Alford Bailey Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: 1987 Indiana Hoosiers Beat 7-21 Northwestern by 52. 14-17 Wisconsin by 38 & 9-19 Minnesota by 24 Followed by 2nd games all 3 in a row Win at Northwestern by 2 At Wisconsin by 1 in 3 OT Minnesota by 2. Twitter would have gone nuts. Soon after IU loses 2 in a row B Tonsoni LOL! I dont think younger Hoosier fans realize we used to never lose to NW and Wisconsin (yes Wisconsin) and rarely lost to Minny. I think we beat Wisconsin roughly 30 straight games and and only lost to NW 3-4 times in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Class of '66 Old Fart, Uspshoosier and theriverpilot 3
Stuhoo Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Chris Collins is the 2nd coach in Big Ten history to have a 10-game losing streak in 3 straight seasons. The other was Nelson Norgren, in 1934-35, 35-36, 36-37 at University of Chicago. @CBB_Central Yeah...Nelson Norgren really sucked.
lillurk Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, kreigh8 said: Likely not the place for this question/post, but is anyone aware if NCAA or any site tracks Division 1 fast break points per game. I haven't been able to find anything at all on it and all I've found is the NBA stats. Been itching to know where we stack up. We play at a slower pace than say Gonzaga, but would love to know where we land in that stat. Edit: While there are plenty of issues and I fully realize this wouldn't instantly make us a top 10 team, I just can't help but wonder why we don't look for it. With how bad we can shoot it at times I'm baffled we don't look for it outside of maybe Lander See if the hoop math data helps answer your hypothesis: https://hoop-math.com/Indiana2021.php
AZ Hoosier Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 Only way I see Archie lasting another 14 months is if Covid keeps fans out of assembly hall next year. Freddy isn’t there to protect him any more.
kreigh8 Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, lillurk said: See if the hoop math data helps answer your hypothesis: https://hoop-math.com/Indiana2021.php Thank you so much! That does actually. According to this IU is ranked 297th in the country with our % of shots coming in transition at 19.8% and 207th in % on those shots in transition at 53.3%. For some perspective Gonzaga is 4th and 9th in those same statistics. I've bookmarked this site as I'm a bit of a stat nerd. Thanks again, love this already ALASKA HOOSIER, Loaded Chicken Sandwich, lillurk and 1 other 4
Brass Cannon Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, kreigh8 said: Thank you so much! That does actually. According to this IU is ranked 297th in the country with our % of shots coming in transition at 19.8% and 207th in % on those shots in transition at 53.3%. For some perspective Gonzaga is 4th and 9th in those same statistics. I've bookmarked this site as I'm a bit of a stat nerd. Thanks again, love this already Which is crazy since Archie wants us to score in transition.
HoosierAloha Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, kreigh8 said: Thank you so much! That does actually. According to this IU is ranked 297th in the country with our % of shots coming in transition at 19.8% and 207th in % on those shots in transition at 53.3%. For some perspective Gonzaga is 4th and 9th in those same statistics. I've bookmarked this site as I'm a bit of a stat nerd. Thanks again, love this already Kenpom tracks tempo as well. Not the exact stat but glad someone could find what you wanted. IU is 303 in adjT on the season.. fun To answer your previous question, I believe we don't run because Archie is afraid our ATO (assists to opponents) would go through the roof. He might also be thinking he wants TJD (should be our biggest advantage on offense) to get a touch every time down. I completely understand the downfall to this argument.
TheWatShot Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 I've wondered if we'd run more if Lander ever got regular minutes. We've had opportunities, but Phinisee always approaches half-court like he's about to run onto an ice rink without skates. jk34, Alford Bailey, HoosierDYT and 4 others 4 3
HoosierAloha Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, TheWatShot said: about to run onto an ice rink without skates. This made me laugh way more than it should. It's either the visual that popped into my head or sleep deprivation. Str8Hoosiers and ALASKA HOOSIER 1 1
Alford Bailey Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: I've wondered if we'd run more if Lander ever got regular minutes. We've had opportunities, but Phinisee always approaches half-court like he's about to run onto an ice rink without skates. Its true. Rob looks to be in slow motion most of the time which aint good for a point guard.
johnsoniu Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 Yeah, even with Lander in we’re not getting out in transition.In the Rutgers game, Rutgers scored down on the block, Hunter was right there for the inbound and got it in to Lander pretty quickly, who had circled back down for an easy entry as everyone headed up court. Lander got the inbound and raced up court. By the time he got to half court he had already passed Al and was about to leave TJD and Arman in his dust. Hard to push tempo when you’re the only one making the effort to do so.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners HoosierAloha, HoosierHoopster, Class of '66 Old Fart and 2 others 5
bigrod Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Brass Cannon said: Which is crazy since Archie wants us to score in transition. My CEO always says he want's 20% growth, year after year, but never has a plan on how to do it. I always think, "yeah, who doesn't?" Wonder if this is the same. To say, I want us to score in transition, I want to shoot 75% from the free throw line, I want to shoot 40% from 3 - everyone wants that. The guy in charge has to come up with a good, executable plan on how to achieve those things. If he has, I haven't seen the players get it yet. Hardwood83, HoosierAloha, ALASKA HOOSIER and 1 other 4
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 Not entirely, I watch some other games, but I only CARE about IU. Kentucky lost last night again (yay!) and has looked lost all year. Does anyone say "Cal can't coach!"? No, because he has a history of winning big. I wouldn't judge a coach on one game or even a stretch in a given year. Things happen. But after 4 seasons it's fair to draw conclusions. Archie hasn't done well in conference. His wins are ugly and he is consistently beaten. If that is getting out-coached, out-recruited or whatever, at the end of the day, does it matter why he's losing? Win. Games. Now Archie- or go someplace else. That is my feeling. Which is why no one who thought he deserved credit for his end of game coaching has said he shouldn't be fired. His overall body of work is still negative. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 Archies end of game coaching had smart moves and pure stupidity all mixed in one. Smart to use your fouls. Dumb as can be to call a timeout. Dumb as can be to foul knowing they'd look to get fouled on a shot(which should have been called).
Popular Post Chris007 Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Archies end of game coaching had smart moves and pure stupidity all mixed in one. Smart to use your fouls. Dumb as can be to call a timeout. Dumb as can be to foul knowing they'd look to get fouled on a shot(which should have been called). Anyone that has ever coached will tell you to call a timeout to make sure everyone is on the same page. Also to let the officials know what you are going to do. That's why it wasn't and shouldn't have been called a shooting foul. Officials know that no one is attempting a half-court shot when there is time left. Same reason they don't call an intentional foul on a breakaway layup. Stuhoo, jk34, taco corp and 6 others 9
Chris007 Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 19 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said: Freddy isn’t there to protect him any more. 10 million is there to protect him for next year. LamarCheeks, mamasa, MemphisHoosier and 3 others 5 1
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chris007 said: Anyone that has ever coached will tell you to call a timeout to make sure everyone is on the same page. Also to let the officials know what you are going to do. That's why it wasn't and shouldn't have been called a shooting foul. Officials know that no one is attempting a half-court shot when there is time left. Same reason they don't call an intentional foul on a breakaway layup. And every coach is incredibly stupid for doing so. If you haven't practiced that, you're not doing your job. If your senior guard can't relay what you're doing after FTs in a pre FT huddle, you're not doing your job. If refs aren't calling a shooting foul just because a coach tells them they are going to foul, the ref isn't doing their job. And we are lucky B1G officials are so stupid.
Stuhoo Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: And every coach is incredibly stupid for doing so. If you haven't practiced that, you're not doing your job. If your senior guard can't relay what you're doing after FTs in a pre FT huddle, you're not doing your job. If refs aren't calling a shooting foul just because a coach tells them they are going to foul, the ref isn't doing their job. And we are lucky B1G officials are so stupid. That's the equivalent of not re-training and re-enforcing an important policy to a business staff because you've already told them and thereafter if they screw up it's their fault. In buttoned-up law enforcement the deadly force policy is re-enforced quarterly, and immediately prior to every arrest scenario. In basketball? "Let's review exactly how we're gonna handle this situation with ten seconds left in a tie game" is that equivalent. Chris007, GaryP and HoosierAloha 2 1
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 And every coach is incredibly stupid for doing so. If you haven't practiced that, you're not doing your job. If your senior guard can't relay what you're doing after FTs in a pre FT huddle, you're not doing your job. If refs aren't calling a shooting foul just because a coach tells them they are going to foul, the ref isn't doing their job. And we are lucky B1G officials are so stupid. Man, I really believe you have all the answers. Why aren't you coaching at one of the blue bloods or the NBA? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk tkbbn, IUc2016, GaryP and 2 others 5
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Stuhoo said: That's the equivalent of not re-training and re-enforcing an important policy to a business staff because you've already told them and thereafter if they screw up it's their fault. In buttoned-up law enforcement the deadly force policy is re-enforced quarterly, and immediately prior to every arrest scenario. In basketball? "Let's review exactly how we're gonna handle this situation with ten seconds left in a tie game" is that equivalent. You should already be talking about it as the game goes down to the wire with your assistant coaches and down the stretch as FTs are shot. Pulling Phinisee over as Al shoots FTs and letting the team know what to do. You don't give a terrible team with zero timeouts, a free timeout. It's one thing in coaching that needs to go away.
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