General Coach Candidate News

[Stuhoo]

25 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Saying he is not an innovator seems inconsistent with your earlier comment about being a great coach.  

Everyone isn’t an innovator. Who are the true innovators in the past 50 years? Bob Knight, Paul Westhead for sure, maybe Boeheim or Pitino for their hyper-aggressive zones. Not many.

Bucky McMillan is maybe the most innovative that I’ve seen mentioned in this thread.

I said Gates is a really good coach… and a GREAT motivator and recruiter. That’s enough to go a really long way at a place like IU.

[hoosierbannerd]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Are you saying that Cory is coming? /s

No idea..with Dickinson gone next year he probably increases his court time at Kansas and he strikes me as a kid who values loyalty; but maybe IU offers a nice NIL deal and he wants to be closer to his host family-who are IU fans. I'll keep the board posted if there is any potential movement...

[akumanina]

3 hours ago, HoosierInParadise said:

I don't disagree. Plus, I don't think IU would protect him like Kansas has done from a compliance standpoint, and he knows that.

Are there any more compliance issue we need to worry about these days? High major D1 colleges now pay more than G league. But I don't mean I want Self at IU. In NIL era, IU is a MAJOR player, which has made the IU gig whole lot more attractive.

[P92]

I really think it would be imperative for SD to keep the new coach’s name under wraps until the season is over. If we’re getting beat and the students start chanting the next coach’s name like the kids at the hickory huskers pep rally chanting “We want Jimmy,” it would be a royally bad look. If on the off-chance SD already has signed someone, it well may be possible to hold the info until IU looses in the B1G, if the people around you are trustworthy and buy into the vision.

[steubenhoosier]

20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Everyone isn’t an innovator. Who are the true innovators in the past 50 years? Bob Knight, Paul Westhead for sure, maybe Boeheim or Pitino for their hyper-aggressive zones. Not many.

Bucky McMillan is maybe the most innovative that I’ve seen mentioned in this thread.

I said Gates is a really good coach… and a GREAT motivator and recruiter. That’s enough to go a really long way at a place like IU.

I would add 40 minutes of hell as an innovation to the college game. Nolan Richardson was the damn good architect for pressure defense 

[akumanina]

44 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Nate Oats is really trying to remove himself from our list of desired candidates tonight isnt he 

On the other hand, has Rick Pitino been trying extra hard to be in contention?

[HinnyHoosier]

2 hours ago, 8bucks said:

I would like to believe but it seems the day (2 weeks, Mar 1st then end of BTT) we will know keeps sliding back. Would love to have been on the AAU call or to know that we indeed scheduled games because we have our guy. But the changing date.

Unless Dolson knows for sure Stevens is coming I start ramping up my efforts for May. Can’t let second choice get away. Especially since I have May right there with Stevens. 

I don't think the changing date indicates anything negative. The timing for both sides would be key so there's no reason they couldn't have adjusted the timeline of things more than once.

All hypothetical, of course.

[HinnyHoosier]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://x.com/tatefrazier/status/1892387818669797507?s=46
 

lol 

Turgeon smokescreen, obviously.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I like flory but hes an undersized center height wise at 6’9

 

great shot blocker tho

6’9” shot blocking centers are the new college seven footers.

[HinnyHoosier]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

It’s Gates. He’s not an innovator; he’s a very smart motivator that players would run through a brick wall for.

As proven by the Mizzou players during his post game interview just now.

The hush pose they all gave was great!

[Atombaum]

If only we kept Crean! I don't care what you say. He was the guy who developed players and was a system guy.  He needed more years.  Tell me we would not be in a way better spot if he was still here! Tell me! We had our guy. 

https://youtu.be/T1TQGk9mwPM?si=KWjlM1_qEHjoe0K0

Edited February 20 by Atombaum

[JPCIVOP]

51 minutes ago, Atombaum said:

If only we kept Crean! I don't care what you say. He was the guy who developed players and was a system guy.  He needed more years.  Tell me we would not be in a way better spot if he was still here! Tell me! We had our guy. 

https://youtu.be/T1TQGk9mwPM?si=KWjlM1_qEHjoe0K0

Watched that game in person; it didn't get better than that. Even his Big Ten Championship was that team hanging on for dear life to the end. Just ran out of steam. Unfortunately, he ran his course. 

[PartyintheVillas]

2 hours ago, Atombaum said:

If only we kept Crean! I don't care what you say. He was the guy who developed players and was a system guy.  He needed more years.  Tell me we would not be in a way better spot if he was still here! Tell me! We had our guy. 

https://youtu.be/T1TQGk9mwPM?si=KWjlM1_qEHjoe0K0

I think Tom Crean needed to be fired, but I think he needed to be fired for himself in addition to Indiana. I think he's learned and grown a lot and I wish someone would give him a shot somewhere. He'll always still be Tom Crean and almost all that entails, but I think especially his Indiana experience was very emotional. Very low, lows and very high, highs. His time here wore on everyone including himself.

[JustWinBaby]

3 hours ago, Atombaum said:

If only we kept Crean! I don't care what you say. He was the guy who developed players and was a system guy.  He needed more years.  Tell me we would not be in a way better spot if he was still here! Tell me! We had our guy. 

https://youtu.be/T1TQGk9mwPM?si=KWjlM1_qEHjoe0K0

The Crean years were marked by high peaks and really low valleys. 2008-2011 can't fairly be blamed on him entirely, but 2011-13 and 2015-16 were great while every other season was a disaster. The inconsistency on the court was a symptom of the recruiting failures that began to plague the program after 2013. Crean burned a lot of bridges in Indiana at the HS level and AAU circuit. Coaches didn't want to send their players to IU while he was there.

If he had been able to maintain those relationships and keep Kentucky, Michigan State, etc., from coming into town and taking our best players every year, things might've ended differently (or never ended at all).

Crean's a good guy. And I think at this stage of life he's had more time for self-reflection and personal growth, and I think he's in a healthy spot. He definitely took his firing hard and never really recovered while coaching. It made me happy to see him call a game with John Fanta the other day, and I hope they team up to call many more. That was fun.

But none of that makes me want him back as the coach.

Thanks for linking the vid, definitely gonna watch that back. That was such an incredible game.

[Chris007]

8 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

Thank you. But that’s not what we were told here. We were told it was confirmed to have happened.

It was confirmed with IE. They were asked not to talk about it.

[SlammySammy]

8 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Everyone isn’t an innovator. Who are the true innovators in the past 50 years? Bob Knight, Paul Westhead for sure, maybe Boeheim or Pitino for their hyper-aggressive zones. Not many.

Bucky McMillan is maybe the most innovative that I’ve seen mentioned in this thread.

I said Gates is a really good coach… and a GREAT motivator and recruiter. That’s enough to go a really long way at a place like IU.

Come on....flavor of the month again....some coach nobody was discussing because he should NOT be on the list, beats a top ranked team and all of the sudden hes on the list? Come on....this usually happens during the tournament....Gates is NOT IU bound.

[Stuhoo]

42 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Come on....flavor of the month again....some coach nobody was discussing because he should NOT be on the list, beats a top ranked team and all of the sudden hes on the list? Come on....this usually happens during the tournament....Gates is NOT IU bound.

Flavor of the month? Even with that terrible year last year he’s at 56% wins in the SEC. And that Missouri team was a bottom feeder before him. This year they’re #15?nationally and 9-4 in the SEC. Did the same at Cleveland St. 

And as Hamilton’s top assistant and lead recruiter at FSU? Here’s a graphic of Gates’ last five seasons at FSU, followed by the five seasons that followed:

Gates is young, but he’s been a chosen one for a very long time.

[68Hoosier]

12 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

BRAD ******* STEVENS

 

You should get that trademarked @68Hoosier Lol

Tis a joke before anyone takes this sh!tpost seriously…

If I was smart, I would have gotten the rights on a web page and a trademark.  They would be knocking down the doors to get rights in two weeks.

 

[Motley's]

I wouldn’t be surprised if SD had communication with one or more individuals affiliated with AAU to get feedback on what went wrong with current and previous coaches and to get opinions on what they’d like in a new coach. There is zero chance that they were told that there is an agreement with anyone. No way SD would trust them with that info to not be leaked.

[Hoosier Guy]

11 hours ago, 8bucks said:

I would like to believe but it seems the day (2 weeks, Mar 1st then end of BTT) we will know keeps sliding back. Would love to have been on the AAU call or to know that we indeed scheduled games because we have our guy. But the changing date.

Unless Dolson knows for sure Stevens is coming I start ramping up my efforts for May. Can’t let second choice get away. Especially since I have May right there with Stevens. 

I can understand the skepticism.  Though, Jerry has said after the B1G tournament the entire time.  He hasn’t changed that stance one bit.  I definitely believe him about being told to quiet down.  As always, time will tell.  I’m still rolling with Stevens as the next coach.