They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[IUFAN1976]

45 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

It would be fun to have an interim coach that could maybe get a performance out of our $6M roster.  This team can be better (duh!).  If we stick with Woody we're toast.

Interesting the donors that probably backed Woody after last season now want a change.  Our donors are idiots, they need to stop meddling because they have no idea what they're doing.  Just send the checks and shut up.

I still think we get an interim not on staff, like Crean or Fife!  
 

Whenever money is involved, the stakeholders want a return on their investment to 

[IUCrazy2]

6 hours ago, Hornsby said:

No it just proves money can't make a bad coach better.

https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1883593888029720584

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Money can make a bad coach better.  It just can't make a bad coach good.  Can you imagine what Woodson's team would look like without the money?

[IUFAN1976]

8 hours ago, hoosierbannerd said:

If they can Woody and have an interim, I would probably actually watch the rest of this season just to see how these guys react to a different voice and knowing the interim will only be that for the remainder of the season. I don't think SD will f*ck up this next hire...

I agree, if Dolson fires Woodson today and places an interim coach in his place tomorrow, it would be clear to the interim that he is there to finish the season and nothing more.  That is why I think Crean is the perfect guy. He wants to get back into coaching and this would be a great audition for him for other schools.  He can take a good roster that was poorly coached and try to get them to win and make the tournament.  To me, it is a win-win for both sides.  Fife would be the other guy.  Wouldn’t that be a kick in the nads to Woodson, hiring a guy to replace him that he fired and Fife wins with this team, lol

[str8baller]

7 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I agree, if Dolson fires Woodson today and places an interim coach in his place tomorrow, it would be clear to the interim that he is there to finish the season and nothing more.  That is why I think Crean is the perfect guy. He wants to get back into coaching and this would be a great audition for him for other schools.  He can take a good roster that was poorly coached and try to get them to win and make the tournament.  To me, it is a win-win for both sides.  Fife would be the other guy.  Wouldn’t that be a kick in the nads to Woodson, hiring a guy to replace him that he fired and Fife wins with this team, lol

If Crean came in—and I’ll put this possibility at under 1%—and got them to the tourney he would immediately be a top candidate for the job. If nothing else the chorus from the doofuses in the media would be loud for IU to rehire their friend. There would be a hundred podcasts and articles about how we aren’t a top job anymore and his ceiling of S16s is about all we can expect, so it’s a bargain we should jump on. Some of the younger fans might even believe it. 
 

That would be a circus I would think even this administration is competent enough to shy away from. 

[Artie86]

....ohhh to know the dynamics of that locker room after the game!

Who knows how many players are behind Woodson or not. There could even be some "behind the scenes" mutiny, or the complete opposite. One thing for certain,....the "OPTICS" have shown how discombobulated this team is from the coaching to the players. Like I posted yesterday, the video of Goode redirecting both Coach Ya and Woodson is extremely damning for them and a direct reflection of the current disconnect of a coaching staff. When you have a player going out of his way to "save face" for his coaches shows the love and respect he has for the game and this entire team. The "optics" show Woodson has met his match and looked as though he was "tapping out"!!!......

[str8baller]

4 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

....ohhh to know the dynamics of that locker room after the game!

I agree with your post on the odd Goode/coach/handshake thing.  
 

But the players do not seem to be on the same page. Goode, Leal, Galloway and Reneau were openly sniping at each other on the court over missed assignments. Multiple times. Nobody was on the same page for the last two possessions. 
 

This team is openly a wreck. Most of that is coaching but it looks like the players are at it among themselves. I’m sure some stories will leak out eventually. This is the worst I think I’ve seen it since the Dakich season or maybe Davis’s worst stretch. 

[Artie86]

12 hours ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Chris, I’m getting off of a plane so might be delayed while I travel home, but PM me when it’s convenient. Had an interesting text exchange after the game today. 

 

11 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I probably won’t be around too much longer. Have to drop the wifey off at the airport at 6am. But will be back here early in the morning. Hopefully hearing good news. 

......It's 8:08 a.m. I'm sitting at my HS classroom desk and the bell's about to ring in 17 minutes! lol 

lol!!!

[reconmkd]

Been here since 6:30!!!!

[KNOBYDOX]

Here is a big IF. assuming Woodson and Buckner are partners in real estate in Bloomington and Buckner knows he has medical issues, but uses his influence to keep the millions rolling in for more investment Opportunities .would be curious to know. how their contracts are worded as partners.

[Chris007]

10 hours ago, MrBBall said:

Scott was busy resigning our defensive coordinator. Big time. He’s on the ball and will be recognized as the best AD we’ve had in a long time 

I think Scott was taking in how dysfunctional our whole basketball program was yesterday. He has a lot to work with moving forward. 

[Scotty R]

I don't ever remember an interim coach being brought in from the outside after the HC being fired mid season. I just don't see that happening and it isn't like you can come in and I still a new offense or defense this late into the season. If they do eventually fire Woodson mid season the interim will be one of the current assistant coaches.

[Pagoda]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think Scott was taking in how dysfunctional our whole basketball program was yesterday. He has a lot to work with moving forward. 

Yea.  He’s got to fill the power void as Quinn steps back and get the trustees/donors to stop meddling.  Tough ask.  Pam needs to help with this too and get people off his back and provide cover.

[8bucks]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I still think we get an interim not on staff, like Crean or Fife!  
 

Whenever money is involved, the stakeholders want a return on their investment to 

Has this happened before?  Could not think of a time in college basketball an interim was hired from the outside but it is an interesting idea.

[dwtaylor1055]

the fact that Goode had to tell CMW to turn around and go shake hands is downright embarrassing.  CMW set us up for failure with that timeout, personal on the court and had no freaking clue who to sub in and out before an atrocious inbounds play

[HoosierInParadise]

I don't ever remember an interim coach being brought in from the outside after the HC being fired mid season. I just don't see that happening and it isn't like you can come in and I still a new offense or defense this late into the season. If they do eventually fire Woodson mid season the interim will be one of the current assistant coaches.

Those of you that want Crean as the interm, why not just give it to Hulls? He helped bring the program back from the depths and worked his tail off to do so. He knows what it takes. Of course, there is the argument that Woodson should know how to do this since he learned from one of the best, but still....

Also, no one would ever expect Hulls to keep the job regardless of the level of success he achieves with the team.

[ap2345]

Just now, mbredenk101 said:

Those of you that want Crean as the interm, why not just give it to Hulls? He helped bring the program back from the depths and worked his tail off to do so. He knows what it takes. Of course, there is the argument that Woodson should know how to do this since he learned from one of the best, but still....

Also, no one would ever expect Hulls to keep the job regardless of the level of success he achieves with the team.

Neither one is happening. They aren't bringing a guy in from outside to finish the season. They also aren't giving it to a guy that's never even had to come up with a scouting report. 

[IUFAN1976]

4 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Has this happened before?  Could not think of a time in college basketball an interim was hired from the outside but it is an interesting idea.

I am not sure but I know Crean and Fife are available and it was posted on here that non of the assistants are interested and if they aren’t interested, then who do they turn to, Cig?

[HoosierInParadise]

Neither one is happening. They aren't bringing a guy in from outside to finish the season. They also aren't giving it to a guy that's never even had to come up with a scouting report. 

Maybe he should do the scouting report for the Purdue game on Friday? All the scouting reports and/or execution of them the entire season have been awful....

[ap2345]

3 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

7 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Neither one is happening. They aren't bringing a guy in from outside to finish the season. They also aren't giving it to a guy that's never even had to come up with a scouting report. 

Maybe he should do the scouting report for the Purdue game on Friday? All the scouting reports and/or execution of them the entire season have been awful....

Well it's easy to say that when the HC doesn't listen to the assistants half the time. 

[Stuhoo]

If we ever went to an interim coach, by far the most likely choice would be Kenya Hunter. The second most likely would be Yasir, and the third most likely would be Walsh. I guess Calbert would be a one in a hundred shot at taking the temporary role.