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[Uspshoosier 50,704]

7 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

. We’re not getting Brad Stevens so why not get this guy? Dude can coach

Because this same AD had a chance to hiring him last cycle before this last incident and he wasn’t on the his hot board according to insiders.   If it was reported last cycle he had  too many skeletons in his closet for IU to hire him I don’t think 4 more years and him getting fired from Texas is going to make IU change their stance from last cycle.   Sec schools have been known to hire coaches with baggage. And you are absolutely correct he is for sure a top 5 coach for on the court results 

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For those concerned about McCollum and his rumored 'Tony Bennett style' deliberate play, I found these stats doing a little research.  I didn't look up every one of his teams, but I did capture his first championship year ('16-'17), the 31-1 Covid season ('19-'20) and the last of his 4 championship years ('21-'22).

• The '16-'17 team averaged 78.4 points per game
• The '19-'20 team averaged 83.1 points per game
• The '21-'22 team averaged 76.1 points per game

While those may not be vintage Loyola Marymount scoring averages, they certainly aren't vintage Tony Bennett either.  What they show to me is that he has the ability to adapt to the personnel he has.  This year's Drake team may be more deliberate, but that is likely McCollum changing his preferred style in order to win games (which is what he should do).

The tempo argument is a shaky one, at best.  If anything, it strengthens his resume.  The man wins, and has the ability to change his style in order to do so.

 https://bearcatsports.com/sports/2014/4/29/mbbstatsarchive.aspx

 

 

Edited February 10 by 5fouls

[schoosier 3,630]

9 hours ago, bodsbums said:

Getting hammered at a bar when you are one of the highest profile people not to mention best paid state employees is a problem. I suppose you can disagree that this is problem drinking but personally  I don’t want IU’s basketball coach intoxicated in public. 

Do you have proof in photos? Pretty damning accusations like these must have photos to back up. It’s not like the 80’s when cell phones weren’t around, and we all had Jay Edwards stories.

[Demo 21,848]

7 hours ago, bodsbums said:

Check out his record before that at West Liberty. Crutch can coach- a former player of his is a good friend of mine. I know you weren’t seriously suggesting him as a candidate, but Hoosier fans would hate him-

line change subs. He’s also pushing 70. 

Now, see, the fact that someone can provide backstory on a D-2 HC I’d only vaguely heard of is why I will never leave. Out freaking standing.

[Chris007 55,332]

16 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Do you have proof in photos? Pretty damning accusations like these must have photos to back up. It’s not like the 80’s when cell phones weren’t around, and we all had Jay Edwards stories.

Do we really need photos? There are stories from every school he's been at. Dolson passed on him last time and I think he'll do the same this time. 

[MrBBall 565]

18 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Do you have proof in photos? Pretty damning accusations like these must have photos to back up. It’s not like the 80’s when cell phones weren’t around, and we all had Jay Edwards stories.

There weren’t photos of Wilson either but simply as a few policemen around how they had to handle Wilson throughout the years. Plus around town we all knew about his issues. 

[68Hoosier 1,057]

I am confused a bit.  Did Dolson pass on Beard last time or did the BOT tell him to hire Woodson.  If he had to choose Woodson, did he really pass on anyone.

[coonhounds 10,103]

Stevens or bust! You guys can't agree on anything. Steven's only has a couple folks on here who say he will suck cause he hasn't coached in a bit. We need to get a big name that most the fans can get behind! .

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[Pagoda 2,775]

50 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Do you have proof in photos? Pretty damning accusations like these must have photos to back up. It’s not like the 80’s when cell phones weren’t around, and we all had Jay Edwards stories.

This is what another poster (Eyedoc) linked to.  It’s an example.

https://x.com/lubbockist/status/1488482798377779203?s=46&t=zoBJGD5TXRBDk1ODyOZqlg
 

I’ve already posted about him, not much left to argue about.

[IUHoosierJoe 1,817]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Do we really need photos? There are stories from every school he's been at. Dolson passed on him last time and I think he'll do the same this time. 

Do you know if Dolson passed on him or if Beard said no?  I’ve heard both and just curious what you know.

[Artie86 2,846]

29 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Do you have proof in photos? Pretty damning accusations like these must have photos to back up. It’s not like the 80’s when cell phones weren’t around, and we all had Jay Edwards stories.

....lol! I was at IU during Jay Ewards and Lyndon Jones years. My buddy from Marion was best friends with them. They both were always at parties, drinking and blazin' up....lol

[Chris007 55,332]

Just now, IUHoosierJoe said:

Do you know if Dolson passed on him or if Beard said no?  I’ve heard both and just curious what you know.

I was told after looking at all the evidence they had, he was a no-go. Like a folder full of stuff on him.

[Stuhoo 85,601]

53 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

For those concerned about McCollum and his rumored 'Tony Bennett style' deliberate play, I found these stats doing a little research.  I didn't look up every one of his teams, but I did capture his first championship year ('16-'17), the 31-1 Covid season ('19-'20) and the last of his 4 championship years ('21-'22).

• The '16-'17 team averaged 78.4 points per game
• The '19-'20 team averaged 83.1 points per game
• The '21-'22 team averaged 76.1 points per game

While those may not be vintage Loyola Marymount scoring averages, they certainly aren't vintage Tony Bennett either.  What they show to me is that he has the ability to adapt to the personnel he has.  This year's Drake team may be more deliberate, but that is likely McCollum changing his preferred style in order to win games (which is what he should do).

The tempo argument is a shaky one, at best.  If anything, it strengthens his resume.  The man wins, and has the ability to change his style in order to do so.

 https://bearcatsports.com/sports/2014/4/29/mbbstatsarchive.aspx

 

 

You are gonna die on McCollum hill my friend!  :)

Address my concern - I don't give a rat's @$$ about style of play because if he's the real deal he will adjust his style of play immediately if and as warranted.

This is a guy that is/has

• never been associated with any P5 program at any time,
• has only been in any way associated with a D1 program for 23 games,
• has never played against a ranked team,
• has never beaten a team in the NET top 40,
• is at a program with almost zero NIL (that's why he needed to bring a bunch of D2 players in), 
• is coaching at a school with no football
• has never dealt with major boosters, agents, or media attention
• has never managed a large staff or organization

So let's agree that he is an outstanding on-court technician and off-court culture-setter and motivator. Can't we also agree that Indiana will have innumerable choices of similarly talented on-court technicians, albeit ones with on-court success against the best teams in the nation, and ones who have success in addressing every single bullet point I listed?

[Tasmanian Devil 1,819]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I was told after looking at all the evidence they had, he was a no-go. Like a folder full of stuff on him.

Without question, Beard is a good coach.

In a situation like this, though, you MUST get the guy who is a good FIT. Bringing him in would equate to putting a square peg in a round hole.

[HinnyHoosier 5,813]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I was told after looking at all the evidence they had, he was a no-go. Like a folder full of stuff on him.

It seems pretty simple, considering all the debate about him.

If that folder is any thicker 4 years later, it's an easy 'No' from administration.

[Tasmanian Devil 1,819]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

You are gonna die on McCollum hill my friend!  :)

Address my concern - I don't give a rat's @$$ about style of play because if he's the real deal he will adjust his style of play immediately if and as warranted.

This is a guy that is/has

• never been associated with any P5 program at any time,
• has only been in any way associated with a D1 program for 23 games,
• has never played against a ranked team,
• has never beaten a team in the NET top 40,
• is at a program with almost zero NIL (that's why he needed to bring a bunch of D2 players in, 
• coaching at a school with no football
• has never dealt with major boosters, agents, or media attention
• has never managed a large staff or organization

So let's agree that he is an outstanding on-court technician and off-court culture-setter and motivator. Can't we also agree that Indiana will have innumerable choices of similarly talented on-court technicians, albeit ones with on-court success against the best teams in the nation, and ones who have success in addressing every single bullet point I listed?

Same reply as with Beard

[Home Jersey 12,299]

Just now, HinnyHoosier said:

It seems pretty simple, considering all the debate about him.

If that folder is any thicker 4 years later, it's an easy 'No' from administration.

Yep. And the Texas issue took place during those 4 years. People won’t like hearing it but if he is not chosen, it’s not because IU is holier than thou. It’s because the guy ruined opportunities for himself by having a problem with drinking and getting violent. Look people have vices and can perform at a high level consistently but those people are outliers. In many cases they are ticking time bombs between incidents. People make mistakes and yes believing in second chances is good, that doesn’t mean he gets this particular chance. He’s blown that for himself (in all likelihood). Shame because if there weren’t such bad skeletons in the closet he’d be the obvious hire. 

[iu eyedoc 3,341]

58 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Do you have proof in photos? Pretty damning accusations like these must have photos to back up. It’s not like the 80’s when cell phones weren’t around, and we all had Jay Edwards stories.

 

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[HinnyHoosier 5,813]

9 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Yep. And the Texas issue took place during those 4 years. People won’t like hearing it but if he is not chosen, it’s not because IU is holier than thou. It’s because the guy ruined opportunities for himself by having a problem with drinking and getting violent. Look people have vices and can perform at a high level consistently but those people are outliers. In many cases they are ticking time bombs between incidents. People make mistakes and yes believing in second chances is good, that doesn’t mean he gets this particular chance. He’s blown that for himself (in all likelihood). Shame because if there weren’t such bad skeletons in the closet he’d be the obvious hire. 

Agreed. A ticking time bomb, whether it explodes or not, is not a gamble this program will take when 3 of the last 4 hires have been massive failures either on or off the court.

[Stuhoo 85,601]

https://www.instagram.com/bigtennetwork/reel/DF2swHJO0kw/

Okay - this video is awesome and really telling.

You guys tired of "Coach Grandpa?"

There are only three coaches in this reel who suggested a halftime show that isn't hopelessly dated:

1. The brutal and brutally honest Mick Cronin, who couldn't give a ****
2. Danny Sprinkle, who got it down to a 31 year old country singer who has used racial slurs
3. And the pride of Greene County Dusty May, who flat out nailed it with neo-hip-hop soul youngster Rod Wave. I love an older guy who remains inquisitive and finds excellent new things in this world - there are so many!

PS; props to Woody for sticking with his Gap Band Grandpa soul roots lol