(2022) - SG C. J. Gunn to DePaul

[Stuhoo]

12 hours ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

Heck I would start Gunn, Duncomb, Banks, JHS, Malik and see what happens. 

What would happen is that we would win and we wouldn’t learn much because Elon really stinks.

Without X and with Leal and Logan out of the rotation Gunn and Banks are now in the top ten on the team. If Gunn is gonna play it’ll be because Gallo turns into the backup PG and he’s splitting with Bates.

Banks is gonna have to take minutes from Kopp, who has played very well lately, including against Arizona.

[DChoosier]

35 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

What would happen is that we would win and we wouldn’t learn much because Elon really stinks.

 

Bingo….

I’m actually in favor of providing more minutes for guys like Gunn against Elon for their development but, as you stated, do we really learn that much?

Countless past posts have expressed excitement because Damezi hit 2 threes against the Little Sisters of the Poor, exclaimed we must have a lot of depth because the bench scored a ton against Postal Workers Northeast Arkansas State etc., but how often have those performances translated against better teams? The next two games won’t prove much but we will learn a lot, in regards to where we are and who can step up, starting with at Iowa.

[RaceToTheTop]

13 hours ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

Heck I would start Gunn, Duncomb, Banks, JHS, Malik and see what happens. 

Why play them in a combo that will never happen against real competition?  Pepper them in combinations that would be on the court at the same time.

[Stuhoo]

On 12/18/2022 at 10:24 AM, Stuhoo said:

Play him. 

See what we’ve got against lesser competition. With 20 mpg the kid is gonna be an excellent distance shooter, and he feels like he could be the chippy player we need. Play Gallo too.

Bump...play him. Last night showed a strong 20 minutes.

And a SportsCenter Top Ten Play:

 

[IUc2016]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Bump...play him. Last night showed a strong 20 minutes.

And a SportsCenter Top Ten Play:

 

the irony is he made number 5 on the top 10 plays and could have made number 1 on the NOT top 10 plays lol

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

the irony is he made number 5 on the top 10 plays and could have made number 1 on the NOT top 10 plays lol

And last night his shooting was?

5 of 10.

[IUc2016]

25 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

And last night his shooting was?

5 of 10.

Yes strong night all things considered. I am not ashamed to brag that I have been banging the Gunn drum since he committed two years ago. 

[Henryville Hoosier]

 

[8bucks]

17 minutes ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

 

I actually have been expecting something like to come out regarding Gunn or Banks or even TG.  While I would love to grab a portal guy that has a history of being a great outside shooter I have been expecting the stories to start dropping that based on summer play someone on the roster has emerged and is "lighting it up".  We hear the unofficial summer and early fall reports of guys killing it and sometimes that happens and many times it does not.

So while i get skeptical of these reports, I fall for them all the time because I prefer to see one of our own develop and fill that role.  Not just fill it, but excel in that role.  

Gunn made a pretty big improvement in his outside shooting in HS when he came back from injury and i would expect him to improve upon last year (which is not hard to do).  

[HoosierX]

42 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I actually have been expecting something like to come out regarding Gunn or Banks or even TG.  While I would love to grab a portal guy that has a history of being a great outside shooter I have been expecting the stories to start dropping that based on summer play someone on the roster has emerged and is "lighting it up".  We hear the unofficial summer and early fall reports of guys killing it and sometimes that happens and many times it does not.

So while i get skeptical of these reports, I fall for them all the time because I prefer to see one of our own develop and fill that role.  Not just fill it, but excel in that role.  

Gunn made a pretty big improvement in his outside shooting in HS when he came back from injury and i would expect him to improve upon last year (which is not hard to do).  

Yeah there's definitely at least 1 every year. I'd say 80% of the time, it doesn't manifest the next season.

[Stuhoo]

We’ve got one proven option at SG and two very talented unproven options 

[Honkyman]

2 hours ago, 8bucks said:

Gunn made a pretty big improvement in his outside shooting in HS when he came back from injury and i would expect him to improve upon last year (which is not hard to do).  

Yes, it will not be hard for him to improve over this past season. Gunn was not just bad from 3-point range. At 8%, he was awful.  But to be able to be on the floor in crucial moments, Gunn needs to improve dramatically. We'll see. Gunn may not be ready for meaningful minutes until the year after next.

[Joe_hoopsier]

5 hours ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

 

Looks like CJ has built a "foundation" to his high rise structure. He looks thicker below the belt. Cold we see a break out!!!

[cthomas]

I really like this young man and if he is putting in the work, I hope he fills that last spot in the starting lineup. He has the size and athleticism to be that guy that we need. We don't necessarily need a portal guy to make this team better. For whatever reason, we seem to discount the guys we already have.

[go iu bb]

6 hours ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

 

Another IU offseason/practice sharp shooter! He certainly has the potential though, I just hope he can do it in games.

5 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

Why is he working out in Atlanta? 

Probably because the coaching staff is restricted in how much time they can spend coaching him, especially in the offseason. 

[MikeRoberts]

5 hours ago, cthomas said:

I really like this young man and if he is putting in the work, I hope he fills that last spot in the starting lineup. He has the size and athleticism to be that guy that we need. We don't necessarily need a portal guy to make this team better. For whatever reason, we seem to discount the guys we already have.

Gunn isn’t starting for IU next season, that is odd to even type. Gallo is better than him at everything  and most here are excited to recruit over him even

[8bucks]

7 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

Gunn isn’t starting for IU next season, that is odd to even type. Gallo is better than him at everything  and most here are excited to recruit over him even

Not expecting it but completely ruling it out doesn’t make sense either. No one knows how much work he is putting in or if that work will yield quick dividends. 

[Honkyman]

13 hours ago, cthomas said:

I really like this young man and if he is putting in the work, I hope he fills that last spot in the starting lineup. He has the size and athleticism to be that guy that we need. We don't necessarily need a portal guy to make this team better. For whatever reason, we seem to discount the guys we already have.

Gunn is being discounted because this past season he was a terrible perimeter shooter (8.3% from 3-point range). Yes, he has the physical gifts to be a good player but also seems to lack the skills to play meaningful minutes. Part of the reason for Gunn's poor shooting was judgment. He took many poor shots and also hurried his shot. Shooting in game situations is considerably more difficult than shooting in the training environment shown in the video above. If Gunn can settle down and concentrate on shooting when he is open rather than as soon as the ball is in his hands, he can make progress. But getting his 3-point percentage up to 30% (which would be a huge jump) wouldn't even make him a starter. Galloway had the best shooting percentage on the team last season from 3-point range (46.2%) and is almost certain to start at the 2-guard unless a better player from the portal is signed. Jakai Newton may prove to be better than Gunn.

[str8baller]

16 hours ago, Honkyman said:

Yes, it will not be hard for him to improve over this past season. Gunn was not just bad from 3-point range. At 8%, he was awful.  But to be able to be on the floor in crucial moments, Gunn needs to improve dramatically. We'll see. Gunn may not be ready for meaningful minutes until the year after next.

He’s probably not quite as bad as the 8% would suggest. He was really aggressive and let shots fly. And given most of the minutes we’re clean-up time, that’s a forgivable sin. In the few meaningful minutes he played,  I didn’t think he was too bad beyond typical freshman stuff.  
 

By way of example, he led the team in 3pts attempted on a per minute basis. Lol… Had he not just been gunning up shots he might’ve ended with a more “respectable “ freshman avg of 15-20%.  If he had done that, we wouldn’t be as down on him getting to something like 35% on backup guard type of attempts next season. He could up his percentage most likely by just being more selective.  
 

I wouldn’t rule out a contribution by Gunn next year based on that 8% stat. 

[IUHoosierJoe]

7 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

Gunn isn’t starting for IU next season, that is odd to even type. Gallo is better than him at everything  and most here are excited to recruit over him even

Thanks, chief.  Could you give me tonight’s lottery numbers?