General Coach Candidate News

[IU Scott 2,375]

27 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Doyle has reported that Dolson is using back channels to contact candidates so that he maintains plausible deniability. Goodman said IU zeroed in on Holtmann, Rabjohns said Dolson didn't talk to Holtmann. So it is entirely plausible, and perhaps even likely, that IU reached out through some intermediary, but is now trying to use the Dolson didn't talk to him line to cover its tracks.

Zeroed in is probably the wrong word to use but should say reached out

[ronzo4IU 118]

We just need somebody with that certain type of “je ne sais quoi” and the only one I see in this is Oats. 

I’m not a win at all cost guy, so i could see going the cheaper route with an up and commer like Dane Fife etc....  The hardest part IMO for SD is detecting that certain something that eventual great coaches have.

[FrenchConnection 196]

4 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight69 said:

Wouldn’t these leaks make you skeptical of who you’re working with if you’re Dolson? Since very few people know anything, you’d have to know it’s someone in that small circle. Unless the leak is Dolson himself which would be an ultimate curveball. 

I would have to think that the leaks are coming from the other side of each contact. Holtmann has everything to gain from this becoming public. He enhances his own reputation and hurts a conference rival. 

[FightFor6 895]

Doyle joining this circus act is hilarious and so predictable. Talk about delusions of grandeur. "I am the authority." This clown get paid for this nonsense?

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,298]

Just now, ronzo4IU said:

We just need somebody with that certain type of “je ne sais quoi” and the only one I see in this is Oats. 

I’m not a win at all cost guy, so i could see going the cheaper route with an up and commer like Dane Fife etc....  The hardest part IMO for SD is detecting that certain something that eventual great coaches have.

Indiana won’t win with an up and comer. When has that worked in the B1G at the level Indiana is wanting?  
 
Make a statement hire!  Take no prisoners!  Knock 2-3 straight recruiting classes out of the park.  Win.  Don’t lose momentum. That’s the recipe.  

[RaceToTheTop 25,617]

5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Zeroed in is probably the wrong word to use but should say reached out

Goodman knew what he was doing, which was to make it look like IU had picked their guy and was embarassingly turned down when they likely wasn’t what he heard.....so now he backtracks and says it wasn’t Dolson talking.  That isn’t zeroing in.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,298]

7 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I would have to think that the leaks are coming from the other side of each contact. Holtmann has everything to gain from this becoming public. He enhances his own reputation and hurts a conference rival. 

Adding Holtmann to my list, of drill them by 20, then give them the “Oats” treatment post game. GTFOH!  
 

B1G list

Izzo, Underwood, Holtmann, and maybe Juwan if he keeps recruiting the way I want Indiana to recruit (petty).  

Edited March 26, 2021 by WayneFleekHoosier

[IUc2016 7,121]

Indiana won’t win with an up and comer. When has that worked in the B1G at the level Indiana is wanting?  
 
Make a statement hire!  Take no prisoners!  Knock 2-3 straight recruiting classes out of the park.  Win.  Don’t lose momentum. That’s the recipe.  

Umm not saying it will work for IU...

But you might want to do some rethinking. The two most accomplished coaches ever in the BIG have been up and comers when they took the BIG job...

Knight and izzo?


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[PB1230 502]

5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Zeroed in is probably the wrong word to use but should say reached out

Also, I'm curious to know when this contact actually happened. Was it in the last few days or was it like a week ago when IU was potentially sending out feelers to 20+ coaches? How many coaches has Texas already reached to through similar back channels?

[ronzo4IU 118]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Indiana won’t win with an up and comer. When has that worked in the B1G at the level Indiana is wanting?  
 
Make a statement hire!  Take no prisoners!  Knock 2-3 straight recruiting classes out of the park.  Win.  Don’t lose momentum. That’s the recipe.  

Thats what i said i see in Oats if we’re willing to spend that kind of money.

 

[FrenchConnection 196]

4 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

We just need somebody with that certain type of “je ne sais quoi” and the only one I see in this is Oats. 

I’m not a win at all cost guy, so i could see going the cheaper route with an up and commer like Dane Fife etc....  The hardest part IMO for SD is detecting that certain something that eventual great coaches have.

Why would Oats leave Alabama. He seems to have no problems recruiting talent to play there and he gets to build his own thing. At IU, he would have to rebuild a program and coach in the shadow of a HOF coach who still lives in town.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,298]

1 minute ago, IUc2016 said:

Umm not saying it will work for IU...

But you might want to do some rethinking. The two most accomplished coaches ever in the BIG have been up and comers when they took the BIG job...

Knight and izzo?


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Literally eons ago, when players stayed for 4 years and the best players were Seniors. I don’t need to rethink this. 

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Just now, PB1230 said:

Also, I'm curious to know when this contact actually happened. Was it in the last few days or was it like a week ago when IU was potentially sending out feelers to 20+ coaches? How many coaches has Texas already reached to through similar back channels?

That’s the funny thing.  We have actually interviewed guys.....but we ‘zeroed in’ on someone the AD hasn’t even talked to?

[IU Scott 2,375]

Just now, FrenchConnection said:

Why would Oats leave Alabama. He seems to have no problems recruiting talent to play there and he gets to build his own thing. At IU, he would have to rebuild a program and coach in the shadow of a HOF coach who still lives in town.

It's INDIANA LOL!

[IU Scott 2,375]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Literally eons ago, when players stayed for 4 years and the best players were Seniors. I don’t need to rethink this. 

Pretty much all the top coaches started out at a low level and moved up the ladder.  Everyone wants Oats and 3 years ago he was in Buffalo.

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Indiana won’t win with an up and comer. When has that worked in the B1G at the level Indiana is wanting?  
 
Make a statement hire!  Take no prisoners!  Knock 2-3 straight recruiting classes out of the park.  Win.  Don’t lose momentum. That’s the recipe.  

Well let's see

Tom Izzo

Chris Holtzman

Juwan Howard

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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,298]

Just now, IU Scott said:

Pretty much all the top coaches started out at a low level and moved up the ladder.  Everyone wants Oats and 3 years ago he was in Buffalo.

True, but he’s proving himself at a higher level.  Personally I’d still like to see a little more longevity out of him but he seems to have the “it” factor to gamble on. 

[rcbowla 7,092]

Umm not saying it will work for IU...

But you might want to do some rethinking. The two most accomplished coaches ever in the BIG have been up and comers when they took the BIG job...

Knight and izzo?


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Gene Keady and Jud Heathcote (I know it was because of Magic).

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Dedicated IU Faithful: "Mr. Dolson, it's been a woefully long time since the basketball program has shown any semblance of a return to prominence; could you at least give us some minor reassurance regarding your plan to replace Archie Miller to make IU relevant again in light of all these conflicting 'insider sources,' player transfer portal entries and social media reports claiming to know what's going on?"

 

Scott Dolson:  "Well, you know, my plan has a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-you's... And uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Dolson's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, coaching candidate regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber."