General Coach Candidate News

[Asha’man]

23 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

None of those.  I am just not a POS that thinks what he did was OK.  I am a male in his 40s.  But way to go to show your true colors there…

The Knight comment…..We need a reboot of this program.  Just ditch the past and move on.  It’s holding us back.  That’s my point.  No one should give two craps whether a coach is associated with Knight.  It shouldn’t even be a criteria.  

 I may have missed it, but I haven’t seen a single person say what Beard did was ok. But let chill will characterizing people as POS. 

[Hoosier987]

1 hour ago, IU Prof said:

Not really. Here are Beard's records at Power 5 schools (omitting the shortened, final season at UT):

18-14 (6-12)

27-10 (11-7)

31-7 (14-4)

18-13 (9-9)

18-11 (9-8)

22-12 (10-8)

20-12 (7-11)

21-9 (10-7)

Take away a big year 3, and that's very Woodson-esque.

If I showed you that resume with any other name attached to it, people wouldn't get nearly as excited as they do when it's Chris Beard. And that's before we even get into the baggage.

Beard has done this at schools that are not easy to win at. Heck, he probably wins a Title at TTU if not for the corner 3 from the UVA player in the title game. What he’s done at Ole Miss is nothing short of remarkable. Beard would win big here…it’s the exact reason why we’re looking at him…or as Rabjohns put it “thawing of the ice.”
 

Indiana is at a fork in the road…do we want to have a REaL chance of winning again or do we go and hire another less than able or more risky coach with no high major experience while hoping for the next “Bo Ryan?” Far too often we’ve taken the wrong road which has led us to where we are. How many times over the years could we have had Pearl, Pitino, kept the HOF coach like Sampson? Multiple times. Instead, we hire the guy who is boring and doesn’t fit in the fishbowl at IUBB. It doesn’t work. If we end up getting a Schertz, McCollum, etc over Beard that will be a very tough pill to swallow as it’s the exact same play that we’ve made (sans Sampson) over the past 25 years. 

[Chris007]

I got a text from a buddy in the AD this morning.

How many new subscriptions do you think Rabby got last night with the Beard talk? LOL, I bet every Facebook Fred signed up. If you're not going to get info, you might as well make money.

By the way, there was no interview Monday or Sunday 

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Pagoda said:

Yea.  Isaac’s made up stuff made it to the Trilly discord in like two seconds.  It’s hard to believe anything that shows up on there.  For instance yesterday there were all those Otz rumors… almost certainly all nonsense and noise.

If people think BTB is like a pack of rabid dogs, that discord is the stuff of aliens and savages… I was in it last offseason for a month but it was just too much for me to keep up with in there lol

[Artie86]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

If you can get Beard for maybe 4 million then try to run it by the president. But both know their jobs would be on the line. I've already heard of professors on campus who said they would have people follow him around town taking pictures of him getting drunk like he still does in Oxford. He would make it through the football season. It's a no go

....Beard's wife after he wins the BIGTEN....lol

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Asha’man said:

 I may have missed it, but I haven’t seen a single person say what Beard did was ok. But let chill will characterizing people as POS. 

You have missed at least one poster very much making light of the situation.

[IU Prof]

6 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Beard has done this at schools that are not easy to win at. Heck, he probably wins a Title at TTU if not for the corner 3 from the UVA player in the title game. What he’s done at Ole Miss is nothing short of remarkable. Beard would win big here…it’s the exact reason why we’re looking at him…or as Rabjohns put it “thawing of the ice.”
 

Indiana is at a fork in the road…do we want to have a REaL chance of winning again or do we go and hire another less than able or more risky coach with no high major experience while hoping for the next “Bo Ryan?” Far too often we’ve taken the wrong road which has led us to where we are. How many times over the years could we have had Pearl, Pitino, kept the HOF coach like Sampson? Multiple times. Instead, we hire the guy who is boring and doesn’t fit in the fishbowl at IUBB. It doesn’t work. If we end up getting a Schertz, McCollum, etc over Beard that will be a very tough pill to swallow as it’s the exact same play that we’ve made (sans Sampson) over the past 25 years. 

One can certainly interpret Beard's record as someone who could win here. 

But you could also interpret it as Beard putting together an outlier season or two early at Texas Tech, and then reverting to his actual ability level there after. He wouldn't be the only coach that shines bright early at a school, but is unable to maintain it.

Again, what McCasland has done at Texas Tech makes Beard's 3rd and 4th seasons there more concerning.

[Jet812]

57 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

That's totally fair. I'm just talking final records. I have no doubt Beard's teams are consistently more competitive. But I don't think people would sign up for those end results.

People keep saying "Beard wins." But he actually doesn't.

His tournament record is really good, no doubt bolstered by a run to the final game, but 11-5 is really good overall.  I agree with you though, I’d like to see a little better regular season & conf win %.

[JPCIVOP]

26 minutes ago, GP711 said:

Lets have a Friday :)

There's really nothing like BTB on a Friday during this coaching search. Truly unique...

[HoosierCoop]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Let's finish this 

[OKHOOSIER]

49 minutes ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said:

Huh??? Beard took TTU to an Elite 8 and then the Natty in back to back seasons. He also had UT top 5 in the country in just his second season before being dismissed. He took Little Rock to the tourney and beat Purdue as well….I know you don’t like him and that’s fair, but to say he’s not a good coach is extremely false.

I don't think anyone is arguing that he isn't a good coach, just that his career numbers don't really warrant the weird obsession with him. Even if you include his one season at LR (17-3) and his D2 time he is a career .520 coach in conference games with one final four and two elite eights. He is an excellent non-conference coach. He has done well in his  NCAA experience. He is not (as of yet) remotely elite in conference games at the P5 level. One (tie with KU) conference title.

 He is a good coach. He is not (as of yet) the second coming of RMK and has baggage many folks are uncomfortable with. Dolson will have to weigh those things. I also think winning at TT and OM is hard, but GM seems to have done well at TT so who knows. I think good coaches produce good results, sometimes location is really overstated as a marker of coaching chops (I am skeptical of Collins and Brownell for example-- I think Beard would win more than either of them have at NW or Clemson respectively).

Anyways, doubt he gets beyond interviews and vetting since he'd be at UK or UL if he could, but I will trust Dolson even if I disagree with his candidacy for HC at IU. 

FWIW and without comment: just being charged with something like that would keep you from being hired in my industry. It does not matter if the charges are dropped, they are visible on an FBI 10-year and would preclude someone from getting called back, much less getting to the interviews required for attaining the clearance needed. 

[IU Prof]

30 minutes ago, IU5355 said:

Clark regional to Naples

Laurence hanscom to Naples 

Landing 6 mins apart

 

Not to pour cold water on this, but based on a quick check, I didn’t see any return flights scheduled back home to either location on the books for today. That suggests that it might not be a coordinated business meeting.

[IUBtown]

14 minutes ago, Gameface01 said:

Good lord, not sure if it's an issue with others, but I know my wife would still **** me even if I rooted for Beard. 

But she also doesn't think a man should have to get the **** beat out of him and let it happen just because of the gender of the one who's laying the @$$ whoopin. 

1 full week of Cronin, Turgeon wasn't enjoyable for alot of people either. But, we went through it

People gloss over the fact that his fiance went in to the room where he was sitting grabbed his reading glasses and snapped them.  How does she have a bite mark on her arm?  Did beard just go up and bite her arm?  No she likely jumped on his back and he did it in self defense.  

[IUGRAD06]

1 minute ago, IUBtown said:

People gloss over the fact that his fiance went in to the room where he was sitting grabbed his reading glasses and snapped them.  How does she have a bite mark on her arm?  Did beard just go up and bite her arm?  No she likely jumped on his back and he did it in self defense.  

Boohoo someone broke my glasses.  What a shitty comment.  JFC.  

[HoosierSadaseci]

7 hours ago, JustWinBaby said:

JFC man I really hope we get some sort of news that puts all this to bed real soon, I don't know how much Chris Beard discourse I can take hahaha

Need a Stevens banger to bring out the posters to tell everyone how delusional the board is to believe Stevens would actually be interested...

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

People gloss over the fact that his fiance went in to the room where he was sitting grabbed his reading glasses and snapped them.  How does she have a bite mark on her arm?  Did beard just go up and bite her arm?  No she likely jumped on his back and he did it in self defense.  

Would you attack your wife if she broke your glasses? You kidding me Clark? 

Please don't reproduce. 

[VFury]

"I don't want Beard because he's a bad person. Why yes I have a poster of Bob Knight up on my wall, why do you ask?"

[Home Jersey]

Just now, VFury said:

"I don't want Beard because he's a bad person. Why yes I have a poster of Bob Knight up on my wall, why do you ask?"

When did Bob Knight beat his wife? 

[IU Prof]

20 hours ago, IU Prof said:

This thread if it really does take 3 more weeks to name a new coach:

 

I was wrong...all it took was one new Beard rumor.

[HoosierSadaseci]

41 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm hearing that Dolson has been having some serious behind-the-scenes talks with Chris Collins' representatives. 

Scott and the IU administration like that Collins is from a fellow B1G school, runs a clean program and has taken them to their first three NCAA tourneys. They think he can really prosper at IU with better NIL and easier admissions. And Collins thinks he'd be able to more at IU than at NW. 

Dolson, who knows his hoops, also thinks Collins' is a whiz when it comes to X's and O's. Plus, we just can't beat the guy, so we're looking to get him to join us. I wouldn't be surprised when Northwestern's season ends to hear an announcement of Collins to IU. 

OK, I completely made that up. Just trying to create a diversion from all this sordid Chris Beard debate. (BTW, I actually do think Collins would be a very good hire for IU). 

I want to like and laugh at this post at the same time...