Ed Schilling Leaving, Mike Roberts Arriving

[BGleas]

2 minutes ago, Demo said:

I was writing a much longer and angrier post with this same theme, but you got there quicker and more succinctly. Perfect response. And the criticism that CAM might be hiring a, gasp, mid-major coach just aggravates me to death. Some of the very best coaches in the game are mid-major coaches. If I had to argue who the best game coach in CBB is, I would probably say Randy Bennett or Bob McKillop. If I had to argue who the best game coach I’ve ever seen is, it would absolutely be John Kresse. Just because a guy hasn’t sat next to K or  Beilein doesn’t mean he hasn’t learned from a great coach and wouldn’t be a huge get.

Great post! 

[Brass Cannon]

The biggest splash we made on the assistant search the first go round was Schilling and look how that turned out. 

Not sure why people think a big splash is so important here. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Exactly. I can’t imagine being upset about this? Do the people that are upset know a single thing about Mike Roberts the coach, any recruiting ties he may or may not have, or really anything about his coaching prowess. Is he good at advanced scouting, implementing game plans, developing players? 

They just like to be negative. My bet is they have no clue

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[hoosierbgh]

7 hours ago, Chris007 said:

It gets old hearing we need an IU guy, then we get an IU guy, and some people go oh not him. We’re all IU!!

I have never subscribed to the idea that we need an IU guy as I believe the correct fit and skill set is far more important.  I didn't even know Mike Roberts was coaching so I can hardly say if he will be a good fit or not.  I highly suspect though that he will be a far better choice than Cheaney, who many were clamoring for, would have been. I'd much rather have a guy that has committed to making a career of being a coach and is pursuing it to his fullest than someone that is not as dedicated and doesn't want it as bad. How good a player was has little to do with how good of a coach they will be. 

[VO5]

I’m not going to pretend to know anything about Mike Roberts as a coach or recruiter. Based on that my opinion on the matter is probably worthless but on the surface I am underwhelmed. He may be the best thing since sliced bread but I just do not see it. I do know that there HAD to be better options out there because I have read from people in the know that we have the money to throw at assistants. Who knows what ultimately led to the hiring. Hoping he is better than Schilling at the very least..

[MoyeNeeded]

8 hours ago, Demo said:

I was writing a much longer and angrier post with this same theme, but you got there quicker and more succinctly. Perfect response. And the criticism that CAM might be hiring a, gasp, mid-major coach just aggravates me to death. Some of the very best coaches in the game are mid-major coaches. If I had to argue who the best game coach in CBB is, I would probably say Randy Bennett or Bob McKillop. If I had to argue who the best game coach I’ve ever seen is, it would absolutely be John Kresse. Just because a guy hasn’t sat next to K or  Beilein doesn’t mean he hasn’t learned from a great coach and wouldn’t be a huge get.

Scotty Davenport at Bellarmine!

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

10 hours ago, Fkfootball1 said:

Hopefully Roberts is good with Big Men. He must have some kind of skill. I hope.


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From Roberts UNCG bio:

Roberts helped center R.J. White earn All-Southern Conference honors three times in his career and finish eighth all-time in scoring with 1,460 points and fourth in rebounds with 878 caroms. White was the league’s dominant post player during his final two years, including ranking 11th in NCAA Division I in field goal percentage in 2015-16 (61.6%).

 

http://www.uncgspartans.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32200&ATCLID=209255391

[Demo]

15 minutes ago, MoyeNeeded said:

Scotty Davenport at Bellarmine!

Without a doubt.

[Stuhoo]

  22 hours ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

My guess is it will be someone some fans on here will be happy and  some iugradman and fkfootball won't 

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Fixed it for you.

 

[Honkyman]

Mike Roberts is hardly a home run but probably the best we can do under the circumstances (i.e., late summer means bad timing; IU's reputation is down nationally). If it is Roberts, give the guy a chance. He undoubtedly brings skills and perspective the program needs. 

[pumpfake]

I'm trying to think of any time we either had a new head coach hiring assistants or had to replace one that fans were really excited about who we hired.  Probably the most enthusiasm was when CAM hired Schilling.  Ed was thought to "check all the boxes" and fit the description of being a home run hire and look how that worked out.

Bottom line is that most of us don't have a whiff of a clue how well a coach (particularly an assistant) will pan out.  It's nice to have someone with an IU background or name recognition, but this is totally about CAM getting guys that will share his philosophy and work well with/for him.

[Chris007]

One thing I do want to say is this site had Mike Roberts before everyone else did. :-)

[HoosierCoop]

Mike Roberts:

• I know nothing about him as a coach.
• Wasn't a stellar player while at IU.
• Observed the last bit of the old culture at IU.
• Was in our last NC game.  Observed adversity, determination, and achievement during that season.
• Who else came from that culture era?  Michael Lewis (unavailable) and Dane Fife (unavailable)
• Name 5 NBA all-stars that are great college coaches?
• IMO, Archie may be looking for that last bit of IU culture and to understand what it takes.
• I don't know if it's a homerun but it may be what this program needs.

[Stuhoo]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

One thing I do want to say is this site had Mike Roberts before everyone else did. :-)

 

On a silver platter. 

And it's because this site has posters that know what the heck they're talking about. As much as I'm not a fan of self-congratulations, it came to my attention that other sites were self-congratulating ... heavily, all while NOT knowing what the heck was really going on.

So I'll leave that there, and try not to do this again; but it kinda ticked me off when another site had snarky mod posts about their wonderfulness, about how they weren't sure that this board even existed, and then interspersed them with completely off-point information, all while we were hours into discussing the eventual hire.

Rant over.

 

[JSHoosier]

If it's Roberts I'm glad he has IU ties.  We've gone away from IU long enough and it's failed.

I don't know about him as a coach but I will not assume he'd be a good hire just because, not wired that way.  I would hope we at least reached out to the likes of Lewis, we don't know if we don't try.

[Chris007]

One thing that excites me about this hire is Mike will handle all of the fall workouts, just like Schilling did. This is what fits Mike the best, he will get the most out of these kids, he is not afraid to get on someone. He will jump right into this role and run with it. 

[Aaron]

10 hours ago, Chris007 said:

It gets old hearing we need an IU guy, then we get an IU guy, and some people go oh not him. We’re all IU!!

I agree. I was about to post about this saying the same thing. 

[Demo]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

One thing that excites me about this hire is Mike will handle all of the fall workouts, just like Schilling did. This is what fits Mike the best, he will get the most out of these kids, he is not afraid to get on someone. He will jump right into this role and run with it. 

Chris, Do you know if the first contact on this was Archie to Roberts or Roberts to Archie? Curious.

[Chris007]

I know Mike personally he worked for me at IU for two summers. Awesome dude. The nicest guy still comes to say Hi when he is in town. Quick story, one summer Tim Garl brought me Mike Roberts, Ryan Tapac, Mark Johnson, Rod Wilmont, AJ Ratliff and Robert Vaden who all needed summer jobs at IU. The job was 8-4:30 Monday-Friday. We couldn't fire these guys. Mike was there every day for the whole summer, never missed a day, an hour, nothing. Was always so nice, spoke to everyone, got along with everyone, and was a hard worker. Pretty much the same with Tapac, Johnson and Wilmont. Now Vaden and Ratliff was a different story, they usually rolled in around 10 or 11 and left for the day by 2 or 3. Then they were always upset that their pay wasn't that much. Anyway, I have the utmost respect for Mike Roberts. 

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, Demo said:

Chris, Do you know if the first contact on this was Archie to Roberts or Roberts to Archie? Curious.

I do not know. One day I will hopefully get to sit down Mike and I will ask how this came about. This hiring was as quiet as any I've ever been around. So I really don't know if he was our first choice or second.