General Coach Candidate News

[IUHoosierJoe 2,153]

14 minutes ago, DLG3 said:

I know this isn’t more Stevens talk (though I love it), so I apologize in advance…

I’ve seen so many posts saying something to the effect of, “I completely trust Scott Dolson to get this right.” I want to believe that. I really do. 
 

But in my personal fandom experience, I feel like it’s mostly consisted of we can “no longer have nice things” as IU fans. Outside of a smattering of good memories  (Wat shot, Yogi against Iowa, beating UK in the tourney) the highlight for me was making the championship game in 2002. I was in 5th grade ha! My gut tells me we should finally be due for consistent success again. But how long have I been thinking that now.

I’m genuinely curious to hear opinions of why people trust Dolson so much, outside of the Cignetti hire. Maybe Chris or others could shed some light on this. For what it’s worth, I like the guy. But ya know, a blind squirrel and all that…What about Scott makes you trust him to get this right?

 

Because I think Scott knows he has to.  This is the last chance.  There are a lot of us who grew up with a great basketball program who are tired of investing in the underachieving crap of the past 25-30 years.  We will find something else to invest in if it doesn’t happen this time, and I think Scott is well aware of that.

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

21 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Iu will get a great coach either way? Where do you guys get your optimism? We haven't hired a great coach since knight. Sampson was a great coach so obviously that had to get blown up! I am praying things work out but I am not close to some of you guys confidence level lol

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Dolson hired Cignetti and that’s done wonders for the football program.  The same will happen for the basketball program.

[Hoosierfan1901 8,309]

10 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

Light day in the forum…. Still 22 more pages until 1500…. We are going to have to pick it up. We only have potentially 4 more weeks max. 

I’ll post a 500 page plan on IU Basketball’s future

[hoosierbannerd 3,520]

55 minutes ago, Motley's said:

No one believes that he wanted to come but the family said no. That’s a fairy tale. I don’t doubt that the family didn’t want to move. That’s the only part that’s accurate. Tracy has been very openly supportive of him taking new challenges. If he really wanted it, she would have supported him. 

My brother in law is a fraternity brother with Brad from DePauw and confirmed it was 1-3 vote with Brad being the one so yeah I believe it...

[BGleas 9,030]

7 minutes ago, Jet812 said:

Nothing anyone here could say would ever convince him (unless he hears it directly from the Celtics) Stevens would EVER consider leaving the BOSTON CELTICS…lol.  He’ll probably still argue even if it is announced.  It’s all he posts…

Here, I'll give you something else. 

I'm excited about this hire. It's been awhile, but I posted earlier in this thread that I'm more confident in this hiring cycle than any of the recent ones. 

With IU's position with NIL and the portal, I think there is a much deeper talent pool this time. A grand slam hire would be great, but isn't necessary this time. 

We just need a real, dedicated college basketball coach with a track record of building culture and identity, that can coach the X's and O's and is a winner. 

We don't need a press conference win or a big splash for recruiting purposes like in previous cycles. 

I'm confident for most of the potential candidates. 

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

So Rabby is consistently saying that there's no secret deal with a coach, there's no way its stevens, that he's completely ruled out. Trilly says he hasn't heard much but doesn't think its stevens and thinks its a current coach coaching..

Do we really believe we got stevens? 

[J34 1,639]

Maybe Stevens is considering the move back to college because the NBA ratings are down,  and it just isn't a very good product anymore. 

[HoosierInParadise 1,659]

My brother in law is a fraternity brother with Brad from DePauw and confirmed it was 1-3 vote with Brad being the one so yeah I believe it...

I believe in fairytales...

[go iu bb 9,615]

2 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

So Rabby is consistently saying that there's no secret deal with a coach, there's no way its stevens, that he's completely ruled out. Trilly says he hasn't heard much but doesn't think its stevens and thinks its a current coach coaching..

Do we really believe we got stevens? 

Some people on this board do believe that, others don't. You should come to your own conclusion on if you believe it or not.

[rcbowla 8,261]

People criticizing posters for believing Stevens isn't a realistic candidate and saying it over and over. Same people keep saying they believe he's coming over and over. One has a big piece of evidence to suggest he's not and the other has hope. Believe what you want to believe. I think many that are adamant that he's not a candidate feel that way because a) he said so and b) because they don't want to exhaust themselves with hope only to be let down. So it's a lot easier on the ol' brain and heart to just contemplate candidates that haven't said that they aren't candidates.

[HoosierInParadise 1,659]

So Rabby is consistently saying that there's no secret deal with a coach, there's no way its stevens, that he's completely ruled out. Trilly says he hasn't heard much but doesn't think its stevens and thinks its a current coach coaching..

Do we really believe we got stevens? 

I believe that no one knows anything definitive at this point. To me, there hasn't been enough hard evidence either way to make a call on if he is the guy or not. What I also believe is that it is WAY easier, if you run a web-based opperation that is dependent on you being correct on your predictions, to flatout say that Stevens is not coming to IU. None of these guys that make their living off of their predictions can afford to be wrong if they say he's coming and he doesn't. They CAN, however, get away with it and absorb it, if they say he's not coming, and then he does...

[rcbowla 8,261]

I also think the Stevens belief has skewed a lot of people's perceptions of what a good hire would be. I get the impression many Stevens believers wouldn't be happy with a Drew, Beard, Otz, McDermott, you name him. That's because now nothing will hit that dopamine the same as a Brad hire.

[HoosierInParadise 1,659]

I also think the Stevens belief has skewed a lot of people's perceptions of what a good hire would be. I get the impression many Stevens believers wouldn't be happy with a Drew, Beard, Otz, McDermott, you name him. That's because now nothing will hit that dopamine the same as a Brad hire.

I would be excited for all those guys. You are right though, there would be a letdown for a day or two. Then people will get behind the new guy...

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

15 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Some people on this board do believe that, others don't. You should come to your own conclusion on if you believe it or not.

I believe

[HinnyHoosier 6,618]

21 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

So Rabby is consistently saying that there's no secret deal with a coach, there's no way its stevens, that he's completely ruled out. Trilly says he hasn't heard much but doesn't think its stevens and thinks its a current coach coaching..

Do we really believe we got stevens? 

Neither are as connected at IU as they want to be although one will try to tell you otherwise. Trilly he seems to hear a lot of stuff on the college front in general based on a broad array of sources and I find it odd he hasn't heard a single thing, were it to be a current college coach.

[Hornsby 3,870]

People criticizing posters for believing Stevens isn't a realistic candidate and saying it over and over. Same people keep saying they believe he's coming over and over. One has a big piece of evidence to suggest he's not and the other has hope. Believe what you want to believe. I think many that are adamant that he's not a candidate feel that way because a) he said so and b) because they don't want to exhaust themselves with hope only to be let down. So it's a lot easier on the ol' brain and heart to just contemplate candidates that haven't said that they aren't candidates.

Is it possible. Sure. But I don't think it's likely imo. Think it will be someone else.

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1 hour ago, Motley's said:

No one believes that he wanted to come but the family said no. That’s a fairy tale. I don’t doubt that the family didn’t want to move. That’s the only part that’s accurate. Tracy has been very openly supportive of him taking new challenges. If he really wanted it, she would have supported him. 

Hello, I am no one he said sheepishly 

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

4 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Neither are as connected at IU as they want to be although one will try to tell you otherwise. Trilly he seems to hear a lot of stuff on the college front in general based on a broad array of sources and I find it odd he hasn't heard a single thing, were it to be a current college coach.

Thats what makes the search the most interesting... when the Stevens rumors started he couldn't find one source. Said it was coming from the IU side, but couldn't corroborate anything with NBA guys, agents, etc. 

It feels eerily quiet. Like when we hired Archie it was very clearly 1 of 5 candidates. right now its not a peep. The Stevens denial left a sliver of hope. 

 

[Silat Player 1,965]

10 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Neither are as connected at IU as they want to be although one will try to tell you otherwise. Trilly he seems to hear a lot of stuff on the college front in general based on a broad array of sources and I find it odd he hasn't heard a single thing, were it to be a current college coach.

This to me is the most suspicious thing that might lean towards the possibility of Stevens. There should be some kind of noise out there about agents (or other reps of college coaches) being contacted by IU and prelim talks going on. I know they're lawyers and all, but it seems like this kind of stuff does get leaked. Friends of coaches, family of coaches, etc.. leaking this stuff.

There just hasn't been much info regarding college coaches being leaked. 

That being said, I'll say what I've said all along. I know I'm in the vast minority here, but I wouldn't be all that sad to not get Stevens. I know he's been super successful, but I'm not sure what you get from a guy who hasn't been in the college game for over a decade. 

I would also be a little bit worried about whether or not his heart would really be in it. He's turned IU down a couple of times already. After coaching in the pros and then being in the front office, would he really have the same hunger to do the day-to-day coaching activities with 18 or 19 year olds like he did when he was at the start of his career? 

It's a fair question at this point...

[TheWatShot 15,489]

6 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

That being said, I'll say what I've said all along. I know I'm in the vast minority here, but I wouldn't be all that sad to not get Stevens. I know he's been super successful, but I'm not sure what you get from a guy who hasn't been in the college game for over a decade. 

You get a guy with a proven track record who knows as much about the game as anyone and would absolutely kill it here with our resources and the support he would get. 

 

The college game more closely resembles the NBA now compared to a decade ago.