HoosierHoopster Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: Yea. We told on ourselves?! To compare Sampson to these other transgressions is ridiculous. What Sampson did was a fraction of hiring strippers, paying students, covering up sexual assaults, fake classes which is what some of our rivals were doing. Phone calls is not even in the same category. The irony of it all, is 99.9% of the time you would have never of heard about phone calls because the school wouldn’t have self reported. and you know what? I wish our teams the last 10 years played with a fraction of the heart Houston teams play with. We’d get run off the floor cause those guys are the definition of grit. And the very next year Sampson’s violations were no longer ncaa violations. He had pissed off the ncaa when he left okla while it was under investigation for his “sins”…. The real underlying problem with Sampson though was his disregard of academics (several players were failing) and the drug culture that surrounded his program. He’s a Hell of a coach but he wouldn’t have ended up being right for IU anyway (I say that while ducking, his x’s and o’s are outstanding). Hard to know what’s going on behind the scenes here in Houston, UH doesn’t have the same academic culture in its sports programs, and he may run his program differently now after all this time and the experience of a 5-year show cause and assistant coaching in the League. JaybobHoosier and 8bucks 2
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Hoosier987 Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said: And the very next year Sampson’s violations were no longer ncaa violations. He had pissed off the ncaa when he left okla while it was under investigation for his “sins”…. The real underlying problem with Sampson though was his disregard of academics (several players were failing) and the drug culture that surrounded his program. He’s a Hell of a coach but he wouldn’t have ended up being right for IU anyway (I say that while ducking, his x’s and o’s are outstanding). Hard to know what’s going on behind the scenes here in Houston, UH doesn’t have the same academic culture in its sports programs, and he may run his program differently now after all this time and the experience of a 5-year show cause and assistant coaching in the League. The academic issue is another misnomer. The grades were very good first semester. 2nd semester was a failure after the season went sideways because there was no more hope.. we don’t self report..there are no Fs MikeRoberts and thebigweave 1 1
Hornsby Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 And the very next year Sampson’s violations were no longer ncaa violations. He had pissed off the ncaa when he left okla while it was under investigation for his “sins”…. The real underlying problem with Sampson though was his disregard of academics (several players were failing) and the drug culture that surrounded his program. He’s a Hell of a coach but he wouldn’t have ended up being right for IU anyway (I say that while ducking, his x’s and o’s are outstanding). Hard to know what’s going on behind the scenes here in Houston, UH doesn’t have the same academic culture in its sports programs, and he may run his program differently now after all this time and the experience of a 5-year show cause and assistant coaching in the League.Like they go to class now. Somehow nobody is ever ineligible anymore. It's a joke.Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk MikeRoberts 1
newcastle12 Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 13 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: Yea. We told on ourselves?! To compare Sampson to these other transgressions is ridiculous. What Sampson did was a fraction of hiring strippers, paying students, covering up sexual assaults, fake classes which is what some of our rivals were doing. Phone calls is not even in the same category. The irony of it all, is 99.9% of the time you would have never of heard about phone calls because the school wouldn’t have self reported. We did, and therefore everyone heard about it….and then Myles Brand decided to screw the season and make it public right in the middle of league play…where we were something like 20-2 (man I would give to have a record like that again.) and you know what? I wish our teams the last 10 years played with a fraction of the heart Houston teams play with. We’d get run off the floor cause those guys are the definition of grit and toughness. They play hard…something our teams have struggled doing. Didn't Sampson run a team at Indiana that had drug dealers, and pimps on the team (legitimately) and had gotten so bad academically that we weren't going to be invited to post season tournaments? woodenshoemanHoosierfan 1
Popular Post Rusty Shackleford Posted March 15, 2025 Popular Post Posted March 15, 2025 9 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: That's smoke! Seriously, I hope some real leaks start happening soon because relitigating the Sampson era and debating how serious domestic violence should be taken is really wearing me out. JPCIVOP, ronzo4IU, Hoosier Roots and 12 others 15
cbp4iu Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 When do we get the “A mystery candidate” is emerging in the Iu Job sweepstakes tweet from Goodman lillurk 1
Hornsby Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 And first year coach dusty may headed to the final. But at least we got to cook with woodson another year. That's the iu admins we have known for 25 years now. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Home Jersey, Henryville Hoosier, JPCIVOP and 1 other 3 1
Hoosier987 Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 Just now, newcastle12 said: Didn't Sampson run a team at Indiana that had drug dealers, and pimps on the team (legitimately) and had gotten so bad academically that we weren't going to be invited to post season tournaments? See grade comments above. Yes…there were a mix of high character guys and low character guys on that team which was working itself out the following year. Obviously, it was a learning moment for him as none of his teams have had arrests or issues since. Something we can’t say…as we’ve had issues and arrests since Sampson.
spe317 Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 13 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: Sounds like a D+ to me. Artie86 1
HoosierHoopster Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: The academic issue is another misnomer. The grades were very good first semester. 2nd semester was a failure after the season went sideways because there was no more hope.. we don’t self report..there are no Fs I don’t remember it that way, it took Crean some time to build the academic record back up, and it wss the blatant drug culture that turned off Cody’s older brother. I’d have to see the academic history but that’s not how I remember it and I was following the program then 8bucks and mamasa 2
JSHoosier Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 26 minutes ago, NVFalcons1990 said: The old rope a dope......call the shot and then we 'bunt'. So what is our "bunt" as a coach? Bryce Drew? lol Brad Brownell SlammySammy and MikeRoberts 2
MrBBall Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 Just now, HoosierHoopster said: I don’t remember it that way, it took Crean some time to build the academic record back up, and it wss the blatant drug culture that turned off Cody’s older brother. I’d have to see the academic history but that’s not how I remember it and I was following the program then Walking into a large amount of coke on the coffee table isn’t something a Zeller likes to see 8bucks, eddy4iu, HoosierHoopster and 3 others 6
Deserthoozier Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 Every significant win Dusty gets is gonna be salt in the wound…from here until eternity!! JustWinBaby, skhoosier2, MikeRoberts and 3 others 4 2
FartsMcGee Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, spe317 said: Sounds like a D+ to me. D's get degrees thebigweave, spe317 and tkbbn 2 1
Hoosier987 Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 8 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Like they go to class now. Somehow nobody is ever ineligible anymore. It's a joke. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Which is another good point. Some of our rivals had fake classes (or in UK…they just never went)…but as mentioned above, that team had good grades first semester. It went to crap after we self reported because in some players’ eyes… There was no point of going to class anymore - their season had just been ruined. Hornsby and MikeRoberts 2
JSHoosier Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 23 minutes ago, IUBtown said: Woodson comes back and wins a title? Do they have a title for laziest coach in college? IUBtown and Deserthoozier 1 1
Helgo Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 It better not be Brownell. That would be dumb. MrBBall 1
Kentuckysucks Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, Hornsby said: And first year coach dusty may headed to the final. But at least we got to cook with woodson another year Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Hornsby, Pagoda, Jeff Flabjohns and 5 others 2 1 2 3
Hornsby Posted March 15, 2025 Posted March 15, 2025 Every significant win Dusty gets is gonna be salt in the wound…from here until eternity!!Choice one. Hire dusty. Choice two. Give Woodson 6 million and let him cook. Iu makes choice two 100% of the time..They have to honestly try to be this incompetent for 25 years.Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Kentuckysucks, skhoosier2, JPCIVOP and 1 other 4
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