best player on the team but best pro prospect 

That’s why I said “may.”

[IU - Kaulie]

21 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Well ****; sometimes we need to read the tea leaves and sometimes the tea leaves are spelled out into the clearest of clear conclusions.

In a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, IUBB released a practice video today in which there were exactly five players wearing red jerseys. And in a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, those five are your current IUBB starting lineup. They are: 

Trayce Jackson Davis 

Race Thompson 

Miller Kopp 

Jalen Hood Schifino, and

Xavier Johnson 

Other things to note;

Nice right hand finish + flex by TJD over Logan

A little glimpse of a much better form jumper by Gallo.

Yay!  This is what I was expecting and hoping for.

[rcbowla]

Early season starters aren't that big of deal to me.  I'm more interested in the starters over the last 1/3 of the season.

If last year is any indication it will be the same throughout.

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[Stuhoo]

Trayce and Woody do not care for Michigan.

 

[Hovadipo]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

Trayce and Woody do not care for Michigan.

 

Trayce is playing himself and the piñata is Hunter Dickinson in the 2nd half of the B1G Tourney game. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Trayce and Woody do not care for Michigan.
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That was funny and ?dangerous? Not sure what that stick was made off but geez.


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[lillurk]

On 10/6/2022 at 8:07 PM, Stuhoo said:

Well ****; sometimes we need to read the tea leaves and sometimes the tea leaves are spelled out into the clearest of clear conclusions.

In a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, IUBB released a practice video today in which there were exactly five players wearing red jerseys. And in a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, those five are your current IUBB starting lineup. They are: 

Trayce Jackson Davis 

Race Thompson 

Miller Kopp 

Jalen Hood Schifino, and

Xavier Johnson 

Other things to note;

Nice right hand finish + flex by TJD over Logan

A little glimpse of a much better form jumper by Gallo.

This probably came up in the hysteria thread but the starters were also the starters Friday night.

I think this makes sense — Kopp fits with the starters as a catch-and-shoot guy who plays good team defense. On a second unit his limitations would be more glaring. Sometimes fit matters more than strictly five best, and other guys might close.

[lillurk]

Need more Pro Day intel leaks, Goodman’s tweet is not enough

[HoosierHoopster]

2 hours ago, lillurk said:

This probably came up in the hysteria thread but the starters were also the starters Friday night.

I think this makes sense — Kopp fits with the starters as a catch-and-shoot guy who plays good team defense. On a second unit his limitations would be more glaring. Sometimes fit matters more than strictly five best, and other guys might close.

Agree, and would say at least one other guy WILL close

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Agree, and would say at least one other guy WILL close

And that will likely be Bates or Geronimo, but I’d bet the most likely would be...

Trey Galloway 

[HoosierTrav]

I’m really hoping to see Tamar Bates in the starting lineup over Miler Kopp. Bates showed flashes of a higher ceiling than Kopp when he got more than spot minutes. Kopp just doesn’t move the needle for me at all. I see a lot of what we saw last season from him. 

[lillurk]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

And that will likely be Bates or Geronimo, but I’d bet the most likely would be...

Trey Galloway 

Yes, when he was healthy last year that lineup (w/Phin in the JHS spot) closed leads. Extra ball-handler, good decision-maker, maybe your best wing defender (JHS and/or Geronimo have a chance to pass him on the last point).

[lillurk]

45 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

I’m really hoping to see Tamar Bates in the starting lineup over Miler Kopp. Bates showed flashes of a higher ceiling than Kopp when he got more than spot minutes. Kopp just doesn’t move the needle for me at all. I see a lot of what we saw last season from him. 

I made the lineup fit case earlier but I would also say bringing Bates off the bench fits when you start the two guys you plan to play 100% of the PG minutes. I’d expect one of the PGs to see early rest so their minutes can be more easily staggered.

Having Bates as a 6th man who spells, say, JHS say the 16 minute mark allows JHS to give X a breather at 12, rather than both of them sitting at the same time.

You could manage that if you start Bates, though not in such a straightforward fashion, unless at 16 you rest both Bates AND a PG.

[Honkyman]

11 hours ago, lillurk said:

I’m really hoping to see Tamar Bates in the starting lineup over Miler Kopp.

Coach Woodson likes Miller Kopp in the starting lineup. That's the end of the discussion, at least for now. As mentioned, having Bates come off the bench to spell Xavier Johnson or Jalen Hill-Schifino makes good sense and such a role will provide Bates with near starter time. Also as mentioned above, Trey Galloway--when he gets into true playing shape--will likely end up playing quite a bit of time at the 3 (hopefully with improved perimeter shooting). There could be changes if the team underperforms with the current projected starting lineup, ie TJD, Race Thompson, Miller Kopp, X Johnson, and JH-S. We'll see.