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1 hour ago, realTomCrean said:

2x B1G Championships in 4 years, 3x S16 in 5 years. Yogi, OG, JBJ, Robert Johnson, Troy Williams, Hartman, Ziesloft, Beifeldt, Bryant, Vonleh, Hulls, Oladipo, Watford, Zeller, Elston, Roth. There's the resume, send the check - See you in the sand pit this summer! 

300 page playbook but couldn’t beat a 2-3 zone with 6 1000 point scorers. Did less with more until Woody came along. 2 hour pre game walk thrus at the end of seasons that destroyed the players. Confirmed his true coaching chops at UGA. Ole Tommy Naismith sure does know basketball.

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I'm told his daughter is more likely to go to Notre Dame than come to IU. But she is ok living in Indiana. 

We hired a pretty meh women's soccer coach here whereas ND has a very strong looking program.  I could understand that

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23 minutes ago, Five Prime said:

Can we have a Coaching Candidate discussion thread and a separate Coaching Candidate news thread?  Like links to credible sources and such only

RE: News Thread - We do but its buried about 5 pages deep on this board and hasn't even reached the 2nd page yet because there really is no credible news out there.

 

 

 

(just kidding for those who might actually go looking for this fictional thread)

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I could get used to Drew but the church stuff loses me quickly. Cronin is OK, I think he would win but just not my cup of tea. 

Didn't Crean have some of that? And I recall Cliff Marshall on Twitter (pre-X days) with some of it too... curious if that became an issue around the program...

With that said, from what I've seen of Drew, he seems to be more vocal with it... not in a "preachy" way, but talking about it a good amount..

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Just now, SlammySammy said:

Not the sexiest press conference choice but we could do a lot worse

As someone who lives in LA... He is going to wear out his welcome really really fast if he does not win...

 

Those PC look a whole lot different when UCLA is floundering 

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2 hours ago, IUrocker said:

I actually feel better about getting May after just 1 year at Michigan rather than him being there longer and establishing roots. His bags still aren’t fully unpacked yet. It’s as easy as he appreciates the opportunity Michigan gave him, he turned them around, but he got an offer he can’t refuse to coach at home. I think the only way Dusty signs an extension with UM is if it’s because Dolson isn’t trying to get him.

I don't think an extension at Michigan would make much difference. Even with an increased buyout. Unless it's an astronomical number, if May is ho Dolson zeroes in on that's who we'll get.

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Given IU NIL for men’s basketball Cronin and others will compete 3rd or fourth to top half of big ten.  With coach salary, NIL, facilities, and fans in a basketball state IU should have one of the highest winning standards for basketball hire.  Everything else is boring…..and just give a bunch of that NIL money to T. Moren and IU Ladies basketball program.

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27 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I so very much disagree.

And fwiw, May, had five years and a Final Four as a D1 head coach,  Kelsey had 12 years as a D1 head coach, and Pope had nine years as a D1 head coach when they were first hired for Power 5 jobs.

OK, you're right and I'm so absolutely wrong.

I guess the only option is to lure highly successful, extremely well payed old men away from established Power 5 programs

I know we can because we're Indiana, but if they all say no then what,shut the program down? No bright young minds allowed.

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21 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

But it does seem like a recipe for disaster if you ask me.  He’s a solid enough coach.  Maybe a great coach. But he’s borderline losing his mind over the past 2 seasons and I don’t think coaching at Indiana will fix his problems.  

It could work out as a disaster. When you say borderline losing his mind over the past 2 seasons, not sure if you're referring to something specific or the general reported unhappiness in LA and being snippy with people?

In LA, there are so many other things to do... I think he'd welcome an environment that appreciates and celebrates good basketball. Don't think UCLA fits that bill so much. I actually think that's where it could be a good fit here. That guy wants to win and he does a lot of it. He wants to win probably worse than any fans do. Definitely more than our current head coach.

I think fans would come to appreciate his fire, even if it comes off curmudgeon-y at times. Fresh start with a new fan base, I think he'd win people over by being an old school basketball coach type. They're not always going to use kind words to make people feel warm and fuzzy. I think Cronin was justified in calling out fans yesterday. Totally different situation from us this year. 

It was complete BS for Woody to blame fans for his failures, but fans are not above being called out when it's warranted. IU fans have very high expectations that don't align with the reality of CBB IMO. Still, we only started booing when the team was getting blown out. IMO Assembly Hall would not be booing a team trying to fend off a comeback for a win. If they did, they should be called out. 

20 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

But it does seem like a recipe for disaster if you ask me.  He’s a solid enough coach.  Maybe a great coach. But he’s borderline losing his mind over the past 2 seasons and I don’t think coaching at Indiana will fix his problems.  

I get not being excited about him personality wise. But it's true he's been way better than IU has in recent history. That's not the bar for success, but making the tournament every year is a pretty good floor. Not the best coach we've talked about but the kind of guy who can give you a shot. People won't find a coach that's regularly making the S16 every single year and also willing to come here right now IMO. Think there is a tendency to way overestimate the amount of coaches who fit that billing of success. Deep runs in March are special. Largely because they usually happen pretty infrequently for almost every program except UConn, Duke, Nova semi-recently. Unless you have a truly elite coach, every guy is going to have some stank on him. Just gotta find a stank you can tolerate and ride with em.

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