Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Unexpectedflash]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I don’t know about loaded. A lot of mid majors we hope translates. I generally believe shooting translates. I’m excited about Wilkerson, DeVries. I think Conerwell will be interesting on defense. Idk. Miles looks the part somewhat but played on a bad team. Bailey looks like he’ll be fun on offense. Does it translate against taller, better athletes? Just a lot of questions, as there always will be.

The computers that do a fairly good job of stacking us up versus other teams has us around 40. Seems about right, I suppose.

A team that plays for each other though can make waves. That’s the hope.


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Feel like our team is still so incomplete to look at computers. There’s still like 6 schollys open. Teams like Kentucky have filled up  their entire 14. Hypothetically adding Federico and getting goode back gets us up to around 25-26ish on Bart torviks roster cast. I think if we’re a top 25 team our first year I’ll be very happy

[Stuhoo]

I have two thoughts that seem contradictory but are actually congruent:

1) I am very interested in the pieces that CDD thinks are worthy and their quality and stats.

Yet ultimately 

2) I don’t give a rat’s @$$ how well-regarded our new players are. I just care how well they play together and how much they WIN.

[Demo]

17 minutes ago, Blue 2 Green said:

What am I missing about Blake Harper?  His numbers are pretty comparable to Elyjah Freeman's at a little higher usage and against division I athletes.  Still, he doesn't seem to be getting a lot of interest from high majors.  Being from D.C. I would've thought he would have been one of Kenny Johnson's first calls and even more so after Freeman chose Auburn.  Harper may not have Freeman's athleticism but he has grown five inches in less than two years and might need more time to get used to his frame in order to reach his ceiling.  He might even still be growing.  DeVries' old boss got him to visit Omaha so playing close to home might not be the deal breaker it was once thought to be.  Anyone?

Been paying some attention to that one too for the same reasons you have. I have no idea what the scoop is there, but given how few high majors have been attached to him, and none of them are the local schools, I imagine it’s 1 of 2 things: 1) sky high financial expectations or, 2) something not strictly on-court related that’s not passing muster with some people. Can’t really see a kid with 3 years of eligibility not more in play unless something’s making people say woah. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I have two thoughts that seem contradictory but are actually congruent:

1) I am very interested in the pieces that CDD thinks are worthy and their quality and stats.

Yet ultimately 

2) I don’t give a rat’s @$$ how well-regarded our new players are. I just care how well they play together and how much they WIN.

100%

[steubenhoosier]

12 minutes ago, Demo said:

Been paying some attention to that one too for the same reasons you have. I have no idea what the scoop is there, but given how few high majors have been attached to him, and none of them are the local schools, I imagine it’s 1 of 2 things: 1) sky high financial expectations or, 2) something not strictly on-court related that’s not passing muster with some people. Can’t really see a kid with 3 years of eligibility not more in play unless something’s making people say woah. 

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/inside-look-at-life-as-one-of-the-most-tampered-with-players-in-college-basketball
 

Sounds like a great young man with a good head on his shoulders. His dad has coached him and has lots of connections in the college coaching world. Hopefully, KJ is one of them 

[tyappleg]

9 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/inside-look-at-life-as-one-of-the-most-tampered-with-players-in-college-basketball
 

Sounds like a great young man with a good head on his shoulders. His dad has coached him and has lots of connections in the college coaching world. Hopefully, KJ is one of them 

 

[BA47591]

Can we call Baye Ndongo of Georgia Tech and offer him a load of money. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I have two thoughts that seem contradictory but are actually congruent:

1) I am very interested in the pieces that CDD thinks are worthy and their quality and stats.

Yet ultimately 

2) I don’t give a rat’s @$$ how well-regarded our new players are. I just care how well they play together and how much they WIN.

Year 1 means everything these days. If he doesn’t get preseason hype started, that is fine. It doesn’t look like he will. To me, cracking preseason top 25 would be enough. I don’t think he does that. Then he better have a great season. Narrative will form early. Can’t get off on the wrong front. I think he’s trying to recruit “we” players instead of “me” players.

 

I think part of the “sell” is the brand and preseason rankings are part of that.

 

Like you say, if he wins it should start projecting forward. If not recruiting only gets harder.

 

 

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I'll worry about how we stack up against other teams or whether we will be "a long way off" from other teams when the roster is full.

So far, I like what has been brought in. Now, I will just wait on the completion of the roster

 

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[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

DeVries certainly isn’t splashy.  Gonna be interesting to see if what he’s building is good enough.  Computers got us hovering around 30-40.   Might be able to break top 25 with the right finishing moves.  

Would be nice to start high as computers are a factor throughout. However it looks like we will have to earn it.  
 

Wilkerson was Splashy, but no way our roster has any appearance of a top 10 paid roster.  I find it interesting despite apparently having the resources.  
 

I’ll be honest I love an off-season where we are talked about on all the pods and national circles.  Part of that is coach respect.  We’ve got a rebuild of sorts going on here still.  
 

 

In terms of splash, On3 has IU bringing in the 15th, 31st, 34th, and 96th rated transfers.  15th is Tucker Devries, the others are from mid/low majors.  But mid/low majors don't necessarily equate to lack of splash, just they are players you weren't familiar with until the transfer portal.

Would you call the following group splashy?

Isaac McNeely (Virginia)

Rodney Rice (Maryland)

Morez Johnson (Illinois)

Rakease Passmore (Kansas)

Because that group of four are the P5 players directly below the 15th, 31st, 34th, and 96th rated transfers.

[RaceToTheTop]

49 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

 

Have to say realistically it's Creighton, Ohio State, and LSU.  Howard just thrown in there for sentimental's sake.

[Home Jersey]

Apparently (per Twitter) this guy was mentioned on Trilly’s discord as one to keep an eye on for IU fans. Class of 2024 #81 overall #13 PF

[Okram]

17 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Apparently (per Twitter) this guy was mentioned on Trilly’s discord as one to keep an eye on for IU fans. Class of 2024 #81 overall #13 PF

Interesting.  He announced he would return to LSU on April 11th. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Rabby alluded to there being more visits this week but didn’t say who 

[Paye32]

Malcolm in the middle? Led the nation in shot blocks...

[Asha’man]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Year 1 means everything these days. If he doesn’t get preseason hype started, that is fine. It doesn’t look like he will. To me, cracking preseason top 25 would be enough. I don’t think he does that. Then he better have a great season. Narrative will form early. Can’t get off on the wrong front. I think he’s trying to recruit “we” players instead of “me” players.

 

I think part of the “sell” is the brand and preseason rankings are part of that.

 

Like you say, if he wins it should start projecting forward. If not recruiting only gets harder.

 

 

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Neither Michigan or Louisville had preseason hype. They made their own hype with their play. We need to win games not the press conference or the preseason hype. We will be competitive and we shall see how it goes. But DeVries record shows he knows how to win. Have some confidence. 

[JaybobHoosier]

3 hours ago, Asha’man said:

Long way off from who? Guess it depends on expectations for year 1. I just want to safely be in the dance. But I also bet DeVries wants to make a run as it’s his son’s last year. He is taking players to make a team and coach them up. 
 

I think as we get rolling with high school recruiting then things will stabilize but so far I see a roster that’s only half put together and the computers have us ranked where we should expect to be in the dance. Let’s see how the rest fills out. 
 

Also, go look at all the star rankings for Purdue. They are mediocre. Yet Painter knows how to build a team and they will be a top team next year. It’s not about stats if you know what you’re looking for. We will find out this fall if coach got it right or not. But his track record is one of success. 

Said it perfectly! Coach is building a team to compete, not just collect talent. He knows how to put together a team, and has been successful at doing so. Little resources/talent at Drake and lost 2 of his top players at WV, and still had success. 
 

I’m not saying the 1st year will be perfect, and I’m on record saying a tournament birth isn’t necessary in year 1. However, I think coach is doing a good job navigating a lot of stuff. A mess of things from the past 8+ years, and he was only at WV one year, didn’t have a ton of time building relationships with recruits and teams. A turnaround might take a him a little time, and coach deserves our patience!

[TheWatShot]

10 minutes ago, JaybobHoosier said:

 

I’m not saying the 1st year will be perfect, and I’m on record saying a tournament birth isn’t necessary in year 1.

Man, I don't know about this. Imagine how toxic this place will be if we're looking at 3 straight years of no tournament. 

[OGIUAndy]

24 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Man, I don't know about this. Imagine how toxic this place will be if we're looking at 3 straight years of no tournament. 

Yeah, I would say it's pretty much necessary to be honest. A good coach should be able to get us in the tournament relatively easily too. 

[Unexpectedflash]

We better make the tourney. It’s a different time than when Archie was coach. Good coaches are good in year one now. Can’t be one of the teams spending 10 million on a roster and then miss the tourney. With those resources come a certain level of expectations