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1 minute ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I wasn’t able to join today, anyone care to give the the highlights? 

Dozens of pages to get back to right where we were: Nobody knows if Woody will last. BP may or may not be interested in IU. IU may or may not be interested in BP. 
 

The idea that there’s a rift between Dolson and Buckner seems to have picked up steam.  
 

Dakich is still aggrieved nobody listens to him. 

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First, you guys are hilarious. Reading the pages I missed on a long travel day is great.  I guess I missed the chance to drop the bomb that coaches were informed yesterday that Woody is being ret

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First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're

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The “compromise” by Dolson to let this go down this way saved us some good cash on the buyout. Lot of litigation today. Make no mistake about it, this was not Woody’s decision to retire. 

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3 hours ago, Tom White said:

You expect this governor to listen? I don't.

lol. Not going to turn this into a political thread but to answer your question…. If enough ppl are in his ear about this topic then I think he would. He is a massive basketball fan in general and wants to see all the state schools do well athletically. 

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2 hours ago, Magisterium said:

From my brief experience as a low-level employee in an SEC Ath department decades ago, most buyouts originate from donors since they typically aren’t considered “salary “ or “compensation” in the sense of belonging in the same lines of a university’s budget. But that’s not ironclad, as Jimbo Fisher’s buyout proves.

The raise/buyout info re: Woodson was public record info ever since it was announced a year ago, and as soon as I saw it I thought “Dolson’s trading a smaller total buyout amount on April 1st of 2025 for the opportunity to amortize a larger buyout amount over 8 years OR (given Woodson’s age) another opportunity to renegotiate the new buyout amount down.”

Reading what few actual tea leaves seem to be out there at the moment, I get the impression that 1) Dolson wants to move on, 2) Buckner wants to stay put, and 3) Pres Whitten may not yet want to be involved (but may soon have to be nonetheless). I have no idea if Pearl (or, more accurately, Pearl’s agent) is now involved, or if Dusty May’s representatives have been fully engaged, but perhaps things have reached some sort of standoff between the folks who want Woodson retained (Buckner, Cooks, Simons, some former players?) and those who strongly feel a change needs to be made (possibly Dolson, some other donors, some other former players, most of the fanbase?).

If that’s where matters are at this point in time, history tells me that some sort of exogenous or “outside” event may have to happen to break the stalemate. It seems to me that the most likely event fitting that description might come from the  one group directly embroiled in this that possibly has the least concern about what the BOT and donors think: players on the current roster.

If enough rumors are true and a “critical mass” of players plan to leave AND Dolson can convince others of that likelihood, maybe that could break the logjam and persuade Pres Whitten, enough donors, and if not QB himself then enough other Trustees, that the status quo is no longer sustainable, and as a result could possibly force the change that so many of us feel is desperately needed.

If such a chain of events led to Bruce Pearl, so be it. If it brought home a “native son” like Dusty May, so be it. If I could talk with either of them for 5 minutes I would say “whatever else you do, hire ASAP someone like Matt Graves on your staff because in-state recruiting is on life support and he can do the CPR necessary to revive it.”

 

 

Trilly just called this a pretty good summary of the situation

Edit: he also said he's told a "majority" of the teams production would portal if MW is retained

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Trilly just called this a pretty good summary of the situation

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15 minutes ago, Feathery said:

lol. Not going to turn this into a political thread but to answer your question…. If enough ppl are in his ear about this topic then I think he would. He is a massive basketball fan in general and wants to see all the state schools do well athletically. 

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12 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

The raise/buyout info re: Woodson was public record info ever since it was announced a year ago, and as soon as I saw it I thought “Dolson’s trading a smaller total buyout amount on April 1st of 2025 for the opportunity to amortize a larger buyout amount over 8 years OR (given Woodson’s age) another opportunity to renegotiate the new buyout amount down.”

This part I still don’t get, and maybe it’s because I have my numbers messed up. 
 

But without the raise/extension you could finance $4mil over 4ish years cheaper than giving him $1mil/yr for 8 years. It also doesn’t explain why you would give a guy a raise after a fairly routine season.  
 

Otherwise, I find that comment as insightful as any in this thread. 

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1 hour ago, Herotime said:

I did! When I saw I had 12 pages to work through I got VERY excited. Now that dinner is over I need everyone to pick up the slack and get me another hit of dopamine!!!

lol, your going to need it if you keep reading 

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15 minutes ago, str8baller said:

This part I still don’t get, and maybe it’s because I have my numbers messed up. 
 

But without the raise/extension you could finance $4mil over 4ish years cheaper than giving him $1mil/yr for 8 years. It also doesn’t explain why you would give a guy a raise after a fairly routine season.  
 

Otherwise, I find that comment as insightful as any in this thread. 

I originally thought it was a Dolson thing... but now seems more like a Buckner helping out a friend thing.

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1 minute ago, Crazy about IU said:

I don’t know if Pearl is using us to get more of what he wants at Auburn. But watching him coach on the sidelines is a joy. He is so into the games he gives it everything he has. I am 100% on board with him being our next coach. 

Me too!  I would take him in a heartbeat but part of me thinks he’s using it for leverage 

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8 minutes ago, Crazy about IU said:

I don’t know if Pearl is using us to get more of what he wants at Auburn. But watching him coach on the sidelines is a joy. He is so into the games he gives it everything he has. I am 100% on board with him being our next coach. 

I'm already at the point where I'm envisioning him on our sideline.  I'm so ready to get hurt again.

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