Fire Darian DeVries? Lol

[HoosierHoopster]

This thread may be the stupidest, most short-sighted idiotic nonsense I’ve seen yet. 

[BtownStrength]

4 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

This thread may be the stupidest, most short-sighted idiotic nonsense I’ve seen yet. 

Bringing this energy. I like it. 

[go iu bb]

We still have a basketball team?

[BA47591]

If this was "We never should've hired DeVries" thread, I'd be on board. My choices aren't exactly lighting it up though. He made his bed early and now we all get to lay in it. However I think he's a really solid x's and o's guy. He just blew it out his a55 with early staffing. A change or two with staffing and the talent necessary, I think we'll be OK. At the end of year 3 if we still can't get players then.....

[ziggyiu]

I don't think CDD should be fired, but this team is not worthy of my time and money. 

I'm curious to learn what can be done in the transfer portal this spring. 

CDD can coach. He proved it at two previous stops. This roster was very poorly constructed, but with a full stable of assistant coaches here (which wasn't the case last spring) and better commitment to NIL perhaps we'll have a more pleasing product to enjoy next season. 

If IU isn't remarkably better next year CDD is toast (whether he's fired or not), because it's been proven my multiple coaches across different conferences that during the portal era it doesn't take 3-4 years to build a winner. 

[str8baller]

2 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

You're not?  :)  

Well, we’ve certainly put ourselves behind the 8 ball. USPS lays it out well in the bracket thread. 
 

With that said…I went back and watched portions of Saturday’s game to see if it was really that bad or if it was being over blown.  Cliffs notes: it was really that bad. 
 

But it wasn’t necessarily bad in the way it’s being portrayed by some who just want to scrap the year and give Devries his “do over” next year because of the roster.  Yes, the roster has real flaws, but beyond that our execution and overall level of play was really bad. Just atrocious, at times. Maybe we’re trending in the wrong direction. Maybe it was just one of those games.  But a good coach can, and should, fix that over the course of a season.  
 

I don’t really see any reason why this team can’t improve their play and reel off some wins. To make the tourney realistically we’d probably have to battle back to like 9-11 in conference and then pull off a couple wins in the BTT.  
 

You know who did that? Mike Woodson was able to accomplish that. And yea he had TJD, but he also had the motley crew of XJ, Miller Kopp and Parker Stewart soaking up a ton of mins.  
 

People have pointed to Golden as the outlier who didn’t win right away. And that’s true. But looking at his season a little closer shows they played 6 tourney team’s nonconf. and lost them all. He had one of the toughest noncon schedules in the country that year. Then he went into the SEC—that got 8/14 teams in the tourney—and scratched out a .500 league record. Had they had IU’s noncon schedule this year (one of the easiest) it’s likely they have 2-3 more wins and might have been a fringe bubble team. 

Both Woody and Golden won some big conference games nobody expected them to win, too. So if Devries is the guy to build this thing back up, albeit slower than we want, why wouldn’t he be able to coach this team up and give us a fighting chance to get in the tourney?

[Golfman25]

6 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

I don't think CDD should be fired, but this team is not worthy of my time and money. 

I'm curious to learn what can be done in the transfer portal this spring. 

CDD can coach. He proved it at two previous stops. This roster was very poorly constructed, but with a full stable of assistant coaches here (which wasn't the case last spring) and better commitment to NIL perhaps we'll have a more pleasing product to enjoy next season. 

If IU isn't remarkably better next year CDD is toast (whether he's fired or not), because it's been proven my multiple coaches across different conferences that during the portal era it doesn't take 3-4 years to build a winner. 

The problem is this sets us a year behind.  Lets face it, based on the past 20 years, nobody is coming to IU just because.  So coach that will survive this has to be able to take a bunch of misfits and coach them into a winning team -- i.e.; make the tourney, maybe get to the second week.  That winning should attract players, so the next season or two he makes a run in the tourney.  That winning attracts better players, and now the foundation is set to be in the mix each year.  So far, we haven't gotten past step one.  

[Golfman25]

2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Well, we’ve certainly put ourselves behind the 8 ball. USPS lays it out well in the bracket thread. 
 

With that said…I went back and watched portions of Saturday’s game to see if it was really that bad or if it was being over blown.  Cliffs notes: it was really that bad. 
 

But it wasn’t necessarily bad in the way it’s being portrayed by some who just want to scrap the year and give Devries his “do over” next year because of the roster.  Yes, the roster has real flaws, but beyond that our execution and overall level of play was really bad. Just atrocious, at times. Maybe we’re trending in the wrong direction. Maybe it was just one of those games.  But a good coach can, and should, fix that over the course of a season.  
 

I don’t really see any reason why this team can’t improve their play and reel off some wins. To make the tourney realistically we’d probably have to battle back to like 9-11 in conference and then pull off a couple wins in the BTT.  
 

You know who did that? Mike Woodson was able to accomplish that. And yea he had TJD, but he also had the motley crew of XJ, Miller Kopp and Parker Stewart soaking up a ton of mins.  
 

People have pointed to Golden as the outlier who didn’t win right away. And that’s true. But looking at his season a little closer shows they played 6 tourney team’s nonconf. and lost them all. He had one of the toughest noncon schedules in the country that year. Then he went into the SEC—that got 8/14 teams in the tourney—and scratched out a .500 league record. Had they had IU’s noncon schedule this year (one of the easiest) it’s likely they have 2-3 more wins and might have been a fringe bubble team. 

Both Woody and Golden won some big conference games nobody expected them to win, too. So if Devries is the guy to build this thing back up, albeit slower than we want, why wouldn’t he be able to coach this team up and give us a fighting chance to get in the tourney?

That's why I asked Usps earlier about what he saw between now and the older Drake teams.  He kind of came to the same conclusion -- execution sucks. 

Now while I agree a good coach should be able to get that fixed as the season goes on.  My issue is the season is half over.  We have had long breaks between games over the December holidays.  That's the time to get things fixed, no?  Trying to do it now, when you play twice a week is going to be difficult.   

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

The problem is this sets us a year behind

In the old way I would have agreed with you but in this new age of college basketball I personally don’t think a bad year sets you back anymore even in a coaches first year at a place.   I used gates as an example.  In his first year at Missouri he killed it and went 25-10 and made the tourney.   Second year he went winless in the sec and 8-24 overall.  3rd year back to 20 + wins and the tourney.   Crazy times nowadays in the college athletics 

[Josh]

To everyone complaining about this thread, this thread keeps all the other threads clean of this discussion.  So you're welcome 

[Golfman25]

34 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

In the old way I would have agreed with you but in this new age of college basketball I personally don’t think a bad year sets you back anymore even in a coaches first year at a place.   I used gates as an example.  In his first year at Missouri he killed it and went 25-10 and made the tourney.   Second year he went winless in the sec and 8-24 overall.  3rd year back to 20 + wins and the tourney.   Crazy times nowadays in the college athletics 

In the old days, a bad first year would set you back 3 or 4 years because you had to recruit and develop high school players.  In the new age, it will still set you back, but only that next year.  Players, especially transfers with limited windows left, want to go somewhere they know they'll win and compete for conference championships and make a run in the tourney.  The money is part of it, but all high level athletes want to win as well -- at least the ones I want on my team.  

Gates go in, turned things around and could sell that success to future recruits.  Even though year 2 was difficult, he still had something to refer back to and got back to 20+ wins.  

In Devries situation, he wont have that if this team fails to make the tournament.  He'll need to convince a new crop of players to come in and fight to make the tourney.  If I am a player, I am skeptical until is see results.  

[Uspshoosier]

46 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

The money is part of it, but all high level athletes want to win as well -- at least the ones I want on my team.  

Personally I think that’s overblown.   Kids go where the money is now but kids go where they have a connection with the coaches.   Some really good players over the years have gone to non contenders.  If Wilkerson wanted to go to a title contender he should have went to Kentucky instead of coming to a program with a new coach in place.  There will definitely be kids that will want for a chance to play at the highest level however there will always be kids that want to go where they fit.   Also most these high level kids have egos and feel they will be the different in making a team a contender.   Most recruits don’t really pay attention to college games during their high school season.  They are too busy playing video games or following NBA 

[spe317]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

Well, we’ve certainly put ourselves behind the 8 ball. USPS lays it out well in the bracket thread. 
 

With that said…I went back and watched portions of Saturday’s game to see if it was really that bad or if it was being over blown.  Cliffs notes: it was really that bad. 
 

But it wasn’t necessarily bad in the way it’s being portrayed by some who just want to scrap the year and give Devries his “do over” next year because of the roster.  Yes, the roster has real flaws, but beyond that our execution and overall level of play was really bad. Just atrocious, at times. Maybe we’re trending in the wrong direction. Maybe it was just one of those games.  But a good coach can, and should, fix that over the course of a season.  
 

I don’t really see any reason why this team can’t improve their play and reel off some wins. To make the tourney realistically we’d probably have to battle back to like 9-11 in conference and then pull off a couple wins in the BTT.  
 

You know who did that? Mike Woodson was able to accomplish that. And yea he had TJD, but he also had the motley crew of XJ, Miller Kopp and Parker Stewart soaking up a ton of mins.  
 

People have pointed to Golden as the outlier who didn’t win right away. And that’s true. But looking at his season a little closer shows they played 6 tourney team’s nonconf. and lost them all. He had one of the toughest noncon schedules in the country that year. Then he went into the SEC—that got 8/14 teams in the tourney—and scratched out a .500 league record. Had they had IU’s noncon schedule this year (one of the easiest) it’s likely they have 2-3 more wins and might have been a fringe bubble team. 

Both Woody and Golden won some big conference games nobody expected them to win, too. So if Devries is the guy to build this thing back up, albeit slower than we want, why wouldn’t he be able to coach this team up and give us a fighting chance to get in the tourney?

No offense but I don’t believe you should be taking cliff notes from Clif Marshall. He thinks we should still be using a sandbox. 

[BA47591]

There are things we could do better. The game plan right now appears to be, get up a lot of shots, make more 3s than the other team does and play a scrappy brand of positional defense. 

Ultimately our problem is lack of a counter. We don't have the horses to do that. Tucker is a terrible athlete, Lamar can be contained and our pg struggles with control issues. I still think we can go .500 in conference.  That probably doesn't get us in the dance, but missing the tourney could be advantageous. We need to get to the off-season as fast as possible.  

[Hoosier DaDa]

On 1/17/2026 at 8:05 PM, Golfman25 said:

Things that are overplayed:

1) The IU fans are the problem 

2) Getting rid of a coach “too soon” is the problem 

3) Cheerleader uniforms 

4) All we need is NIL money 

Don't forget:

5) Drop ceilings 

6) Need to switch to Nike

7) Cliff Marshall is the reason why we can't shot 

[str8baller]

On 1/19/2026 at 3:57 PM, spe317 said:

No offense but I don’t believe you should be taking cliff notes from Clif Marshall. He thinks we should still be using a sandbox. 

You jest, but I’d love some real stats on our injury rate. Seems like we have it more than most. Add it to the list of challenges facing the program.

[BA47591]

Will we have the financial support for basketball necessary to right this ship? Mark Cuban eluded to it indirectly when taking about his support of the football team. To paraphrase 'making a smart investment with my money.' 

Honestly,  no one's favorite choice, to include my top two or three, are doing particularly well right now. I never thought I'd say this in my lifetime, "We'll probably never be the team our football team has been the last two years." Different sport but 27-2 and a natty??? Plus it generates more revenue. Is it possible that Cig put the final nail in our basketball team? If so, maybe we deserved it. Not as fans, but as a program. I think DD is a good coach, but great coach ,,,not really. But we haven't been worthy of much more for a long time. Our administration fell off the dumbfk truck and landed in a pile of Cignetti and is going to look great because of it, but the process around our flagship sport has been abysmal since Myles Brand. 

Now I'll go watch this guaranteed alliteration as my hope for a return to "the old days" peacefully crosses over the rainbow Bridge. 

[Brass Cannon]

Not sure we match the football team and get 16 wins this year 

[Solsberryberries]

Good gravy…

After watching 3 months of uninspired, undisciplined and soft Indiana basketball I thought to myself, “I’m guessing there’s a ‘Fire DeVries’ thread on Btownbanners”… and here it is.

 

To me, Darian DeVries is a lesser proven basketball version of Kalen DeBoer- he has some good ideas but seems to lack the toughness required to hold a team accountable to clear expectations.

 

Just a few random thoughts on CDD and this team.

1.)  This is a new era of college basketball.  If a coach fails at roster construction on the fly, they fail.  Interestingly enough, many IU fans scoffed at the idea of Brad Brownell coaching their Hoosiers.  They are 16-4 and 6-1 in the ACC.  Since the portal and NIL era as we know it he has averaged almost 25 games and looks like he’ll come close to that this year while having 10 new guys on this roster.  
 

DeVries first roster is atrocious.  Giving Tucker the lion’s share of NIL is a sham at this point.  How can our number 1 guy be 25 lbs overweight in January.

 

2.) As evidenced by the laughter on our bench at the end of the game, these guys don’t SEEM to be bothered by losing.  I could be wrong, but…

 

3.)  You can’t fool Indiana fans and unfortunately CDD will not have a 2nd chance to make a first impression.

4.)  Coaching leashes are going to be much shorter in college sports in the NIL era.  Either you have it, or you don’t.  I’m not saying he’s gone after this year, but he needs to turn this around fast in the portal.

5.)  You only get one chance to make one first impression with recruits.  Guys will still come to get a bag of money, but this caliber of basketball isn’t going to bring in team oriented guys that make winning and winning fast happen.  It takes way more than NBA talent-  just ask Rutgers from last year.

 

 

 

 

[TheWatShot]

Why do we always give new coaches massive buyouts? Is it because:

1) We really think someone will try to poach them if they're successful

2) Everyone else does it, or 

3) We want to protect them from their own failures