They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Pagoda]

8-3, but $6M roster and #48 on KenPom and #63 in the NET.  It's hard to start much worse than this.

[OKHOOSIER]

1 hour ago, iu eyedoc said:

Let this sink in.

 

Woodson's career

Quadrant 1

Home games against teams ranked 1–30, neutral games against teams ranked 1–50, and away games against teams ranked 1–75 

 

Quadrant 1 14-31 record   14 and freaking 31!

 

Quadrant 2

Home games against teams ranked 31–75, neutral games against teams ranked 51–100, and away games against teams ranked 76–135

Quadrant 2 18- 10 record  slightly better chance than not he beats a top 75 team

Quadrant 3

Home games against teams ranked 76–160, neutral games against teams ranked 101–200, and away games against teams ranked 136–240

Quadrant 3 17-2 record  Almost never loses to teams ranked near 200

Quadrant 4

Home games against teams ranked 161–353, neutral games against teams ranked 201–353, and away games against teams ranked 241–353

Quadrant 4 22-0 record    put money on Cream and Crimson vs bottom 25o teams

 

Really interesting data Doc. Now do Quadrant 1 wins without TJD in the lineup lmao bet that gets interesting. 

[go iu bb]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

AH1971 is the most annoying poster ever in my opinion. He acted like he had it all figured out and the rest of us was wrong.

Ever? You must be new here. NGW comes to mind as someone even worse and there have been a few others.

[Kentuckysucks]

41 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

This. The time to let somebody go is when you realize they aren’t the guy.  If you weren’t the person for your job at work. Would they arbitrarily wait till March to fire you. Hell no.  

But this is IU.  We learn the coach isn’t the guy and then wait another 2-3 years before the firing.  It’s the Indiana way.

[HoosierHoopster]

Ok I have changed my opinion about Woodson:

Even Archie Miller was (is) a better coach.

[Hoosier DaDa]

8 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Ever? You must be new here. NGW comes to mind as someone even worse and there have been a few others.

Been around a long time NGW was bad but I really was annoyed with AH1971

[Kentuckysucks]

2 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Ok I have changed my opinion about Woodson:

Even Archie Miller was (is) a better coach.

At this point I’d take Dakich.

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

But this is IU.  We learn the coach isn’t the guy and then wait another 2-3 years before the firing.  It’s the Indiana way.

Have to let them destroy whatever foundation there may be, the next coach has to have a built in excuse.

[IUFAN1976]

13 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Really interesting data Doc. Now do Quadrant 1 wins without TJD in the lineup lmao bet that gets interesting. 

TJD carried MW and was one of the best players in IU history!  Should have been drafted much higher than he was!  I would bet the winning percentage goes way way down

[Kentuckysucks]

3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

TJD carried MW and was one of the best players in IU history!  Should have been drafted much higher than he was!  I would bet the winning percentage goes way way down

I’m not sure Woodson would’ve seen year 3 had Trayce left when Archie was fired.

[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I’m not sure Woodson would’ve seen year 3 had Trayce left when Archie was fired.

He 100% would have seen year 3. He could've been winless the first 2 years and short some of scandal year 3 would be guaranteed.

[Brass Cannon]

3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

He 100% would have seen year 3. He could've been winless the first 2 years and short some of scandal year 3 would be guaranteed.

You are right. Which is really just further proof we don’t have standards.  

[TTT]

Don’t blame any of this on Pam Whitten.  One high profile major athletic hire. = Cignetti.  Put Pam Whitten in charge of hiring next IU basketball coach.

She has been an excellent representative in appearances at many IU athletic events.

[IUCrazy2]

1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

Reason to move now rather then end of season is to hopefully give someone a chance with these guys to change it up. I don't believe anything positive can be gained staying in this toxic situation we are in currently. We are bleeding off the diehard fans now! who are these true fans I would love to know?

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So I actually somewhat agree with Tyme.  There is a deeper issue than just Woodson.  There is an issue in the administration with the people who placed him in his position.  If we believe that Dolson was forced to accept Woodson by these people, I think letting this season bottom out may be the best course of action.  It would help to neuter the people who installed Woodson when it comes to picking the next guy.  "You know what?" everyone else thinks, "We let Dolson do his job unencumbered with football and we ended up in the CFP.  Maybe you guys sit this one out and let him do what we pay him to do."  I don't know if that happens if this season is saved.  You need Buckner and Ferguson and the money guys sidelined a bit.

[Hoosier987]

1 hour ago, mdiu28 said:

Dolson has given himself a ton of leverage and power with the Cignetti hire. If donors have to choose between Woody and Dolson - the answer is simple - Woody needs to go.

Listen, Woody is really sucking….but I don’t think this is going to be a foregone conclusion.  As long as Woody has Buckner backing him….it could be very tough to move on.

Again, force Buckner to sit in the front row until this is fixed.

[Hoosierfan2017]

46 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

AH1971 is the most annoying poster ever in my opinion. He acted like he had it all figured out and the rest of us was wrong.

Dude has been exposed as much as Mike Woodson this year. He puffed his chest 24/7 this summer and was incredibly abrasive, and then he went into hiding after the Louisville game. It reconfirms my theory that he was a Woodson plant. 

[Hoosier987]

57 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Exactly, that is why I said nothing is guaranteed except death and taxes!  He ain’t leaving on his own free will and he will go out kicking and screaming.  Although I’ve never had to deal with them but from what I have read, cockroaches and bedbugs are hard to get rid of and I definitely can compare MW to them when it comes to the University and basketball program

Exactly…I don’t think Woodson is just going to leave and him being fired is not a foregone conclusion with Buckner backing him. 
What makes anyone think that Buckner cares? 

[IU Prof]

2 hours ago, Pagoda said:

Archie is bad, but there is no way Woody could do at Dayton what Archie did.

Woody could be the worst coach in D1 this year.  Top-5 NIL and he's on the bubble... I can't think of anyone else with such a mismatch of resources to results.

The only reason IU is "on the bubble" is due to pre-season rankings. If this were, say, Eastern Michigan with the same resume, they wouldn't even be on the radar.

In another month or so, IU won't still be getting the benefit of the doubt based on being overrated in the preseason.

[Brass Cannon]

Guys we aren’t on the bubble. We aren’t even close to the bubble. And unless you think we can win more games than we lose the rest of way in conference there’s 0 chance.  The season is already over 

[Hoosier987]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Guys we aren’t on the bubble. We aren’t even close to the bubble. And unless you think we can win more games than we lose the rest of way in conference there’s 0 chance.  The season is already over 

And going into the season…anything less than a 2nd weekend top 4 seed was a failure