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57 minutes ago, Josh said:

Can you show me what National Championship talent you're talking about?  I can think of Kyle Guy, and that was one guy damn near a decade ago.  Maybe I'm missing on all the National Championship talent from Indiana you're talking about?

Conley, Oden, Guy, Zeller, May, McGary, Robinson, albrecht, Jeffries, odle, plumlee, Hayward, Howard, smith, loyer, Teague, Gardner, and probably more just this century who have won or played for, in a meaningful capacity, a national title. That’s more than 1 every other year. IU fans rightfully so sit back and wonder why the hell IU isn’t get those guys. And that isn’t even counting the tons of great players who didn’t make it to the last day of the tournament. 
 

How many Indiana guys won or played for a title elsewhere during knights heyday vs the ones that played for him? I bet the ratio was a lot lower. Montross got away, in part due to knights increasing surly relationships with people, and it was talked about quite a bit as unc rose and IU sunk. 

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I’ll be honest with ye utility these days I don’t really believe all of the flight stuff because everything can be done virtually and with docusign etc but with that being said I do feel there are three reasons Stevens could absolutely be tge next coach. 1. Dusty May signing the extension… I know people say he could easily get out if that extension but IMO he could’ve easily said I want to wait until after the season to discuss the extension if he knew IU was truly in play 2. Brad Stevens quote to Goodman was such a political generic answer that anyone is gonna give. He’s not a candidate until he is. I also interviewed for a job recently but if my boss asks I’m happy and not looking elsewhere. Fact is it’s human nature and in sports you have to be very generic in order to respect the current coach and your current team when there is this much time in between that comment and the end of the season. 3. There are insiders not on this site and those insiders are hearing nothing such as Trilly. If it were certain coaches being targeted from college I feel those leaks would somehow get out and there is no way we are this far along and there not be leaks of IU targeting certain college coaches

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Hey guys, I've been away for a few days...did I miss anything?

How long do you have?
Because yall missed lots


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7 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Conley, Oden, Guy, Zeller, May, McGary, Robinson, albrecht, Jeffries, odle, plumlee, Hayward, Howard, smith, loyer, Teague, Gardner, and probably more just this century who have won or played for, in a meaningful capacity, a national title. That’s more than 1 every other year. IU fans rightfully so sit back and wonder why the hell IU isn’t get those guys. And that isn’t even counting the tons of great players who didn’t make it to the last day of the tournament. 
 

How many Indiana guys won or played for a title elsewhere during knights heyday vs the ones that played for him? I bet the ratio was a lot lower. Montross got away, in part due to knights increasing surly relationships with people, and it was talked about quite a bit as unc rose and IU sunk. 

And how does that compare to other states

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41 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

What do folks think our record would be if McCollum was coaching us this year?

I think a better question might be, who would win if we played Drake right now. I think Drake would win….they beat Vanderbilt by 10 points, Vandy has beaten Tennessee and Kentucky this season and would likely beat us!

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6 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I think a better question might be, who would win if we played Drake right now. I think Drake would win….they beat Vanderbilt by 10 points, Vandy has beaten Tennessee and Kentucky this season and would likely beat us!

We’re going with the transitive property to try and justify this?

This IU train wreck and 23-2 Drake are dead even in the NET.

On a neutral court this IU team would probably currently be about a five point favorite over Drake. IU would be the second highest rated team they’ve played this year. Vandy is rated higher at NET 44.

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4 minutes ago, Josh said:

And how does that compare to other states

I don’t have numbers to back this up but I think pretty well by some metrics. There may be more total from CA and TX just because of how huge they are. Not as many as you’d think from NYC metro area or the DMV. And those aren’t really single states like Indiana. I’d be surprised if Indiana were not top 5-10. But I think this conversation is a little silly. Indiana is in a fertile recruiting ground. Local pipelines are important. Start there IMO and eventually we can become a national brand that means something then recruit like it 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Josh said:

And how does that compare to other states

Purdue has three Indiana kids averaging 30+ minutes and a couple more in their rotation. I’m not a “only recruit Indiana kids” guy, but it’s a lot easier to convince in-state kids to come to a struggling IU program than it is kids outside the state. It can also help build a culture as a program. 

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3 minutes ago, Josh said:

And how does that compare to other states

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/basketball/2019/01/22/which-state-birthed-most-active-nba-players-per-capita-indiana/2524079002/

 

 

https://1075thefan.com/playlist/the-top-10-states-that-have-produced-the-most-nba-and-aba-players/item/1

you can quantify many ways. But they do these nba lists every so often and Indiana is always top 5. In the one linked were 5 but basically 3 if you throw out the small pop outliers like n. Dakota.  
 

 

 

Indiana puts out more basketball talent than most and that’s largely due to our great HS system. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

We’re going with the transitive property to try and justify this?

This IU train wreck and 23-2 Drake are dead even in the NET.

On a neutral court this IU team would probably currently be about a five point favorite over Drake. IU would be the second highest rated team they’ve played this year. Vandy is rated higher at NET 44.

Even if what you say is true, with all the advantages of IU and this being Woodson’s 4th year and McCollum’s 1st, it says a lot, and I think they beat us easily. The Vanderbilt game was at a neutral arena….

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27 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Turrible. Because none of the current players would be experienced in McCollum’s system.

or more likely 

Turrible. Because we very likely would have a much less talented roster and they would get rolled against a steady diet of high major schools.

The hypo was with our current roster. Since we don’t even have a system this season I find it hard to believe we’d by significantly worse if these players had to run one. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

We’re going with the transitive property to try and justify this?

This IU train wreck and 23-2 Drake are dead even in the NET.

On a neutral court this IU team would probably currently be about a five point favorite over Drake. IU would be the second highest rated team they’ve played this year. Vandy is rated higher at NET 44.

Vandy also beat Beard and Company 

Posted
17 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I think they beat us easily

I think Drake is a good team.  I’ve watched most their games and the whole run in the non conference where they beat Kansas st and Vandy. I’ve also seen them get taken to OT at home by Indiana St which is having a down year.    IU has lost 1 possession games to teams that are currently being projected as protected seeds  on the road and home and have beaten them on the road.   College basketball is crazy which is why it’s the greatest sport ever so anything can happen but I see no way Drake beats IU easily.  Could they win? Yeah but no way easily.   IU would probably be favored in the game 

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19 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Vandy also beat Beard and Company 

OMG — transitive logic. To justify why a team that will have to win it’s conference tournament to make the field is better than their actual verified current results of 59 in the NET. 

This is a team that needed overtime to beat both ISU and Missouri State this month. They had a big advantage early in the season because of team continuity. They are having a great year for Drake, but last year with Devries as coach Drake was better! 47th in the NET.

Why don’t you give the love to Devries? He was better at Drake, is in his 40’s, and is doing fantastic in a P5 conference.

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