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[IU Prof 2,327]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Dolson had chance 4 years ago to hire Beard with his connections to Knight and it didn’t happen.   When posters were ticked he wasn’t showing up on hot boards insiders said at the time he had too many skeletons in the closest to ever be hired by certain programs and IU was one of those programs.    Beard doesn’t get hired and ends up getting hired by Texas where he proceeds to have an incident and they fire him.  IU passed on him before this last incident.   Fast forward to this year and IU insiders actually put him high on a hot board however continue to say that he has a really steep climb to get hired.   The guy can coach basketball no question about it however I doubt that will be in Bloomington.   Probably in the SEC 

Totally agree. If UK and Louisville never gave him a serious look, that says all you need to know.

[TargaFlorio 137]

Because I'm bored during a snoozer Super Bowl, here's how fast some of the mentioned coaches play on offense (not saying they're all candidates)

Kenpom adjusted tempo for this season (possessions per 40 minutes adjusted for opponent)

1. Alabama 

47. Arizona

49. Vanderbilt

50. Gonzaga

55. Michigan

90. Florida

97. Iowa St

115. Auburn

120 IU (for reference)

145. Creighton

150. Ole Miss

168. Missouri 

172. Marquette

201. Miss St.

227. Texas A&M

267 Texas Tech

301. Baylor

304. UCLA

331. West Virginia

342. Clemson

364. Drake (dead last according to kenpom)

[Uspshoosier 54,294]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Have you watched Drake this year? They are not holding the ball for an eternity each possession. They are passing and cutting working for the best shot. 

Yeah just watched them struggle at home with a struggling ISU team.   Blew a 13 pt lead     Lucky they won in OT.  My trees are not good this year so it was good to see them compete at Drake.  Had a chance to win it at the end of regulation but got stripped at the rim 

[Home Jersey 15,727]

7 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I have watched them a lot because I have been interested in seeing his style and whether I would want him to coach at IU. They pass up fast breaks and open shots over and over and over. It’s brutal to watch

Yeah, my issue is less with play style and more his body of work (lack of years). They play 7 guys this year, 4 D2 transfers and a JUCO. He’s always played a slow pace but I think passing up fast breaks is somewhat intentional by design with this group. I am baking in an assumption that he would coach not like a carbon copy of this one year. He is still young so I would assume able to adapt on some level. He is smart enough I think to figure things out given time and resources. I think it’s a moot point anyway since he’s very unlikely to be hired IMO. Totally fair to not like passing up open shots, frustrates me too when I watch them. 

[IndianaSconnie90 806]

13 minutes ago, bodsbums said:

I’m a teacher and coach- former student and player goes to Ole Miss of all places. He reached out this week to ask me if I thought IU would go for Beard. He said several things  but a couple of interest:

1. Well known there that Beard is/has been interested in IU.

2. He still has an alcohol problem. Students see him hammered out and about regularly in Oxford. 

Define "alcohol problem". Is he out in the streets shouting at little old ladies while drunk or getting hammered at a bar, like everybody else? 

[5fouls 230]

2 minutes ago, TargaFlorio said:

Because I'm bored during a snoozer Super Bowl, here's how fast some of the mentioned coaches play on offense (not saying they're all candidates)

Kenpom adjusted tempo for this season (possessions per 40 minutes adjusted for opponent)

1. Alabama 

47. Arizona

49. Vanderbilt

50. Gonzaga

55. Michigan

90. Florida

97. Iowa St

115. Auburn

120 IU (for reference)

145. Creighton

150. Ole Miss

168. Missouri 

172. Marquette

201. Miss St.

227. Texas A&M

267 Texas Tech

301. Baylor

304. UCLA

331. West Virginia

342. Clemson

364. Drake (dead last according to kenpom)

And, the best W/L record among that list?

 

[Demo 23,309]

29 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

I would rather win playing at a deliberate pace than play exciting basketball and not win.  

Yeah but they aren’t a binary choice. You can win playing with pace and lose playing 55 possessions games. It’s about execution. 

[MikeRoberts 7,992]

8 minutes ago, Demo said:

Agree.  I like the way they play. It’s much better than watching some of those mid-2010’s Tony Bennett teams. 

How is it different? That is exactly what I’ve compared it to. I feel like I’m watching 1930s peach basket basketball or something. Slow, pumpfake, pass, slow, pumpfake, pass

[Stuhoo 89,104]

12 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Define "alcohol problem". Is he out in the streets shouting at little old ladies while drunk or getting hammered at a bar, like everybody else? 

Sconnie? It not a pretty sight.

He’s bar-hammering old ladies, and getting shouting streets a little drunk.

DO WE WANT THAT AT INDIANA?

[go iu bb 9,363]

16 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Lord only knows how many times are we going to have to debate Beard's DV arrest over the next 5 weeks...

In addition to it meaning that IU has a good basketball team again, I want the next coach to be successful so I don't have to see a bunch of posts pining for Beard to be coach.

[steubenhoosier 1,774]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Sconnie? It not a pretty sight.

He’s hammering little old ladies with a bar, and getting shouting streets drunk.

DO WE WANT THAT AT INDIANA?

Depends. If you own a bar… definitely.

[bodsbums 364]

6 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Define "alcohol problem". Is he out in the streets shouting at little old ladies while drunk or getting hammered at a bar, like everybody else? 

Getting hammered at a bar when you are one of the highest profile people not to mention best paid state employees is a problem. I suppose you can disagree that this is problem drinking but personally  I don’t want IU’s basketball coach intoxicated in public. 

[Uspshoosier 54,294]

8 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

And, the best W/L record among that list?

 

The team with the NET 238th SOS and 17-1 against Q3 and Q4 teams 

[5fouls 230]

5 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

How is it different? That is exactly what I’ve compared it to. I feel like I’m watching 1930s peach basket basketball or something. Slow, pumpfake, pass, slow, pumpfake, pass

Part of that could be the coach game-planning what needs to be done to win the game (novel concept).  If he had a team that was more adept at playing a faster pace, he might very well do that.

Winning is the #1 priority.  Right?

[iubb 4,787]

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1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

I would be happy with Cronin

[mamasa 15,942]

4 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Nips just looks like he's 87 years old.   

Hmmm, 87 year old nips. Can’t tell how I feel about that lol

[5fouls 230]

6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

The team with the NET 238th SOS and 17-1 against Q3 and Q4 teams 

With a coach that did this.

 

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7 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

Can anyone validate that story with 100% certainty? I was told that was not true and made up by pro Dolson people to make it look like he had it on lock and then others came in and screwed it up for him. Meanwhile he was never really coming because his family didn’t want to. That last part should have been known very early on but was overlooked. 
One of many reasons Buckner and others were able to claim incompetence and push him aside and take control of the hiring and insert their guy, aka plan zzz.

I think Pete Yonkman is the voice at the table for Cook. It doesn't mean Ferguson still doesn't hold some weight.  You seem to be pretty close to the situation. If I remember correctly Dolson had zeroed in on Matta as his guy and the uncertainty with his health stopped that and Dolson didn't have a plan B? That is the part Brian Evans leaves out of the story. But after that Quinn moved in. At the time Jawan Howard made an elite 8 and Penny was moving in the right direction. The narrative had softened a bit on the alumni coach. 

[Uspshoosier 54,294]

Just now, 5fouls said:

With a coach that did this.

 

Very impressive D2 resume

Net doesn’t include anything non D1 so none of that means anything in the D1 world of things.   He is a college basketball lifer so I would have no problem supporting him as an IU coach however posting D2 numbers and comparing it to high major D1 programs is something  I personally wouldn’t do just yet