They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Muskie plays the four]

Man it's a weird vibe in here today. 

[IUCrazy2]

7 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Dialing down the emotions is the objective? Interesting - I have been told that none of this is emotionally based, though it’s also been communicated that any emotional outbursts are the fault of the University. 

No, the decision is based off of protecting whatever goodwill is left in your product.  That isn't an emotional decision on the part of the decision maker.  I think any chance of violence is infinitesimally small and isn't more than any other large event gathering.  People booing the team every game, chanting for the coach to be fired, doing mass walkouts, etc. are things you don't want to have to try and sell as a decision maker.  That is hurting thr brand I have a fiduciary responsibility to protect as one of those decision makers.

Emotional responses aren't devoid of logic.  The two are not mutually exclusive.  

[Juwan Moye]

I only keep checking this thread in hopes of someone letting us know that Woodson is officially gone.

[68Hoosier]

1 minute ago, Muskie plays the four said:

Man it's a weird vibe in here today. 

Right, we spend more time attacking each other than talking about the current state of the program. 

[jefftheref]

33 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Are we still giving Woodson a party on his last game and thanking him for saving the program? He did his job.

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I would like to crap in a bag and give it to him as a reminder of what his coaching and results are! 

[IU Prof]

Apropos of nothing, in my experience high-level administrative players typically have better things to do than spend all day arguing with fans on a message board.

[TheWatShot]

4 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I’m not missing the point at all. You’re offering a highly emotional and nonsensical “solution” because it would make you feel better. It would care in the least about the program or the University or the players, but you’d feel better. Let’s Go!

I googled "benefits of firing coach midseason" and the following came up. Maybe this will help you understand:

Firing a coach midseason can potentially benefit a team by injecting new energy, tactics, and a fresh perspective, which could lead to improved performance and a better chance at salvaging a struggling season, especially if the team is experiencing significant underperformance under the previous coach; however, this strategy can be risky and often comes with significant drawbacks like disruption to team chemistry and the potential for further decline if the new coach doesn't immediately click with the players. 

 

Potential benefits of firing a coach midseason:

• Spark a turnaround:

  A change in leadership can sometimes motivate players and create a sense of urgency to turn things around, especially if the team is underachieving. 

   
• New strategies and tactics:

  A new coach may bring different offensive or defensive schemes that better suit the current roster and could exploit weaknesses in opponents. 

   
• Accountability and pressure:

  Firing a coach can send a message to the players and the organization that poor performance will not be tolerated. 

   
• Addressing internal issues:

  Sometimes, a coaching change can be necessary to address internal conflicts or a lack of player buy-in with the previous coach. 

   

 

 

 

[realTomCrean]

It's better to lose by 25+ and abandon any standards for IUBB than to fire a lame duck coach. We have several arrests, several drug infractions, several physical altercations, current players dogging successful IUBB alumni online, current players deeming any fan that's not supportive of not being a true fan, Fat Ballo fighting and walking around and not getting back on D. A national laughingstock of a program (CBS, F68, Bleacher Report, ESPN, B1G, Robbie Hummel). Only a paid shill would say as much. Clown behavior. I really hope Kathy is not involved in AD - if so, it would make total sense how the program has been so lackluster for 2 decades - clowns running the show. Digressing: too much credit to the clown. 0% chance that Kathy is involved in AD and about 90% paid shill via connection to Woody or QB. Kathy, I'll believe you're connected if you admit you're terribly embarrassed about ROI on a $6M roster with a top 10 paid HC. 

[IUCrazy2]

1 minute ago, 68Hoosier said:

Right, we spend more time attacking each other than talking about the current state of the program. 

Well the University's spin doctor is out to try and manage the situation again.....

[go iu bb]

36 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said:

SIAP

https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-how-long-can-indiana-basketball-avoid-its-coaching-problem/article_9185b7f2-d36a-11ef-b56c-1be3abf78565.html

 

From the article: 

In the 2008-09 season, when Tom Crean put his first IU team together with pipe cleaners, Gorilla glue and a string of guys no other Big Ten program wanted, Indiana lost 17 of 18 conference games. Precisely two of those losses were by 25 or more points — one on Jan. 10, the other on Feb. 7.

[KathywithaC]

4 minutes ago, DoctorP said:

Ohhh Katchy. 

Hope that doesn’t encroach on your “Doctor” duties.

[Hoosier DaDa]

3 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

I agree, it would provide a visceral solution for some, but it wouldn’t impact the long term health of the program, which should be the objective.

Bold part (visceral solution)  NOT HIRE WOODY IN THE FIRST PLACE...FIRE HIM LAST YEAR.  These are the two reasons why the long term health of the program SUCKS right now.  

[darB s'tI]

2 minutes ago, jefftheref said:

I would like to crap in a bag and give it to him as a reminder of what his coaching and results are! 

That could get messy Jeff.

[Golfman25]

Did I see a plane leaving for Boston?   :)  

[realTomCrean]

20 years as a fan. This is the all-time low right?

[KathywithaC]

6 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

No, the decision is based off of protecting whatever goodwill is left in your product.  That isn't an emotional decision on the part of the decision maker.  I think any chance of violence is infinitesimally small and isn't more than any other large event gathering.  People booing the team every game, chanting for the coach to be fired, doing mass walkouts, etc. are things you don't want to have to try and sell as a decision maker.  That is hurting thr brand I have a fiduciary responsibility to protect as one of those decision makers.

Emotional responses aren't devoid of logic.  The two are not mutually exclusive.  

“It is about dialing down the emotions”.

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, KathywithaC said:

Hope that doesn’t encroach on your “Doctor” duties.

Screen names are usually not meant to be taken literally chief. He’s not claiming to be a doctor and I’m not actually an IU Home Jersey btw

[coonhounds]

Man not hearing anything by now probably means we are stuck with this clown through ohio state. Freaking sad state of affairs

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[Stuhoo]

23 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Was struck by how tired and lethargic he looked in last night’s press conference. He’s always been pretty stoic, but he needed a blood pressure check last night.

1,000,000% agree. It was striking how docile he was.

One of the reasons I’m thinking it might soon be a mutual decision that his coaching tenure is officially over mid-season.

[hoosierbannerd]

A while back I posted about the possibility of Woodson having mental health issues and Kathy you made a comment like "you're warm".. sooooo..is that part of the issue? Is IU keeping something hush hush since Woody is a "legend"?