2023 SF/PF Mackenzie Mgbako to Texas A&M via Portal

[Stuhoo]

47 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

This board makes me laugh sometimes. Always trying to find reasons why recruits aren't coming and seeing every little rumor that is seen and going crazy about. Sure he may not come. We don't know. Just relax.

 

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FWIW, I see a whole lot more of posters consistently stating, for better and for worse, this has been a close to the vest recruitment and we won't know until the recruit tells us. 

It's fun to try to read the tea leaves, but for anyone who's convinced he is/isn't coming after every rumor? That is a recipe for 'no fun'.

[Chris007]

8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

FWIW, I see a whole lot more of posters consistently stating, for better and for worse, this has been a close to the vest recruitment and we won't know until the recruit tells us. 

It's fun to try to read the tea leaves, but for anyone who's convinced he is/isn't coming after every rumor? That is a recipe for 'no fun'.

I'm not sure this one is hard to connect though. Who has been advising this kid for years? Slater. Who is drinking buddies and good friends with Slater? Rabjohns. So it's not like he is getting bad info. Maybe the kid goes to Louisville and hates it. We can hope for that.

[TheWatShot]

58 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Would feel better if it were coming from somewhere other than Rabjohns.  He tends to paint an overly optimistic picture of things for IU, so him saying that 'Louisville currently leads' without him even visiting is not encouraging.

Rabjohns may be well-connected, but that doesn't mean everything he shares is accurate. I remember him being pretty convinced we weren't getting Cody Zeller, and I'm not sure how he could have possibly known anything there because the Zellers shared literally nothing with anybody. 

[Scotty R]

If this story is true about the agent and this is what we are in for them changes need to be made. I just wish they let anyone who isn't interested in going to college just let them go to the NBA or the G league. I wouldn't care if all the top 50 players in a class goes pro. I just want some resemblance of the college game I loved.  Nobody made these kids go play college basketball and they seem entitled thinking they deserve the whole world. M

Maybe I should go to the CEO of my fortune 500 company and let them know I deserve a bigger piece of the pie. Since I am the one out there doing a lot of the work I should get as much as the CEO.

[Artie86]

25 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

I would like to say whether things are going well or not, this board is far less annoying than all the others. Peegs has turned into an absolute wasteland over the last few months. Just a bunch of people constantly crying and complaining about everything

...more like the last few years. They are are also late to everything.

[Stuhoo]

6 hours ago, Scotty R said:

Maybe I should go to the CEO of my fortune 500 company and let them know I deserve a bigger piece of the pie. Since I am the one out there doing a lot of the work I should get as much as the CEO.

 

I'm not at all a fan of these 'kids these days' opinions:

Do you have a truly unique skill that your CEO cannot duplicate with another employee? Because if you do, you may be successful in your request for a paycheck rivaling the CEO.

Mackenzie Mgbako has a unique skill set that very few others can do as well. And that expectation can greatly effect the bottom line.

In the free market people do not get paid exclusively based on how hard they work; they get paid based on how much value they will, or are expected to provide compared to other available options.

 

[Banksyrules]

Man telenovela writers should read this board to get future ideas.

[wirenuts]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not sure this one is hard to connect though. Who has been advising this kid for years? Slater. Who is drinking buddies and good friends with Slater? Rabjohns. So it's not like he is getting bad info. Maybe the kid goes to Louisville and hates it. We can hope for that.

Seems like Adidas in general favors Louisville and Kansas over teams like IU. I'm not sure that is how it is but the impression that I have. It kinda begs the question of why IU still has an Adidas contract if players are going to be steered away. Not complaining, just an observation

[go iu bb]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I'm not at all a fan of these 'kids these days' opinions: Do you have a truly unique skill that your CEO cannot duplicate with another employee? Because if you do, you may be successful in your request for a paycheck rivaling the CEO. Mackenzie Mgbako has a unique skill set that very few others can do as well. And that expectation can greatly effect the bottom line.

In the free market people do not get paid exclusively based on how hard they work; they get paid based on how much value they will, or are expected to provide compared to other available options.

 

I would also add that the players are the product. It's not the same as employees helping make or sell widgets for a company. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, wirenuts said:

Seems like Adidas in general favors Louisville and Kansas over teams like IU. I'm not sure that is how it is but the impression that I have. It kinda begs the question of why IU still has an Adidas contract if players are going to be steered away. Not complaining, just an observation

This has certainly been the case more often than not.  Romeo Langford was a big time Adidas guy that we won.  But were also the hometown school.  Archie, IMO, sunk his career at IU with how the Romeo season went so far as recruiting 5 star guys.  

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

Seems like Adidas in general favors Louisville and Kansas over teams like IU. I'm not sure that is how it is but the impression that I have. It kinda begs the question of why IU still has an Adidas contract if players are going to be steered away. Not complaining, just an observation

You are correct both of those schools get more money from Adidas than we do. That contract is up in 2024

[Brass Cannon]

They favor them because they win more and do more for the brand.  We aren’t going to have better luck with any other company. We have to start winning to be treated like winners 

[Chris007]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

They favor them because they win more and do more for the brand.  We aren’t going to have better luck with any other company. We have to start winning to be treated like winners 

I was about to say we would be in the 10-15 range if we went with Nike. It's just got to be who is going to give you the most money. 

[wirenuts]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This has certainly been the case more often than not.  Romeo Langford was a big time Adidas guy that we won.  But were also the hometown school.  Archie, IMO, sunk his career at IU with how the Romeo season went so far as recruiting 5 star guys.  

If I remember correctly the ESPN article mentioned Tom crean being really happy when finding out Adidas was going to start helping. I'm sure it was at the end of his tenure. If that is the case, was it that crean only wanted to play the game when he knew he was gonna be fired for non performance, or was it that Indiana tried to play the game only to be knocked down by their own shoe company?

With friends like that, who needs enemas?

[Hoosier987]

Rabjohns seems to be clarifying his statements earlier. Now implying that he’s just repeating what backroom chatter he has heard and that he’s not saying Louisville is the team to beat. He is in the “let’s see what’s real and what’s not” mode. Again, seems like there’s a different rumor daily. 

[Hoosier987]

4 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

 We have to start winning to be treated like winners 

Very true words here. It’s a tough pill to swallow but you’re absolutely correct. 

[TheWatShot]

7 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Rabjohns seems to be clarifying his statements earlier. Now implying that he’s just repeating what backroom chatter he has heard and that he’s not saying Louisville is the team to beat. He is in the “let’s see what’s real and what’s not” mode. Again, seems like there’s a different rumor daily. 

Could be something as simple as someone hearing "his agent wants him to check out Louisville" and telling someone else "his agent wants him to go to Louisville." 

[Scotty R]

27 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I would also add that the players are the product. It's not the same as employees helping make or sell widgets for a company. 

In college sports the name on the front of the jersey is the product. Players come and go but the one constant is the name of the school.

[Deserthoozier]

30 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This has certainly been the case more often than not.  Romeo Langford was a big time Adidas guy that we won.  But were also the hometown school.  Archie, IMO, sunk his career at IU with how the Romeo season went so far as recruiting 5 star guys.  

Remember — Langford was a super solid lean, if not lock, for Louisville, w/strong adidas backing, until they went up in flames and looked like they might be penalized w/one of their many scandals. Forget if it was the strippers, bags of cash at the 7/11, Italian restaurant post-dinner table action, or one of the others…too many to track. Aside from maybe better upfront contract cash, Adidas hasn’t delivered on brand, and all the ‘support’ that come with it, for IU like for other premier schools. Seem to be part of the problem…throwing picked over bones here and there - rather than a true partner in recruiting advocacy — which we know happens at a lot of places!

[go iu bb]

13 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

In college sports the name on the front of the jersey is the product. Players come and go but the one constant is the name of the school.

If that was the case, why do we know the names of players? 

Yes, the fans are fans of the school but the players are who they watch. Bring in a bunch of nobodies who can't play and see how long fans stay around. IU fans have been more persistent than most but I have definitely seen a decline in fan enthusiasm in the last 25 years or so.

Under Miller, fan enthusiasm really took a dive. Lots of losing because of bad coaching and teams that didn't have much talent outside of 1 or 2 players.

Basketball is actually the product, not the school name. Without the players you don't have that.