They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Who cares how much we pay if it isn’t your money? 

I don’t care. Simply pointing out the fallacy the otz is unattainable because if his buyout. 

[monskisprodigy]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Other than Chris Mack, I endorse this post. As much as neither would win the press conference, both Cronin and Pitino Jr. would win at a rate that IUBB hasn’t witnessed in 20+ years.

And while Otz would be expensive, he’d be every bit the grand slam home run that Stevens would be.

Looking at Otz record...what made Iowa State want him after going 17-15 Y1 and then 12-15 Y2 at UNLV. I am not familiar with his background, but he jumped from South Dakota State where he won a lot in 3 years, to 2 very mediocre/bad years at UNLV, to Iowa State. 

[AH1971]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah, but we are talking two Sweet 16s vs. two NC games and an NBA championship. I'm OK paying a little more for that, especially when it's not IU's money

10-15 years ago sure. TJ is one of the hottest names going in college basketball right now. Plus, you know, he actually wants to coach in college at the moment.

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, cleeter said:

Easier to put higher dollar amounts into a salary if there is no buyout.

7/70 - 10 a year

6 years at 40 million plus 20 million buyout is 6/60 and 10 a year

10 million a year after all is said and done either way.


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Stevens already turned down $10mil/yr….

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Looking at Otz record...what made Iowa State want him after going 17-15 Y1 and then 12-15 Y2 at UNLV. I am not familiar with his background, but he jumped from South Dakota State where he won a lot in 3 years, to 2 very mediocre/bad years at UNLV, to Iowa State. 

He’s got ties to Iowa State. And every situation is different. Unless you’re at a high major school, raw W-L record isn’t always the best way to gauge a coach.

[tyappleg]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Stevens already turned down $10mil/yr….

Not this time.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

10-15 years ago sure. TJ is one of the hottest names going in college basketball right now. Plus, you know, he actually wants to coach in college at the moment.

Really? A lot of rumors on the ISU board about him bolting to the first available NBA job this summer. Don't know if it's true or not but I don't want to take the risk.

In all seriousness, if we get TJ, I'll hurt myself trying to do a backflip. I like him. I think he's on the list for sure. I have him 3rd or 4th for me. 

[cleeter]

Stevens already turned down $10mil/yr….

You think he turned the job down because of money 4 years ago?


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[IUHAHN81]

I'm a simple fella! My list....

1. Brad Stevens

[OKHOOSIER]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

10-15 years ago sure. TJ is one of the hottest names going in college basketball right now. Plus, you know, he actually wants to coach in college at the moment.

Plus, you know, he also just signed a contract extension through 2032 like 45 days ago, and already had agreed to a top-15 buyout on the 55th highest salary in D1 prior to that extension. Those aren't the actions of someone intent on leaving their current job. TJ coming here is more farcical than Brad Stevens ever was other than him being a current college basketball coach lol

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, cleeter said:

You think he turned the job down because of money 4 years ago?


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Ya. It wasn’t an offer he couldn’t refuse, clearly. Don’t see it any differently this time around. He’s got the comfiest job in basketball.

[Pudman]

Uh oh, Quinn. https://indianapublicmedia.org/news/iu-spent-13,500-on-chartered-flight-for-trustees-tv-sports-gig.php

[Artie86]

25 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah, but we are talking two Sweet 16s vs. two NC games and an NBA championship. I'm OK paying a little more for that, especially when it's not IU's money

I don’t think some people really take this into consideration!

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I don’t think some people really take this into consideration!

Why do you think I listed Otzelberger? His buyout would be a non-starter if he wanted to come to IU. He’d be cheaper than Stevens even with the buyout.

[cleeter]

Ya. It wasn’t an offer he couldn’t refuse, clearly. Don’t see it any differently this time around. He’s got the comfiest job in basketball.

“clearly”, we will just agree to disagree here.


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[HoosierInParadise]

Man...I'm beginning to think that not even Brad Stevens can unite this fan base. We people can't even agree that there might actually be a chance you get him....geez. I'm wondering if some will actually be disappointed at the press conference when he is announced as the coach. To me, my day to day life doesn't change regardless who is hired so who care about the potential of being disappointed again? I am excited to have Brad freaking Stevens as the head coach of IU!!

[RaceToTheTop]

16 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Ya. It wasn’t an offer he couldn’t refuse, clearly. Don’t see it any differently this time around. He’s got the comfiest job in basketball.

Well, I don’t know why we hold out any hope since AH1971 has already made it his mission to talk everyone out of Stevens.  Load ‘em up boys, time to move on and hire whatever low major directional school’s coach would sign at IU after he gets back to us.  He’s got a guy on the line two who wants a set of whitewalls.

[steubenhoosier]

40 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Who cares how much we pay if it isn’t your money? 

This thread has been full of people complaining about how much this team is getting paid. And it’s not their money 

[Uspshoosier]

33 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Looking at Otz record...what made Iowa State want him after going 17-15 Y1 and then 12-15 Y2 at UNLV. I am not familiar with his background, but he jumped from South Dakota State where he won a lot in 3 years, to 2 very mediocre/bad years at UNLV, to Iowa State. 

He was an Iowa St assistant for many years.  Even left and went to another school as an assistant for a year before  came back as the associate head coach before he left for South Dakota St 

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Paycheck-wise... but neither were close to top 10, performance-wise.

Yes, but since the post I replied to and quoted was about salaries, I didn't feel the need to state that is what I was talking about.