College Bball Thread

[go iu bb]

3 hours ago, IGotMeAWoody said:

Dior Johnson, Pitt freshman who has been suspended all season, just got his felony DA charges dropped down to a misdemeanor. 1 year of probation. His charges were also related to strangulation. Not sure if that can be used as a comparison, but if Beard has his charges plead down to misdemeanor I wonder if they do drop the hammer. 

I guess it will depend on how the jurisdiction handles DA charges.

Domestic violence charges have a tendency of being dropped. If that doesn't happen, I won't be surprised if it ends up being plead down to a misdemeanor.

[HoosierHoopster]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

HoosierHoopster is the guy I'm listening to on this one. 

Looks like in Texas a third degree felony carries from 2-10 years, but it could be pled down. Without a plea down to a misdemeanor? Some states have mandatory minimums, and some allow the sentencing judge to deviate.

Hey HH - in Texas is that a min/mand or can the judge sentence down on a felony?

First, let's just get this part out of the way, my rate is $450/hour. I'll send you the bill, hey, maybe I'll even accept a Zelle transfer. :)

Second, and unrelated to the first point, I'm a financial institutions litigator (civil), not a criminal attorney. (I'll bill you anyway.)

Third, directly related to the first point, I'm now billing my time to participate on a basketball board. $$$$

With those most important points covered, on to the substance.

Assault charges are set out in Chap. 22 of the Texas Penal Code (again, I don't practice criminal law, but remember, I'm billing you anyway).

In our fabulous State of Texas, an assault charge under Sec. 22.01(a)(1) -- which includes intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causing bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse -- is a misdemeanor (Class A). Except under certain enumerated circumstances it is upgraded to a felony of the third degree (the stated charge here). One of those circumstances is where the the offense is committed against a person whose relationship is described in certain Family Code sections, and the offense is committed intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly 'impeding the normal breathing or circulation of the blood of the person by applying pressure to the person's throat or neck or by blocking the person's nose or mouth." Haven't been reading the follow up reports etc. but that seems to be the charge here from the initial limited news flash I read above. 

"Punishments" of such offenses are separately delineated in the Title 3 of the Penal Code, and at Sec. 12.34 for third degree felonies. That statute provides that an individual adjudged guilty of a third degree felony "shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for any term of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years." (And there's also a permissive fine not to exceed $10,000 -- which will be less than my first invoice to you).

I take it you pulled that up to see the 2-10 years you mention, but I wanted to go through all of this detail to ensure my bill is high enough.

On whether the Texas criminal court judge could deviate from the statute, if the case were to go forward and to trial, I don't know (you still have to pay my bill), but my general understanding here is that the statutory language "shall be punished" is mandatory, and thus cannot be deviated from. I'm now going to ruminate on that, and charge you some more.

 

 

 

[rcbowla]

First, let's just get this part out of the way, my rate is $450/hour. I'll send you the bill, hey, maybe I'll even accept a Zelle transfer. :)
Second, and unrelated to the first point, I'm a financial institutions litigator (civil), not a criminal attorney. (I'll bill you anyway.)
Third, directly related to the first point, I'm now billing my time to participate on a basketball board. $$$$
With those most important points covered, on to the substance.
Assault charges are set out in Chap. 22 of the Texas Penal Code (again, I don't practice criminal law, but remember, I'm billing you anyway).
In our fabulous State of Texas, an assault charge under Sec. 22.01(a)(1) -- which includes intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causing bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse -- is a misdemeanor (Class A). Except under certain enumerated circumstances it is upgraded to a felony of the third degree (the stated charge here). One of those circumstances is where the the offense is committed against a person whose relationship is described in certain Family Code sections, and the offense is committed intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly 'impeding the normal breathing or circulation of the blood of the person by applying pressure to the person's throat or neck or by blocking the person's nose or mouth." Haven't been reading the follow up reports etc. but that seems to be the charge here from the initial limited news flash I read above. 
"Punishments" of such offenses are separately delineated in the Title 3 of the Penal Code, and at Sec. 12.34 for third degree felonies. That statute provides that an individual adjudged guilty of a third degree felony "shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for any term of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years." (And there's also a permissive fine not to exceed $10,000 -- which will be less than my first invoice to you).
I take it you pulled that up to see the 2-10 years you mention, but I wanted to go through all of this detail to ensure my bill is high enough.
On whether the Texas criminal court judge could deviate from the statute, if the case were to go forward and to trial, I don't know (you still have to pay my bill), but my general understanding here is that the statutory language "shall be punished" is mandatory, and thus cannot be deviated from. I'm now going to ruminate on that, and charge you some more.
 
 
 

Sounds like an expensive post for@Stuhoo

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[Hovadipo]

Well, Stu just blew the BTB staff Christmas bonuses. Hope he got the freakin' answers he wanted.

[Stuhoo]

20 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

First, let's just get this part out of the way, my rate is $450/hour. I'll send you the bill, hey, maybe I'll even accept a Zelle transfer. :)

Second, and unrelated to the first point, I'm a financial institutions litigator (civil), not a criminal attorney. (I'll bill you anyway.)

Third, directly related to the first point, I'm now billing my time to participate on a basketball board. $$$$

With those most important points covered, on to the substance.

Assault charges are set out in Chap. 22 of the Texas Penal Code (again, I don't practice criminal law, but remember, I'm billing you anyway).

In our fabulous State of Texas, an assault charge under Sec. 22.01(a)(1) -- which includes intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causing bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse -- is a misdemeanor (Class A). Except under certain enumerated circumstances it is upgraded to a felony of the third degree (the stated charge here). One of those circumstances is where the the offense is committed against a person whose relationship is described in certain Family Code sections, and the offense is committed intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly 'impeding the normal breathing or circulation of the blood of the person by applying pressure to the person's throat or neck or by blocking the person's nose or mouth." Haven't been reading the follow up reports etc. but that seems to be the charge here from the initial limited news flash I read above. 

"Punishments" of such offenses are separately delineated in the Title 3 of the Penal Code, and at Sec. 12.34 for third degree felonies. That statute provides that an individual adjudged guilty of a third degree felony "shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for any term of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years." (And there's also a permissive fine not to exceed $10,000 -- which will be less than my first invoice to you).

I take it you pulled that up to see the 2-10 years you mention, but I wanted to go through all of this detail to ensure my bill is high enough.

On whether the Texas criminal court judge could deviate from the statute, if the case were to go forward and to trial, I don't know (you still have to pay my bill), but my general understanding here is that the statutory language "shall be punished" is mandatory, and thus cannot be deviated from. I'm now going to ruminate on that, and charge you some more.

 

 

 

SEE!

1) thanks HH!

2) Hova—pay the man 

[HoosierHoopster]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

SEE!

1) thanks HH!

2) Hova—pay the man 

Make sure to include my time for reading this reply, Hova's too

[southsidehoosier]

18 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Well, Stu just blew the BTB staff Christmas bonuses. Hope he got the freakin' answers he wanted.

I thought he just signed you up for the Jelly of the Month Club

[reconmkd]

I don't know the ins and outs of the whole legal process, but after watching this, he has a $10K bond, court dates, a protective order, and there was no mention of charges being dropped.

[Chris007]

12 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

I don't know the ins and outs of the whole legal process, but after watching this, he has a $10K bond, court dates, a protective order, and there was no mention of charges being dropped.

If I were a coach I'm using this video and picture in every recruiting battle against him if he ever coaches again. 

[Brass Cannon]

This was a home run hire at one time.  Crazy 

[HoosierCoop]

5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

This was a home run hire at one time.  Crazy 

I hear the faint whisper of IU dodging a bullet.

[LamarCheeks]

Just for the hell of it, I went to the UT website. It just had a preview of tonight's game against Rice, with links providing answers to questions like: 

When will doors/gates open? 
Where is parking? 
Where is will call located? 
Where should students enter? 

It lacked the most relevant query ... 
Who will be coaching the team? 
 

[cthomas]

1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

First, let's just get this part out of the way, my rate is $450/hour. I'll send you the bill, hey, maybe I'll even accept a Zelle transfer. :)

Second, and unrelated to the first point, I'm a financial institutions litigator (civil), not a criminal attorney. (I'll bill you anyway.)

Third, directly related to the first point, I'm now billing my time to participate on a basketball board. $$$$

With those most important points covered, on to the substance.

Assault charges are set out in Chap. 22 of the Texas Penal Code (again, I don't practice criminal law, but remember, I'm billing you anyway).

In our fabulous State of Texas, an assault charge under Sec. 22.01(a)(1) -- which includes intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causing bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse -- is a misdemeanor (Class A). Except under certain enumerated circumstances it is upgraded to a felony of the third degree (the stated charge here). One of those circumstances is where the the offense is committed against a person whose relationship is described in certain Family Code sections, and the offense is committed intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly 'impeding the normal breathing or circulation of the blood of the person by applying pressure to the person's throat or neck or by blocking the person's nose or mouth." Haven't been reading the follow up reports etc. but that seems to be the charge here from the initial limited news flash I read above. 

"Punishments" of such offenses are separately delineated in the Title 3 of the Penal Code, and at Sec. 12.34 for third degree felonies. That statute provides that an individual adjudged guilty of a third degree felony "shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for any term of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years." (And there's also a permissive fine not to exceed $10,000 -- which will be less than my first invoice to you).

I take it you pulled that up to see the 2-10 years you mention, but I wanted to go through all of this detail to ensure my bill is high enough.

On whether the Texas criminal court judge could deviate from the statute, if the case were to go forward and to trial, I don't know (you still have to pay my bill), but my general understanding here is that the statutory language "shall be punished" is mandatory, and thus cannot be deviated from. I'm now going to ruminate on that, and charge you some more.

 

 

 

Pretty much my experience with attorneys. Especially the bill you for "ruminating" part.

[JSHoosier]

8 minutes ago, cthomas said:

Pretty much my experience with attorneys. Especially the bill you for "ruminating" part.

You'll probably be billed for that comment.

[HoosierHoopster]

12 minutes ago, cthomas said:

Pretty much my experience with attorneys. Especially the bill you for "ruminating" part.

What do you call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

 

A good start

(from the movie, Philadelphia, lol)

[HoosierHoopster]

5 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

You'll probably be billed for that comment.

Yours too. I'm billing everyone

[Rico]

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, reconmkd said:

I don't know the ins and outs of the whole legal process, but after watching this, he has a $10K bond, court dates, a protective order, and there was no mention of charges being dropped.

$10K bond means he can post (and probably already has) 10 percent ($1,000) to be released subject to bond terms. The initial court dates are all subject to re-setting, dismissal, etc. A protective order is standard in this kind of case. There won't be any mention of charges getting dropped, that will be for consideration by the assigned prosecutor.

Bill will be in the mail

[Redcamaro]

3 hours ago, rcs29 said:

Might be tough without victim's testimony?

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Most Law Enforcement Agencies take photos of the scene and all person's involved to avoid just the situation described above.

[LamarCheeks]

14 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

What do you call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

 

A good start

(from the movie, Philadelphia, lol)

Was at a zoo once where there were a group of lawyers touring. A drunk Czechoslovakian was taunting a couple lions in their pen when he got a little too close and all the sudden, one of the lions grabbed him, pulled him into the pen and ate him.
Zoo officials asked which lion was responsible. One of the lawyers insisted it was the boy lion. So they put the cat down, cut him open and ... no human remains inside. 

The moral of the story?

Never trust a lawyer when he says the Czech is in the male.