Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[wirenuts]

20 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

ok.. got..to ...say...it..

as long as Dorn doesn't give any of that "olay bulls*it" while playing this coming season...

Hats for bats....keep bats warm

[Hoosier987]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I think it does.

We’ve got a mid major all star team going, literally.

DeVries is trying to be the Cignetti of college hoops. I hope it works and translates.

I think these kids will be hungry and coachable.

We are getting our targets. Will it end up being enough to crack the top 25?


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If we land Federiko I think we’re in preseason top 25

[Mopladysman]

26 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

ok.. got..to ...say...it..

as long as Dorn doesn't give any of that "olay bulls*it" while playing this coming season...

Let’s hope he’s smart enough to not take his side piece up the elevator on the live tv.  

[str8baller]

24 minutes ago, Okram said:

He visited UNC and Maryland. Gonzaga was going all in and wanted him to visit after Indiana. 

Remember when people were worried IU didn’t have any money? Dude visited a couple big dogs then signed with IU and told Gonzaga “stay poor.” lol…

[steubenhoosier]

Remember 11 days ago when people were panicking because we had no commitments?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Remember 11 days ago when people were panicking because we had no commitments?

Everyone knew we’d get commitments. The debate about the quality of the roster still persists. We are 30-40 ranked roster. Will we overachieve? Let’s hope. But it’s not a statement to the college basketball world that we mean business. It’s blue collar approach to roster building. It’s optimistic but it’s still just optimism for a new style and coach.

Michigan and Louisville were a success in this way last year. Maybe Indiana will be next. Maybe not.


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[Rico]

1 minute ago, steubenhoosier said:

Remember 11 days ago when people were panicking because we had no commitments?

11 days from now people will be talking about a possible FF appearance with our new team...

[WayneFleekHoosier]

If we land Federiko I think we’re in preseason top 25

Torvik puts us at 21 with Federico, Baba Miller, and Dorn. But other teams will add and jump too.

Not sure what we can do to get in the top 25 with this start. Maybe Sorber. Maybe the Greek kid.

Prove it year incoming for DeVries.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Torvik puts us at 21 with Federico, Baba Miller, and Dorn. But other teams will add and jump too.

Not sure what we can do to get in the top 25 with this start. Maybe Sorber. Maybe the Greek kid.

Prove it year incoming for DeVries.


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Did sorber actually ever end up in the portal? I guess that pipedream is over.


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[Asha’man]

12 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

Everyone knew we’d get commitments. The debate about the quality of the roster still persists. We are 30-40 ranked roster. Will we overachieve? Let’s hope. But it’s not a statement to the college basketball world that we mean business. It’s blue collar approach to roster building. It’s optimistic but it’s still just optimism for a new style and coach.

Michigan and Louisville were a success in this way last year. Maybe Indiana will be next. Maybe not.


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It really is a crapshoot and I recommend not putting any stock in any preseason ratings. I’m optimistic bc I think these players for what DDV wants to do as a team. But just because some random preseason poll or torvik rating says one thing doesn’t mean that a team overachieves by doing well. It means that the rankings and torvik preseason ratings are trash. Torvik and kenpom ratings are great the further into the season you go. Typically not worth the time other than talking points before the season. 

[IndyHoosier1997]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

 

Torvik puts us at 21 with Federico, Baba Miller, and Dorn. But other teams will add and jump too.

Not sure what we can do to get in the top 25 with this start. Maybe Sorber. Maybe the Greek kid.

Prove it year incoming for DeVries.


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Are we using preseason computer rankings to determine whether a teams roster is good or not? 
 

You’re collecting for the most part 13 players who’ve never played together under a coach they’ve never played for, sorry but the computer rankings are somewhat useless to what DeVries is going for. 

[Home Jersey]

23 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Everyone knew we’d get commitments. The debate about the quality of the roster still persists. We are 30-40 ranked roster. Will we overachieve? Let’s hope. But it’s not a statement to the college basketball world that we mean business. It’s blue collar approach to roster building. It’s optimistic but it’s still just optimism for a new style and coach.

Michigan and Louisville were a success in this way last year. Maybe Indiana will be next. Maybe not.


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There absolutely is a fair question about quality of the roster - and will be until we see them on the court. 

At the same time, the roster rankings just mean nothing to me after last year's "#1 haul" in the portal ... 

IMO next year's team could easily show they're far more talented than this past year's. 

And while the computers may rank us at 30-40, the roster people were hyped about last year doesn't look so good now. 

247 lists last year's class and this year's class (so far) both having 8 incoming recruits. 

• Outgoing players rankings: 4 four stars, 3 three stars, one no star (Dallas James lol)
• Incoming player rankings: 7 four stars, one no star (Deuce with multiple years of eligibility) 

I am thrilled with the blue collar approach to roster building.

Couldn't care less about making statements to the CBB world right now. 

We have to earn it / prove it on the court. Then we can make statements. 

All sizzle no steak is more the of a pUKe thing, IMO 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

There absolutely is a fair question about quality of the roster - and will be until we see them on the court. 

At the same time, the roster rankings just mean nothing to me after last year's "#1 haul" in the portal ... 

IMO next year's team could easily show they're far more talented than this past year's. 

And while the computers may rank us at 30-40, the roster people were hyped about last year doesn't look so good now. 

247 lists last year's class and this year's class (so far) both having 8 incoming recruits. 

• Outgoing players rankings: 4 four stars, 3 three stars, one no star (Dallas James lol)
• Incoming player rankings: 7 four stars, one no star (Deuce with multiple years of eligibility) 

I am thrilled with the blue collar approach to roster building.

Couldn't care less about making statements to the CBB world right now. 

We have to earn it / prove it on the court. Then we can make statements. 

All sizzle no stake is more the of a pUKe thing, IMO 

Fair enough. His vision is clear at least. Gambling on his scout on mid majors. I like the approach so far. Just in no way a bragging rights type of roster. We will see a fair amount of 5 out basketball and that’ll be fun if we can defend. I’m all in for it. Why not. He’s doing his thing and not trying to appease the fans. I think that’s important too. Just hope it works.

 

 

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[str8baller]

15 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

Everyone knew we’d get commitments. The debate about the quality of the roster still persists. We are 30-40 ranked roster. Will we overachieve? Let’s hope. But it’s not a statement to the college basketball world that we mean business. It’s blue collar approach to roster building. It’s optimistic but it’s still just optimism for a new style and coach.

Michigan and Louisville were a success in this way last year. Maybe Indiana will be next. Maybe not.


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That’s fair and ultimately on CDD. But the people who didn’t believe IU was shelling out cash (strangely after we literally proved it last year with Woody) were simply being myopic to a fault. 
 

Will these guys work out? Who knows…but at this point it seems coach has the resources he needs to go out and get the guys he wants. We’re approaching 8 or 9 guys who were sought after with a big and maybe Goode to be added yet, at a minimum. IU is apparently stacking cash for these guys. Hopefully CDD can coach them up. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Are we using preseason computer rankings to determine whether a teams roster is good or not? 
 
You’re collecting for the most part 13 players who’ve never played together under a coach they’ve never played for, sorry but the computer rankings are somewhat useless to what DeVries is going for. 

It’s one metric that we can actually use. It’s not useless. It was pretty strong last season actually in most cases.


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[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

It’s one metric that we can actually use. It’s not useless. It was pretty strong last season actually in most cases.


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Two years ago it projected Peyton Sparks to play more than 20 mph and Malik Reneau to play 18 mpg

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Two years ago it projected Peyton Sparks to play more than 20 mph and Malik Reneau to play 18 mpg

And instead, Peyton Sparks played at 5 miles per hour.

[Home Jersey]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Fair enough. His vision is clear at least. Gambling on his scout on mid majors. I like the approach so far. Just in no way a bragging rights type of roster. We will see a fair amount of 5 out basketball and that’ll be fun if we can defend. I’m all in for it. Why not. He’s doing his thing and not trying to appease the fans. I think that’s important too. Just hope it works.

 

 

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For sure. If the team wins, he will look like a genius of course.

But all coaches have scouting misses, it happens to the best of 'em. Hurley / Mahaney, Pitino not taking Clayton with him to SJU from Iona (assuming Clayton was willing?) Hubert Davis whiffed big time on Cade Tyson. Woody arguably whiffed on half the roster last year ... it's not an infrequent thing in the transfer portal era especially. 

Odds are not all of these guys will be as productive as they were in mid-majors, but I think DDV has a clear vision like you said and was part of turning around / building Creighton, and can get these guys to play as a team better than their individual talent. But they're going to have to show us that. In the meanwhile, we speculate and hope for a foreign trip to be arranged.

Can't wait for the DDV era to really get started. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Two years ago it projected Peyton Sparks to play more than 20 mph and Malik Reneau to play 18 mpg

I get sunshine pumping. But if University X put this roster together and we as Indiana fans looked at it from the outside we wouldn’t bat an eye. Doesn’t mean much, but it means something in its own right.

We clearly will need to outperform expectations for most of us to be happy.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Oof…


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