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My 2 cents re: Beard, and I don’t mean to get religious so if this needs to be deleted due to site rules, I understand:

the only way a man can truly change, IMHO, is through the Lord.  Obviously, the Bible preaches second chances, as that is essentially what being saved by grace is.  And while we may not have all been the perpetrator in a DV situation, sin is sin and we all are guilty of that.

IF, (and that’s a big if) Beard has repented, truly repented and working towards saintification, and the school/admins believe that to also be true after vetting him/the situation, who I am to judge.  I am not sinless and cannot cast the first stone, as the Good Book says.

Do I believe the above to be true? No.  But could it? Sure.

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1 hour ago, steubenhoosier said:

Completely understand. As I said, his hiring would be divisive.

 I have a wife, daughters, granddaughters and soon a great-granddaughter. I get it. I also try to put myself in other’s shoes. 
 

I bet most everyone has something in their past that they don’t want to be made public.

Faith can be the foundation for change. Hoping Chris can embrace that whether he comes to Bloomington or not 

I agree we often judge but aren’t THE Judge.  I’m rooting for him too and hope that was just an isolated, idiotic incident and he bettered himself because of it.  

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5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Why wouldn’t they be around him drunk at Nick’s or another establishment? He’s still known to go out in public and drink at bars in Oxford. 

Much like Steuben, I believe Beard would fly as straight as humanly possible if hired. I think that's how much he wants this job. Besides, I dont care if he's in a bar drinking or not. If he truly is out in Oxford getting drunk and still turning Ole Miss, of all places, into a top 25 basketball team, more power to him

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Ladies and gentlemen let's please drop the convo re:  Beard's off-court personal issues.  They've been hashed, re-hashed, ad nauseum.  Some people are willing to overlook those issues.  Some are not.  Seems pretty clear to me that minds are made up and further discussion isn't going to change those minds.  Discussion regarding his coaching, team's performance and recruiting abilities are absolutely OK.  

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12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Beard’s no riskier than a lot of the other names being thrown out. His risks are just different. I’d feel more comfortable with that risk than the other because the off court stuff is entirely within his control. You could do everything right basketball wise but still not get the results IU wants. Beard is as good a bet at getting those results as any coach out there. 

The risks are bigger.  Hire him and every media piece will mention how IU got comfortable with his DV issues.  Fair or unfair IU will be associated with DV which is bad for our brand/image.  Some donors and fans will be upset, so we have division there.  If he has a repeat issue, and he continues to drink which doesn’t help, Scott is 100% fired and maybe Pam too.  No other coach brings these risks.

It’s hard to see how this could work.  If he had quit drinking and shown how he changed and called Pam/Scott to explain how different he is and how nothing will go wrong… maybe.  I see no signs of that, UK, UM, and UL didn’t look at him.

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3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Beef with the administration if I’m remembering right 

And leaving Va Tech for A&M&M?

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My thoughts on the last gazillion pages that was hard to catch up on: 

1.  I am staying in the hopeful camp with Stevens.  Like others have said a lot of things do not make sense. And the statement and sources thing from Goodman does not convince me of anything.  Strange things happen in these things and I will going to hold off on making any declarations about this until we let things play out.  

2.  If Stevens ends up being a No, then I sure hope we back up the brinks truck and anything else needed to bring Dusty May home to Bloomington.  

3.  Even if we do not get one of those top 2 guys there are still several good options available to Indiana and we can still come out of this search with a really good coach and be way better off than with Woody. 

4.  I love a lot of things about Beard.  But as the father of 4 daughters and a high school girls basketball coach I just cannot support him from the things we know.  If he is selected, I will give him and Dolson the benefit of the doubt and look for a changed person, but hopefully we do not have to go down that road.  

5.  Brad Brownell?  No thanks.  If we end up with him then things have gone way off the tracks and we are in a real mess.  

6.  I appreciate the insiders around here who share their knowledge.  Coaching searches are a highlight of this place. 

7.  I will end this Tad Talk with a question for all of you:  Is Scotty R an @$$ in real life or does he just play one on message boards??? 

 

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6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Breaking Bad is Stevens favorite tv show. An IU grad produced it. Dolson had him set up the set and met Brad there to say let’s team up to win a championship.

That's a Blake move right there...

 

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4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Beef with the administration if I’m remembering right 

Yes with AD and also mentioned about staying too long at one place as a head coach. He thought it was time for a fresh start!

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28 minutes ago, Herotime said:

1. SD has been courting BS for over a year

2. SD and BS recently travelled to New Mexico together to visit the set of a tv show 

3. They are closer than most recognize

4. 10 days ago talk began to heat up as we announced CMW’s imminent departure 

5. Insiders claim SD has his man lined up 

6. Throughout the week more and more chatter builds to the point that even skeptics, naysayers, and casual fans start to take note

7. More insiders arrive with corroborating information that continues to confirm that there is smoke coming from BS direction

8. the consensus is no announcement will be made before early to mid-March; the end of our season.

9. A few poster hint that it could be post All Star break at the earliest 

10. things reach a fever pitch yesterday.

11. Negotiations go back and forth with IU agreeing to meet BS stipulations 

12. Every insider chimes in, indicating we have our man. BS to IU is imminent 

13. Our insiders run in different circles and hear from different sources— some from the Athletic Dept, some from boosters, some from board members 

14. BUT early afternoon BS is no longer a candidate???

If BS wasn’t interested, why meet?

If BS wasn’t interested why negotiate?

If BS had two weeks why yesterday?

If BS was a ‘no’ couldn’t he have been more definitive in his denial?

I said yesterday that if BS signed, they have to announce quickly to protect the narrative. The only alternative is KAYFABE— to make things appear different than they actually are. WHY? We have a coach. It could be a humiliating distraction for him and the team. ALSO, BS and the All Star break is happening now. Would he want to make the weekend about him? Not likely.

in my view the evidence is clear. Until we hire someone else; or BS says ‘I will not coach at IU last year,’ I will choose to BELIEVE he’s still in play.

That is all a great fictional narrative. Look at the Zagoria report about Byington. He got publicly humiliated by Cig for making up a story. None of the Stevens to IU stuff was ever true. 

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2 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

I can't hardly keep up with you guys. Serious question, do you guys have nothing else to do with your time, but post on here? I'm retired and still can't find the time to read every post, much less post much. 

I have a retired guy that drives truck for us and he says he is busier now then when he worked full time! Lol

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