Fire Coach Woodson + Archie Miller Assessment Thread

[MikeRoberts 6,848]

7 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

But I was told nobody wants this job. That's why we got Woodson. Lol.

 

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Yep! That narrative was preached pretty heavily here on this forum. It has never been true

[Hornsby 1,636]

Yep! That narrative was preached pretty heavily here on this forum. It has never been true

Nope

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[MikeRoberts 6,848]

14 minutes ago, cleeter said:

Monday night discord chat.


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Is there a link/invite to that server?

[cleeter 2,049]

Is there a link/invite to that server?

I think you have to subscribe to Peegs. But under “Premium IU Lobby”, there is a chat titled, “Monday Discord Link”. Link is in there. But fair warning, if you think Peegs is bad in general, that discord chat is Peegs on some fresh Colombian cocaine


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[Hoosierfan2017 20,002]

42 minutes ago, cleeter said:

According to Rabby, Indiana would be able to land Bruce Pearl


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Make it happen Scott. IU would be back to elite status by December. 

[BtownStrength 1,012]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Poor ISP posted info on Peegs and is taking a beating for it. Most people don’t believe him. He should have just stayed with us over here. We don’t bash people who bring us info whether it turns out true or not.

For those of us that don't have Peegs account, what did ISP say?

[JSHoosier 19,645]

1 hour ago, cleeter said:

According to Rabby, Indiana would be able to land Bruce Pearl


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[JSHoosier 19,645]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Did he also say they used to use peach baskets when he first started playing?

How is he supposed to relate to recruits today when in his day they changed the game by cutting the bottom out of the peach basket?

[cleeter 2,049]

So tonight Rabby said 1) Indiana could land Bruce and 2) Pearl would love the IU job.

I am so ready to get hurt again.


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[HoosierX 1,460]

44 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

100% they do. They felt he was dismissive of them and most fans thought it was funny when winning. Now they get their chance and they are hitting hard. 

you can dislike him as much as you want and still realize this is true. It is all the AC, ITH, Doyel etc. they have been waiting. They haven’t helped the situation.

again, no matter how you feel, we have way to many of these guys.

Or maybe these people can discern that Woodson is a bad coach using objective measures and subjective observations?

And why do you get to decide we have way too many of these folks? Clearly the market supports it, so you are literally wrong about there being too many.

[HoosierX 1,460]

3 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

They are spouting some BS that future coaches will be scared off because IU will run them off if they aren’t successful by year three.  Of course the miss the part where the fired coach walks away with millions.  

Agreed, that is such an overplayed narrative. It's something that sounds reasonable when people say it but ultimately makes very little sense.

1) For the reason you mentioned, money talks 2) No one who is worth hiring expects to fail

[JSHoosier 19,645]

42 minutes ago, cleeter said:

So tonight Rabby said 1) Indiana could land Bruce and 2) Pearl would love the IU job.

I am so ready to get hurt again.


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lU should but won't because of their goody two shoes mentality.

[HoosierX 1,460]

32 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

Or maybe they have an agenda. See, we can both see play hypotheticals. They do by the way and obvious to see. They never liked how he responded to them. 

why do I get to decide, huh? Simply making a statement that we have too many websites, podcast and blogs acting not as reporters but opinion givers. Most of them don’t make some big living off of that. They do it as a side thing. Market or not market they are there.

Problem is their voice and opinions shouldn’t carry any weight but do. Most of them don’t no more than the average fan and know less than intelligent fans. That has been a problem well before any of this.

DD for being the mess he is got that one right a long time ago. He is good for one or 2 a year. 

Except most of them are just laying out facts, which don't really have an agenda. And you're making blanket observations that you almost certainly can't back up. Which one of these guys is spouting things that aren't based on legitimate analysis? Which ones are less intelligent than an average fan?

If people want to consume their content then who are you to tell them they shouldn't? If it's a side hustle, even better, they're doing it because they love it. Get a f'ing life dude.

[tkbbn 481]

The problem is we aren't winning,  if we were winning their voices wouldn't be heard at all. The media didn't like Knight but he was a winner and didn't have to answer to them. CMW isn't winning and can't act the same way. The future isn't looking very positive either. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,061]

Pearl would honestly be an equivalent hire as Cig was for Football imo from Dolson. Would give 4-6 more years for Dusty to build that resume to see if he is the real deal.

A big part of me loves the Pearl idea. Age concerns me a bit though, tbh.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,061]

Pearl would honestly be an equivalent hire as Cig was for Football imo from Dolson. Would give 4-6 more years for Dusty to build that resume to see if he is the real deal.

A big part of me loves the Pearl idea. Age concerns me a bit though, tbh.


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Have him bring Broome and Hollowell. Has a good guard signed for 24. Try to keep McNeely, Mgbako, Reneau, Gallo.

Would be interesting to see what he can do with Indiana resources in the portal.


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[Feathery 4,003]

7 hours ago, Ngw7183 said:

I don’t see that being an issue at all for a guy like him anymore. Beard is a hell no but outside of him, not an issue. 

Number one issue I will keep repeating. No donor is going to give $12 mil, help with new salary etc to replace Woody who many of them still like with Dusty or the like. 

Dolsons only shot is to lineup a Pearl, lock it 100%, not 99% in, and then go ask for the money. Even then, he is going to have to convince. 

The athletic department got about a $30 million raise with the new TV deal that started this year.  They got a donor to pay for the football buyout. So Dolson has the money, regardless of any donors, without taking away from any funds he had at his disposal in any previous year. Money for buyouts is not an issue. Money for NIL could be a factor but not for buyouts. It’s going to be about politicking to fire a guy and then still get them to donate to NIL. But I believe Dolson has the capability to bridge that political gap and win over a donor or 2. 

[IUrocker 2,140]

I’m seeing that there’s people/fans on the Auburn side who are getting smoke about Pearl possibly leaving. Not just a matter of them seeing it from our side. Some say it’s BS, some say fine let’s let him walk, and others say they need to make sure they take care of him so that they don’t lose him.

I guess he is really wanting/wishing he had a new basketball only practice facility because they share what they have now with other sports at the school. He also wants to make sure his son will be the next guy in line there when/if he does end up being gone. Someone who seems to be their “in the know” guy mentioned signing a different apparel company and getting a new practice facility would be the two big things Auburn could do to get him to stay if he wants to leave, and that it’s not Pearl’s style to be trying to get his name floating to other schools just to get a pay bump. 
 

Also wanted to add  that one of their boards started a thread called “Would CBP leave Auburn?”, and their insider guy responded simply “Yes, but only for IU.”

[IUHoosierJoe 950]

5 hours ago, Ngw7183 said:

Or maybe they have an agenda. See, we can both see play hypotheticals. They do by the way and obvious to see. They never liked how he responded to them. 

why do I get to decide, huh? Simply making a statement that we have too many websites, podcast and blogs acting not as reporters but opinion givers. Most of them don’t make some big living off of that. They do it as a side thing. Market or not market they are there.

Problem is their voice and opinions shouldn’t carry any weight but do. Most of them don’t no more than the average fan and know less than intelligent fans. That has been a problem well before any of this.

DD for being the mess he is got that one right a long time ago. He is good for one or 2 a year. 

I think it’s important to differentiate just anyone with a blog or a website or a podcast from “the media.”  Everyone has access to the internet and the ability to get their voice heard.  Whether it’s sports or anything else, sure, a lot of people decide what they want to believe and then easily find something on the internet to latch on to.  To the extent someone wants to blame that phenomenon for their problems, it’s not going away anytime soon.

[Hoosier DaDa 2,050]

11 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Guess he's forgotten the past 25 years as a HC/assistant in the NBA. Did he have his eyes closed when his teams played Golden State -- and Steph Curry would take two steps across the half-court line and launch 3s? And when that same Steph Curry won two MVPs by pretty much shooting nothing but 3-pointers. And how post play in the NBA has been deemphasized over the past several years? 

Wonder if he realizes nobody runs the wishbone anymore in football?

Or has leather helmets with no face mask on anymore either.