They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Tasmanian Devil]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Of course or JC Penny's or 3D or Hills department stores

Hills - forgot our Hills card! I’m in baby!!

[Papacap]

This point from Kathywithac

4. If he remains, Woody will shake up his staff

is one that I don’t get. This is not a slam on Kathywithac. Just my opinion on this overall. Hey, the program is sucking wind, so the answer is, shake up the staff and keep the HC?

This isn’t a situation where Woody has a track record so needs a new assistant to help with something specific. Like a football coach who gets a new special teams coach because they suck at it. Staff turnover while keeping Woody is simply kicking the can and would show that IU is a second rate athletic department.

[BleedCubbieBlue]

Just now, Tasmanian Devil said:

Can I pay with an outdated Sears credit card?

Yes, but you have to supply the carbon copy imprinter.

[Chris007]

42 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

In case some aren't clear on Buckner's term on the BoT.  He was appointed by the Governor and his term expires in July 2025.  At that time, our current governor will be the ex-governor and the new governor may have other ideas than re-appointing QB.  

Are any other BoT up in 2025?

[ap2345]

48 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

People are getting way ahead of themselves. Some reality:

1. Buckner has great influence, but he’s not solely pulling the levers here, at least not in the way he did when he forced Glass’s hand on Crean;

2. Dolson is in charge, but he understands that situations like this require internal vetting and consensus before anything happens. This is a group sport;

3. There are some very important stakeholders who would need to do an “about face” on Pearl for him to be hired;

4. If he remains, Woody will shake up his staff;

5. The player defection possibility is very real, as is the Woodying;

6. Don’t believe the rumor that this is Dolson positioning himself publicly in an internal battle with QB. To be kind, that’s misinformed. To be accurate, it’s nonsense to those who know those two.

Thats all for now.

Glass didn't hire Crean and Buckner wasn't involved with that hire. 

[Tasmanian Devil]

Just now, BleedCubbieBlue said:

Yes, but you have to supply the carbon copy imprinter.

Damn, I’m screwed . . . no, wait!! I’ve got the Hills credit card!! Good to go baby!

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Papacap said:

This point from Kathywithac

4. If he remains, Woody will shake up his staff

is one that I don’t get. This is not a slam on Kathywithac. Just my opinion on this overall. Hey, the program is sucking wind, so the answer is, shake up the staff and keep the HC?

This isn’t a situation where Woody has a track record so needs a new assistant to help with something specific. Like a football coach who gets a new special teams coach because they suck at it. Staff turnover while keeping Woody is simply kicking the can and would show that IU is a second rate athletic department.

Yeah he doesn't listen to his assistants already, so let's fire one and get another one he doesn't want to listen too. That fixes everything. 

[Chris007]

11 minutes ago, JF87 said:

I know that most of you have jumped on the Bruce Pearl train.  That's understandable, Bruce is high energy with a great personality.  He also plays a winning brand of basketball.  Pearl would be a much better coach for IU than Mike Woodson.  My concern is that the Pearl camp is just using IU for leverage.  There's just too much noise around Pearl to IU.  I think Dolson is professional enough that the leaks and rumors aren't coming from the IU side.  That would mean they are coming from Pearl's camp.  If so, Pearl really could be campaigning for his IU dream job.  However, I think it's more likely that he's simply pressuring Auburn for facilities upgrades or to have his son named his designated successor. Just some concerns from a pessimist. 

My only thing with this is you can't say IU is my dream job but the timing has never been right, then we offer the job and you use it to get more at Auburn. That would be some real BS

[LIHoosier]

Are any other BoT up in 2025?

It's Quinn, Cindy Lucchese, Cathy Langham, and Vivian Winston. I believe Winston is the alumni elected one and the other 3 are appt. by the governor.

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[BleedCubbieBlue]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Are any other BoT up in 2025?

There are four members up in 2025 not including Buckner and one up this year.

 

[darB s'tI]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

My only thing with this is you can't say IU is my dream job but the timing has never been right, then we offer the job and you use it to get more at Auburn. That would be some real BS

I just don't see it, like, at all. He doesn't need leverage at Auburn. He doesn't need a raise. He has everything he wants, other than they're a football school and IU is not. Or at least we didn't used to be!!!!

[IUc2016]

8 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Glass didn't hire Crean and Buckner wasn't involved with that hire. 

I took it as she meant Quinn forced Glass to FIRE Crean in 2016. Could be wrong though

[JF87]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

My only thing with this is you can't say IU is my dream job but the timing has never been right, then we offer the job and you use it to get more at Auburn. That would be some real BS

Or very Machiavellian.  Bruce and his agent may just know how to play the game.  I hope that I'm wrong, but it is a concern.  

[Artie86]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Of course or JC Penny's or 3D or Hills department stores

....aaaahhhh, yes, the good 'ol days! I can still smell the popcorn walking into the Bloomington "Airway" department store, (now Target).

[IUc2016]

8 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

It's Quinn, Cindy Lucchese, Cathy Langham, and Vivian Winston. I believe Winston is the alumni elected one and the other 3 are appt. by the governor.

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Woah, Cathy with a C

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

It's Quinn, Cindy Lucchese, Cathy Langham, and Vivian Winston. I believe Winston is the alumni elected one and the other 3 are appt. by the governor.

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Very interesting

[HoosierBoiler]

50 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

People are getting way ahead of themselves. Some reality:

1. Buckner has great influence, but he’s not solely pulling the levers here, at least not in the way he did when he forced Glass’s hand on Crean;

2. Dolson is in charge, but he understands that situations like this require internal vetting and consensus before anything happens. This is a group sport;

3. There are some very important stakeholders who would need to do an “about face” on Pearl for him to be hired;

4. If he remains, Woody will shake up his staff;

5. The player defection possibility is very real, as is the Woodying;

6. Don’t believe the rumor that this is Dolson positioning himself publicly in an internal battle with QB. To be kind, that’s misinformed. To be accurate, it’s nonsense to those who know those two.

Thats all for now.

Good information, a couple things I would say is that changing staff really does nothing for me. I think the assistant coaches did a good job of getting recruits to campus that Woodson wanted. Recruits don’t want to play 1980 style basketball . My guess is he probably wants Kenny P to join the staff. He definitely has some connections but probably just a terrible look considering where we finish the year and where Louisville has been under him.

 

[Artie86]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

My only thing with this is you can't say IU is my dream job but the timing has never been right, then we offer the job and you use it to get more at Auburn. That would be some real BS

I think he really likes the facilities at IU, especially since IU has it's own bb practice gym.

[Tasmanian Devil]

6 minutes ago, Papacap said:

This point from Kathywithac

4. If he remains, Woody will shake up his staff

is one that I don’t get. This is not a slam on Kathywithac. Just my opinion on this overall. Hey, the program is sucking wind, so the answer is, shake up the staff and keep the HC?

This isn’t a situation where Woody has a track record so needs a new assistant to help with something specific. Like a football coach who gets a new special teams coach because they suck at it. Staff turnover while keeping Woody is simply kicking the can and would show that IU is a second rate athletic department.

I’m going to play Devils Advocate: is K(C)athy coming on here to try to steer the narrative a certain direction?

I have no idea if the things she is saying are legit or not. Kind of seem suspicious that somebody comes in out of the blue with a post like that as their first post; what’s the impetus for her to do that?

[ap2345]

3 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

I took it as she meant Quinn forced Glass to FIRE Crean in 2016. Could be wrong though

Maybe but I didn't think Buckner inserted himself until it came to hiring Archie but who knows. He might have forced Crean out but that was a necessary move imo.