They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[TadQueasy]

Just now, JF87 said:

My fond memories of Mike Woodson the player are gone.  They have now been overshadowed by Mike Woodson the unqualified coach that used his connections to get the IU coaching job.  Woodson has turned this IU alum and lifelong IU fan indifferent about IU basketball until he's gone and someone new can provide hope. I still care that's why I'm here.  But right now, the only interest I have in this team is getting a new coach and culture. 

This is why a legendary player of a team should never be the HC of that team. Coaches are hired to be fired.  This is why I was glad to see that Ryno was never hired to be a Cubs manager.  It would mess with his legacy as a player.   Woody has suffered that fate.  

[VFury]

Once we get over the fever dream of Brad Stevens and Dusty, and we refuse to get off our moral high horse to hire Chris Beard, we will hire this and be more than happy about it.

[Hoosierfan2017]

14 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

This is how bad decisions get made. The program sucks in its current state, and the fans are so desperate to get away from the epic crapshow that they would be willing to take jumps to places that they would never go if they were allowed to fully contemplate their actions.

When one is in the level of pain (emotional or spiritual) this great, they will grab an anything within reach to alleviate said pain. 

Chris Beard is not the answer.

He’s the answer to the losing problem. He’d 100% do very well here. The only question is whether the baggage/bad PR is worth winning again. I’m sick and tired of IU being such a sorry *** program, so it would be for me. 

[Hoosier DaDa]

35 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

When your back is litterally against the wall throw your players under the buss.

 

I wonder how Woody looks when he is trying to "FIGURE" things out. 

[sirhoosierlot]

11 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Ben Mcollum....this is the way........

[VFury]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He’s the answer to the losing problem. He’d 100% do very well here. The only question is whether the baggage/bad PR is worth winning again. I’m sick and tired of IU being such a sorry *** program, so it would be for me. 

He's always been my number 1 choice, but I just do not believe IU would actually do it, so I've never gotten too excited at the idea of it.

[Hoosier DaDa]

52 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woodson deserves every boo he’s going to get at the Michigan game. He shouldn’t get the option of the “retirement” cop out. He halfa**ed his entire tenure and then launched a smear campaign against the fan base. Make him finish the season out. 

Let the boos rain down on his head.  Mike Woodson is the dark cloud over Bloomington. 

[Ryno6284]

4 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Nah......too much baggage...

 

Ben McCollum

Current position
Title	Head coach
Team	Drake
Conference	MVC
Record	15–2 (.882)
Biographical details
Born	April 12, 1981 (age 43) Iowa City, Iowa, U.S.
Playing career
1999–2001	North Iowa Area CC
2001–2003	Northwest Missouri State
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
2003–2005	Northwest Missouri State (GA)
2005–2009	Emporia State (assistant)
2009–2024	Northwest Missouri State
2024–present	Drake
Head coaching record
Overall	410–93 (.815)
Tournaments	32–7 (NCAA Division II)
Accomplishments and honors
Championships
4× NCAA Division II national champion (2017, 2019, 2021, 2022) 12× MIAA regular season (2012, 2014–2024) 8× MIAA tournament (2016–2020, 2022–2024)
Awards
5× NABC Division II Coach of the Year (2017, 2019–2022) 3× Clarence Gaines Award (2012, 2020, 2022) 5× NABC Division II Central District Coach of the Year (2017, 2019–2022) Basketball Times Division II Coach of the Year (2019) John McLendon Collegiate Basketball Coach of the Year (2019) 8× MIAA Coach of the Year (2012, 2015–2017, 2019–2021, 2023)

That is what fury posted lol

[SlammySammy]

1. Stevens
2. Beard
3. McCollum
4. May

Based on coaching ability only....leaving out drunken wife-beatings...

[SlammySammy]

Just now, Ryno6284 said:

That is what fury posted lol

Yeah, I screwed up so I deleted it LOL

[Artie86]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He’s the answer to the losing problem. He’d 100% do very well here. The only question is whether the baggage/bad PR is worth winning again. I’m sick and tired of IU being such a sorry *** program, so it would be for me. 

I imagine if someone like Beard ended up at IU, his baggage would be magnified in the press and somehow tied to IU hiring/firing Kelvin Sampson after his (impermissable phone calls violations), which seem harmless now.

[OKHOOSIER]

Sitting at work secretly hoping for a Cashy pop in to push us over 2k today. I suspect we get close either way, but if we get a procedural update on current groundswell conditions within the leadership apparatus it’s all but guaranteed. 

[Gameface01]

44 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechil said:

Haha I ran out of characters so couldn’t add the d lol

That's what she said

[Hoosier DaDa]

39 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Taking bets on how many pages we get to before there is official word on Woody being terminated....

I am going to say we hit 2600 before word comes in....

That will all depend on   or AH1971 because when they post rapid fire happens to the page count.

 

Edit: Did a MOD change my post?  

[OldBuddy67]

15 minutes ago, JF87 said:

My fond memories of Mike Woodson the player are gone.  They have now been overshadowed by Mike Woodson the unqualified coach that used his connections to get the IU coaching job.  Woodson has turned this IU alum and lifelong IU fan indifferent about IU basketball until he's gone and someone new can provide hope. I still care that's why I'm here.  But right now, the only interest I have in this team is getting a new coach and culture. 

I'm too young to remember him as a player so that's never been there for me. Appreciate his contributions to our past history but his coaching history is a dark cloud on his and IU basketball's legacy. Regardless, well said!!!!!!!! I'll follow but refuse to watch and get upset as long as he is the coach. Only interest is if Dolson can get a winner!

[Hovadipo]

44 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Haha I ran out of characters so couldn’t add the d lol

Fixed.

[VFury]

1 minute ago, Artie86 said:

I imagine if someone like Beard ended up at IU, his baggage would be magnified in the press and somehow tied to IU hiring/firing Kelvin Sampson after his (impermissable phone calls violations), which seem harmless now.

They were honestly harmless back then too, we for some reason felt the need to flog ourselves over it. Should've just backed him and taken the slap on the wrist, and gotten back to winning in a year.

[Stuhoo]

10 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

1. Stevens
2. Beard
3. McCollum
4. May

Based on coaching ability only....leaving out drunken wife-beatings...

Interesting.

• Three of those four have led a team to an NCAA Final Four
• Two of those have led a mid-major to an NCAA Final Four
• Three of those four have completed a season as a D1 coach
• Three of those four have coached in a P5 conference
• Three of those four have direct recruiting ties in the State of Indiana
• Three of those coaches have, at some point in their career, been the coach of a ranked D1 team
•  

The outlier for every single one of those criteria is McCollum. Before this year at Drake, his resume far more resembled Greg Tonagel than any other serious candidate. After this year, his resume will still probably be far closer to Tonagel's than to Dusty May's.

Finally, FWIW, McCollum has coached a total of three D1 games against NET top 100 teams and zero games against ranked teams in his career.

 

[tyappleg]

Is Chris doing actual work today?  I need a vibe check of the office this morning. 

[IndianaSconnie90]

25 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

The Beard discussion has happened many times on this board, including in this thread, so there's no reason to rehash that.

Well I'm not the one who rehashed it sooooooo