General Coach Candidate News

[rcbowla]

30 minutes ago, TheDMV said:

Discussing Celtics President and reigning NBA champion leaving for college program that’s been no good for decades = totally cool and fine. Discussing 2021 big ten champ = nonsense. 
 

got it. 

I mean..... he's got a point here

[AH1971]

6 minutes ago, HoosierHuddle said:

Trilly posted his hot board...I did not see it so I am relying on the information provided to be accurate. Likely all agents and other coaches speculating but for whatever it is worth, his list was as follows:

Tier One - Otzelberger/Drew

Tier Two - McCollum/Brownell/McDermott

 

 

6 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Reached out too or been turned down? May and Stevens aren't coming to IU. Neither is Pearl, neither is Oats, neither are a bunch of these other names being floated. And if we aren't going to go after Cronin and refuse to talk to guys like Wade/Beard, this is what your candidate list most likely appears as of today

Tier A

Drew/Otzelberger (don't see him leaving Ames)

Tier B

Brad Brownell

Tier C

McCollum/Byington

You're vastly overestimating the IU job and how it pertains to certain candidates. 

Hmm...I seem to have posted nearly an identical list several hours ago and got crucified for it. Let's see if Trilly loses his base and is called delusional. 

[JHoosier914]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He will always love the Celtics but he only wants to watch them for 9 more games

So, he may step away from the team sometime between Friday, March 21st and Sunday, March 23rd?

[RaceToTheTop]

58 minutes ago, TheDMV said:

In 14 total seasons at TAMU and Maryland, Turgeon’s only season with a team worse than this year’s IU team (pre Woodson Firing) in KenPom was his first year at Maryland, which was a total rebuild. So no, you’re just straight up BS’ing here.  
 

So basically went a decade and a half without being worse even once than this current doofus leading IU. And nevermind that he never has all the resources in the world to buy whatever players he wanted. 

In zero total seasons at IU, Turgeon went 0-0.  That string continues next year.

[moyemayhem]

1 minute ago, Ctf9 said:

I remain hopeful for Otz or Lloyd, but I will admit that sometimes I worry Dolson has a soft spot for older, “experienced” candidates because he tried to hire Matta and, far worse, Pat Fitzgerald.
 

Does this concern any other fans? Like we all say “trust the guy who brought us Cig” but if he hadn’t been overruled by Whitten he would have brought us Fitzgerald, right? It’s weird that everyone just pretends that didn’t (almost) happen  

 

I love Cig and he was a great hire... but Fitzgerald was also a proven coach, and hiring him would have been a real sign that we were serious about trying to turn the football program around.  Trying to hire Fitzgerald is not a blot on Dolson's record to me, but rather it's proof that he's serious about finding winners.

[Silat Player]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

 

Hmm...I seem to have posted nearly an identical list several hours ago and got crucified for it. Let's see if Trilly loses his base and is called delusional. 

No one would quibble with Otz/Drew on a tier 1 list of coaches. I certainly wouldn't.

I think A LOT of people would have an issue with having Brownell listed that high (alone on the next tier) - especially over any and all other candidates. 

[RaceToTheTop]

37 minutes ago, TheDMV said:

Discussing Celtics President and reigning NBA champion leaving for college program that’s been no good for decades = totally cool and fine. Discussing 2021 big ten champ = nonsense. 
 

got it. 

Now that you got it, go to the Turgeon thread and post away.

[Stuhoo]

58 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

 

Hmm...I seem to have 1) posted nearly an identical list several hours ago and

2) got crucified for it. Let's see if Trilly loses his base and is called delusional. 

 

1) Yes, you did.

2) No, you did not. Not even a little. People pushed back at your attitude, but no one pushed back at your list of Drew, Otz, Brownell, McCollum, Byington.

Why would they? Almost everyone would be really excited about Drew or Otz, and there is significant support on this board for McCollum or Byington.

 

[AH1971]

6 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

No one would quibble with Otz/Drew on a tier 1 list of coaches. I certainly wouldn't.

I think A LOT of people would have an issue with having Brownell listed that high (alone on the next tier) - especially over any and all other candidates. 

No doubt, but in a world where Scott Drew (and more importantly his wife) don't want to uproot their lives and everything they've built in Waco coupled with Otzelberger being perfectly content Ames, Brad Brownell becomes a much more realistic candidate than 95% of people on this board want to believe. All that I was alluding too this morning. I definitely see a scenario where Scott Drew and TJ Otzelberger pass on the IU job, in fact, in wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[HoosierHoopster]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

1) Yes, you did.

2) No, you did not. Not even a little. People pushed back at your attitude, but no one pushed back at your list of Drew, Otz, Brownell, McCollum, Byington.

Why would they? Almost everyone would be really excited about Drew or Otz, and their is significant support on this board for McCollum or Byington.

 

But not Brownell - he would be a major disappointment imo

[Chris007]

9 minutes ago, JHoosier914 said:

So, he may step away from the team sometime between Friday, March 21st and Sunday, March 23rd?

Just guessing of course

[HoosierHuddle]

11 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

 

Hmm...I seem to have posted nearly an identical list several hours ago and got crucified for it. Let's see if Trilly loses his base and is called delusional. 

You posted Otzelberger and qualified it with an opinion (very possibly a correct one!) that he very likely would not leave Ames, you left off McCollum and McDermott and placed Brownell on the second tier by himself and then took a shot at IU fans for vastly overvaluing the job. I don't think the two things are "nearly identical" but alrighty. Still, I'm sure some on his Discord are calling him an idiot and continuing to tell him that it's Brad Stevens and he's a fool for not believing it or that Scott Drew's friend from 30 years ago told them Scott Drew was definitely never leaving Waco...I'm just guessing he did not get a whole lot of "wow, this is really encouraging and I love this list" positive feedback on the internet because that's generally not how it works, unfortunately.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

No doubt, but in a world where Scott Drew (and more importantly his wife) don't want to uproot their lives and everything they've built in Waco coupled with Otzelberger being perfectly content Ames, Brad Brownell becomes a much more realistic candidate than 95% of people on this board want to believe. All that I was alluding too this morning. I definitely see a scenario where Scott Drew and TJ Otzelberger pass on the IU job, in fact, in wouldn't surprise me in the least.

I kinda think you are underestimating the chances of Drew and Otzelberger.

Which would be great news for IU.

Brownell is realistic only because he would 100% accept the offer.

[Hoosierfan2017]

A Mike Woodson hire followed by a Brad Brownell hire would be a harder one-two punch to the gut than anything Muhammad Ali could ever dream of landing. 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, HoosierHuddle said:

You posted Otzelberger and qualified it with an opinion (very possibly a correct one!) that he very likely would not leave Ames, you left off McCollum and McDermott and placed Brownell on the second tier by himself and then took a shot at IU fans for vastly overvaluing the job. I don't think the two things are "nearly identical" but alrighty. Still, I'm sure some on his Discord are calling him an idiot and continuing to tell him that it's Brad Stevens and he's a fool for not believing it or that Scott Drew's friend from 30 years ago told them Scott Drew was definitely never leaving Waco...I'm just guessing he did not get a whole lot of "wow, this is really encouraging and I love this list" positive feedback on the internet because that's generally not how it works, unfortunately.

I put Brownell in a tier above McCollum and Byington because Brownell is at least an older and experienced coach. The other two are younger and it's not exactly a secret that Dolson prefers older, experienced coaches. 

[Silat Player]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

No doubt, but in a world where Scott Drew (and more importantly his wife) don't want to uproot their lives and everything they've built in Waco coupled with Otzelberger being perfectly content Ames, Brad Brownell becomes a much more realistic candidate than 95% of people on this board want to believe. All that I was alluding too this morning. I definitely see a scenario where Scott Drew and TJ Otzelberger pass on the IU job, in fact, in wouldn't surprise me in the least.

It wouldn't surprise ANYONE in the least if Otz or Drew passed on the IU job (if they were actually offered). Both have non-basketball-related reasons that could keep them in their current conditions. 

Drew passed on the Kentucky job last year.He loves being at a Christian college. Of course he might pass on IU, as Kentucky has been a much better job over the past 25 years (at least) than the IU job.

And Otz's wife played at Iowa State, so who knows if he will ever leave Ames? 

[Artie86]

22 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Just guessing of course

Theroretically speaking,.....in the grand scheme of things, when would it be in Stevens best interest to make it known that he is accepting the IU job? Or, does he just wait it out, like any other potential coach would, till the final buzzer sounds and IU is finally eliminated?

I mean, if he does actually take it, he needs to figure out who he wants to keep and go out and get. You would think some of this would factor in. I don't know.

[JustWinBaby]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

A Mike Woodson hire followed by a Brad Brownell hire would be a harder one-two punch to the gut than anything Muhammad Ali could ever dream of landing. 

Don’t forget we also hired Archie right before Woodson.

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I kinda think you are underestimating the chances of Drew and Otzelberger.

Which would be great news for IU.

Brownell is realistic only because he would 100% accept the offer.

I think Drew has a much better chance than Otzelberger although Drew just turned down Louisville and Kentucky last year. I do think Baylor struggling this year may signal that Drew has achieved all that he can at Baylor but if his wife is as ardent as some say she is, she may be running the show. 

Honestly wouldn't be shocked to see Drew coach another year or two at Baylor and retire. Not like he couldn't if he wanted too.

[Chris007]

Just now, Artie86 said:

.....serious question Chris. Theroretically speaking,.....in the grand scheme of things, when would it be in Stevens best interest to make it known that he is accepting the IU job? Or, does he just wait it out, like any other potential coach would, till the final buzzer sounds and IU is finally eliminated?

I mean, if he does actually take it, he needs to figure out who he wants to keep and go out and get. You would think some of this would factor in. I don't know.

Whenever IU is done playing. Before the portal opens on March 24