General Coach Candidate News

[Stuhoo 88,842]

10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Just sayin'...in that gif his team is ahead 33-13. That's a coach you probably don't want to 'f' with

[rcbowla 8,214]

I don't want Alford at all, but honestly if the administration is hellbent on picking an IU guy then he would be my choice. He's the only one with actual college head coaching experience. We'd know what we are getting, which admittedly isn't all that great, but I'd rather do it than take a flier on an assistant or Woodson. 

Fife does have D1 HC experience to be fair

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,271]

I guess I'll just hop on the Woodson train. Let's just get something done boys. Anything will be better Archie. 

[rcbowla 8,214]

We don't really know who option 1 has been.
What if it's been Porter Moser, Enfield, Mike Lewis, Drew, Musselman, or Oats all along? 
Can anyone really tell me why that cannot be the case? And if so, we would not get a whisper for a few more weeks.
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One thing I'm reasonably sure of. If we don't hear by the end of this week, then we are not going after Beilein, Woodson, Fife, Beard, Alford, or Mack. That would happen by this Friday, give or take a day or two. 
 

At least they aren't at the top anyhow. They could still end up being the guy if the top options don't pan out but agree with your overall point

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[hoosierbgh 1,270]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

He's gonna be 63 this week. He can be a recruiting closer, but he's not gonna be out there beating the AAU bushes.

However, I really think his best recruiting plus is who he could put on staff. In the past ten years, he's been hanging out with so many big-name, high character NBA players: Felton, Delk, about to retire DeAndre Jordan (would be an incredible assistant), Melo and Rose, Jamal Crawford (what a GREAT get he would be). Too many others to name.

 

For some reason having a staff made up of assistants that almost certainly received impermissible benefits while in college does not give me the warm and fuzzies. 

[Hoosierfan222 734]

In this age, having the strongest meme game is the key to success... Woodson is one of the best in that regard!

[Hoosierfan2017 24,655]

7 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Fife does have D1 HC experience to be fair

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Sorry yeah I forgot about Fife's time at IPFW

[Hoosierfan222 734]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not that it should matter but don't you have to have a degree to be an assistant? I don't believe any of those players you named have one. But I could be wrong. 

Is that an actual rule? That seems bizarre

[Nonymouse 115]

49 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I guess I'm confused, if all the rumors are to be believed, why Dolson started with his A-list candidate, and when that supposedly fell through he pulled out his D-list instead of waiting for the Bs to finish the tournament.

I mean, you obviously start with your dream hire and work your way down. I don’t know that the admin ever preferred some of the guys this board does over TM - and I’d argue rightfully so. 

And sure, there may be other calls to make before you get to JB and MW (or even TM), but if they’re not interested, that process takes five minutes.

I also just don’t know all of what they’ve heard already from the agents of the guys still in the tourney. It could be that for one or two of them they’ve been told “I’ll talk to you when we’re eliminated” in which case you move forward with narrowing your pool but don’t make the hire yet if it’s possible he could rise to the top of your list. For example, it could be that they still want to talk to someone like Porter before they make they’re hire, even if they favor JB and MW right now. 

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[Evariste Galois 592]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Is that an actual rule? That seems bizarre

I do not know, but I am nearly 100% sure it is not a rule.

Edit: I am not advocating for those assistant coaches, by the way.

[Hardwood83 5,009]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Best coach we could get?

A great question that we'll never be able to answer in 2021. This I think we can all agree is true:

Somewhere out there is a first ballot hall of fame coach that is in his 30's or early 40's and on someone's staff. We can get him ... now.

THAT is the best coach we could get. Now name him (cause I can't ;)

Sure, I understand that. I don't think IU is in a position to take that route now. I'm advocating for the best known quantity.

For example Option 1-Brad Stevens. NO? ok who's next? Not Mike Woodson or up & comer guy. That is my opinion. 

 

[Nonymouse 115]

58 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But we'll take an NBA assistant?

It’s possible, yes. 

[Golfman25 6,691]

51 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But we'll take an NBA assistant?

who hasn't sniffed the college game in 30 years.  

[HoosierTrav 8,305]

If it’s Woodson, I think we should wait to see what kind of staff he can put together, before we get our pitchforks out. Juwan Howard had zero head coaching experience and zero experience recruiting. He’s dominating right now. Woodson is highly respected amongst players and coaches in the NBA. If he can put together a high powered staff, I can absolutely see how young talent would want to come play for Woody. At this point, how much worse can it get than Archie? Bring on Woody. If he doesn’t work out, we can put the whole “IU needs an IU guy” theory to rest, for good. 

[Trish 14,463]

I would just like to state that Archie Miller ran a very good program here at Indiana, outside of winning of course.

We didn't have players running over each other, your start PG getting arrested during Little 500, grade issues. 

Thanks, Arch! 

[Evariste Galois 592]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

who hasn't sniffed the college game in 30 years.  

Dolson said he would consider assistants and he wanted to bring a modern NBA focused approach... Woodson would allow him to claim success, if nothing else.

[ap2345 11,320]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Is that an actual rule? That seems bizarre

Why because a school employee needs a college degree? It’s not bizarre at all.

[Hovadipo 61,335]

I get the feeling someone in the AD is dropping some food coloring in the toilet tank. 

[Hoosier_Hatchet 83]

20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

He's gonna be 63 this week. He can be a recruiting closer, but he's not gonna be out there beating the AAU bushes.

However, I really think his best recruiting plus is who he could put on staff. In the past ten years, he's been hanging out with so many big-name, high character NBA players: Felton, Delk, about to retire DeAndre Jordan (would be an incredible assistant), Melo and Rose, Jamal Crawford (what a GREAT get he would be). Too many others to name.

 

I think all of those guys could be leveraged for recruiting purposes.   But, I'm not sure any of them are big time college basketball assistants. 

I would think we would want to surround Woody with assistants who have experience on the recruiting trail.  Kenya Hunter seems like a no brainer to keep on board with his recruiting ties and abilities.  He would have the east coast recruiting ties.   I think an assistant with Indiana/midwest ties would be next.  

Next, I really think we need an assistant who would be our defensive coordinator so to speak.  Woody seems to be the offensive guru.  I think we need someone that could bring an expertise on defense to his staff.  

I'm softening to the idea of Woodson.  I think smart hires for assistant coaches could give us a pretty strong staff. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,271]

20 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Well he's coaching the slowest paced team in the entire NBA at the moment.

So... 

That's a Thibs coached team right there.