General Coach Candidate News

[Gnet550]

2 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

John Belein — lifetime contract or five years, whichever happens first,

Cmon champ, keep the gloves up...lol

[Magisterium]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

I don't know if the Oats buyout is a big deal or not. There is a large donor committed to paying "transition costs" which seems to me might include buyout costs of the new coach. If it's not that, then what would be the large costs of transitioning that would require a donor? Dolson didn't say salary costs so it doesn't sound like this donor is helping pay the next coach above the level IU is willing to pay. So it seems like it would be a buyout that the donor is willing to pay.

largely  agree; IMO the issue w/ Oats wouldn't be the buyout (or even any potential salary offer that Bama could match). I just get the feeling Oats doesn't want to leave Bama...yet.

That might change if UNC or Kentucky came calling, but for IU these days...tougher sell. Maybe Oats needs to have a heart-to-heart talk w/ his fellow Maranatha Baptist grad, Coach Tom Allen.

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Has he mentioned he wants an IU guy? 

No, but he did guard Michael Jordan once.  

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Stepped away for a couple hours, did I miss anything of note?

No. Nothing. Just people believing going off the cliff based on conjecture.

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[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Iubravos said:

Moser has made the tournament 2 out of 17 times? Did I hear that correctly? No thank you on that.  

Yes, but the first time he went to the final 4 and the second is the sweet 16 and still playing.  Better than most of these 1 and done guys, including the Big 10 coaches.  

[OKHOOSIER]

In reference to the guys in the transfer portal, everyone needs to take a step back from the ledge. COVID gave everyone an extra season, this year's transfer season was always going to be wild, coaching carousel not included. Further, I am fairly certain guys like KL, RT and AF would have entered the portal regardless. I have a feeling the roster bleed may have been worse had we kept Archie. Go back and watch the games, outside of the occasional three ball from Aljami or dunk from TJD the players look miserable. I made a point to pay close attention to body language when engaging with Archie, and it was clear they pretty much all were sick of/tuned him out. TL:DR: a bunch of dudes would have entered the portal if Archie wasn't fired, there will be transfer options for people we lose.

[Hurryin' Hoosiers]

55 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I’m all for having IU guys part of the program but Dan goes on and on and on about former players being rubbed the wrong way etc. When UK hired Cal do you think the AD was trembling  in fear wondering what former players like Jack Givens or Kyle Macy thought about the hire?  Will UNC call in Sean May and James Worthy to get their advice/approval for Roy’s replacement  hire? 
I appreciate the former players hard work,  what they did for the program and would like them to be fully embraced by the program (and vice versa) but with all due respect they should not be in the hiring process and I don’t think a guy that played before the current kids were born somehow inspires young players  (unless it is a Michael Jordan/Magic Johnson kind of guy). 
Our team “sleep-walked” through more than one game over the last 4 years and  seeing Todd Jadlow at practice, as an example, would not have changed that.

Most UK players weren't there long enough to make connections to the school lol.  UNC players are just glad to get out there without having to go to real classes.

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

Yes, but the first time he went to the final 4 and the second is the sweet 16 and still playing.  Better than most of these 1 and done guys, including the Big 10 coaches.  

Take out Gonzaga and Few and Moser and Stevens only coach to take a mid major to a final 4 and another sweet 16.   Still has a chance to go to 2 final 4s at a mid major 

[Iubravos]

I'd take Beilein all day over Moser. I hope that isn't the pick but just saying. 

[Moye > Boozer]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Agreed, there is nothing about his offense that says NBA to me, or getting players to the league or whatever Dolson said in his press conference

I agree with you all that for us gasping-for-air Indiana diehards Moser is not the impact hire we're looking for but tell me that Illinois game wasn't fun to watch??? I get it was only 1 game!

Here's the true question, though:

Are we going to run a "top recruit" destination program (and are we willing to really "do what it takes" to bring those guys in --- history says no)

OR ........

Are we going to develop a program that can win with the 4 year over-achiever guys with the occasional superstar thrown in (like the Wisconsin teams that have been kicking the crap out of us for the last 20 years)???

I'd bet Dolson is struggling with that question more than just a little bit.

His ultimate hire will obviously tell us which direction he has chosen for the program. 

I know my personal preference, but I am okay with either because both really can work. 

 

[Iubravos]

This coach has coached 17 years in a non power 5 and has been to the tourney 2 years. I mean I can't think of one person that would think that's a good move. It's almost laughable when you put it that way. 

[DChoosier]

2 minutes ago, iuswingman said:

Most UK players weren't there long enough to make connections to the school lol.  UNC players are just glad to get out there without having to go to real classes.

The guys Dan cries and whines about were at IU 20,30,40 years ago. UK players stuck around back then and UNC may or may not have had classes back then.

[Gnet550]

29 minutes ago, Moye > Boozer said:

I agree Hoosierfan2017.

Not my first choice (Oats Oats Oats!!) but def on brand.

Doesn't exaclty jive with the NBA-style offense I'm thinking of but they play incredibly smart and execute with a style that doesn't require the top recruits nor does it require cheating ----- hence the "on-brandness"

There is one guy that would be a true rabbit out of the hat that I didn't mention in my list earlier of guys whose teams are still playing .......

Mark ******* Few ------------ lifetime contract

If we got Mark Few I’d probably go streaking through my subdivision

[Ghost of Rick Majerus]

1 minute ago, Iubravos said:

This coach has coached 17 years in a non power 5 and has been to the tourney 2 years. I mean I can't think of one person that would think that's a good move. It's almost laughable when you put it that way. 

Don't forget about his CBI championship. 

[IU Prof]

8 minutes ago, Iubravos said:

I'd take Beilein all day over Moser. I hope that isn't the pick but just saying. 

Agreed. I still think Beilein is the floor here (unless Dolson believes the thug comment would make him a big liability recruiting wise).

Edit: Which, I should add, isn't a bad place to be, and I say that as someone not very enthused about Beilein.

Edited March 26, 2021 by IU Prof

[Golfman25]

Just now, Moye > Boozer said:

I agree with you all that for us gasping-for-air Indiana diehards Moser is not the impact hire we're looking for but tell me that Illinois game wasn't fun to watch??? I get it was only 1 game!

Here's the true question, though:

Are we going to run a "top recruit" destination program (and are we willing to really "do what it takes" to bring those guys in --- history says no)

OR ........

Are we going to develop a program that can win with the 4 year over-achiever guys with the occasional superstar thrown in (like the Wisconsin teams that have been kicking the crap out of us for the last 20 years)???

I'd bet Dolson is struggling with that question more than just a little bit.

His ultimate hire will obviously tell us which direction he has chosen for the program. 

I know my personal preference, but I am okay with either because both really can work. 

 

How about a combination of both.  A 4* system, whether Loyola or Wisconsin, or whatever, can always be adapted for that 5* player.  Much, much harder to get normal college players to successfully play in a true NBA style system.  

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Rabjohns just tweeted another piece...not a member, but do you subscribers
 
 

Has he been right yet

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[Gnet550]

1 minute ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Has he been right yet

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Maybe, maybe not but he’ll make you pay to see lol

[rayl456]

My guess is Moser, being from Naperville, is happy coaching at Loyola and just stays there, especially if S Smart takes the Marquette position.  He may realize that IU is a no win situation for him.  Then again...if asked, he could easily jump, but it would be a mistake, I believe.  JMHO

[hoosierpap]

24 minutes ago, Iubravos said:

Why would we want Moser, I don't see it at all. Slow down ball and made tourney 2 times in how many years? I hope not because he will not be the answer. 

Can you explain to me this anti-slow ball/ pro-tempo thing?

Past 5 champions

2019- Virginia- AdjT: 353

2018- Villanova- AdjT: 150

2017- Gonzaga- AdjT: 76

2016- Villanova- AdjT: 274

2015- Kentucky- AdjT: 274

AVG Adjusted Tempo from 2015-2019 champions: 225

I guess I don't see a correlation between up-tempo and winning. I'm not against it, I just don't get why so many here seem to be pushing for it over- what appears to be- logic.

IF Gonzaga wins it this year they will certainly be the exception, not the rule.

Someone please explain...