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3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

If memory serves, Painter was Bruce Webber's assistant at Southern Illinois. When Webber left for Champaign, Painter took over. He was there for one season -- a very good one. At the same time, PU under Keady was really declining. People wanted him gone, but didn't want to force the iconic coach out -- then started worrying Painter would get snatched up by another P5 school based on his success at SIU. So the PUs hired him as "associate head coach" under Keady for a season, then he took over. ... That differs from IU in that the longtime coach already was in place. It might be odd to hire your head coach and head coach-in waiting at the same time -- if people are thinking about a Beilein-Fife or Beilein-Lewis combo. 

I'd be quite surprised if a coach--especially one as accomplished as Beilein--would agree to entering into a situation where the university/AD, not Beilein himself, chose one or more of the Assistant coaches. That's just not how these things typically work.

If Dolson suggested it, and Beilein agreed, then maybe it could take place. But that's the only realistic way IMO it could happen.

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Just now, AKHoosier said:

The more time goes by, the bigger of a rebuilding job IU will appear to be with how many of our guys are in the transfer portal.

This could rival the mess Tom Crean inherited in 2008, minus the sanctions and character problems.

Nah. Nobody is "gone" yet. 

And the situation was very different with players leaving or given their walking papers when Crean came.

And if it does become a complete rebuild, it's probably the best year ever to rebuild via the portal. 

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1 minute ago, AKHoosier said:

The more time goes by, the bigger of a rebuilding job IU will appear to be with how many of our guys are in the transfer portal.

This could rival the mess Tom Crean inherited in 2008, minus the sanctions and character problems.

Even if we lose some f these players there will be plenty of players in the portal to get

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1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

Chris Mullins had never coached a t any level just like Clyde Drexler when he coached at Houston

Or Patrick Ewing and Penny Hardaway.

And they didn't have to learn on the job at a school with massive expectations in an absolute meatgrinder of a conference.

IU is a hell of a place to "learn as you go". 

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Can we take anything away from all of these guys entering the transfer portal (Geronimo just entered). I know Dolson is talking to them prior to entering. If we were close to having a coach in place, wouldn't Dolson say, "Just wait a day or two and give the coach a chance before you enter".

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4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He needs to be quiet till Saturday

Ok.. it’s the 27th...any connections to that date?

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To me, it's concerning that players are entering the portal at different times. They are getting told by their AAU coaches, friends, family that you should explore your market for free.

One they see greener grass.. it's hard to turn away pending our hire. 

At least we know the boys were faithful to Archie! 

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2 minutes ago, Go_Hoosiers said:

Can we take anything away from all of these guys entering the transfer portal (Geronimo just entered). I know Dolson is talking to them prior to entering. If we were close to having a coach in place, wouldn't Dolson say, "Just wait a day or two and give the coach a chance before you enter".

Bingo. Which is why I find it hard to believe it’s an IU guy. 

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Just now, Go_Hoosiers said:

Can we take anything away from all of these guys entering the transfer portal (Geronimo just entered). I know Dolson is talking to them prior to entering. If we were close to having a coach in place, wouldn't Dolson say, "Just wait a day or two and give the coach a chance before you enter".

IMO, every single player who is looking out for their best interest, should be in the portal. With the tournament maturing, more and more kids will be added every day. It's best to get in as soon as possible, even if you don't want to return, or are at least willing to be re-recruited by the new coach.

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5 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

I'd be quite surprised if a coach--especially one as accomplished as Beilein--would agree to entering into a situation where the university/AD, not Beilein himself, chose one or more of the Assistant coaches. That's just not how these things typically work.

If Dolson suggested it, and Beilein agreed, then maybe it could take place. But that's the only realistic way IMO it could happen.

I think you are correct, and why I think Beilein AS the associate coach to a more inexperienced head coach/IU guy is more plausible than the other way around

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It's no wonder the players are considering their options. With zero knowledge of what is actually going to happen, the negativity on these boards is so bad it's even beginning to scare me!  But with the right hire, many or all can come back.  Will totally depend on the hire IMO. 

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Just now, Treesh said:

To me, it's concerning that players are entering the portal at different times. They are getting told by their AAU coaches, friends, family that you should explore your market for free.

One they see greener grass.. it's hard to turn away pending our hire. 

At least we know the boys were faithful to Archie! 

We don’t know that. They could have still hit the portal if he were the coach. It’s a free year, almost anyone should be looking to be honest. 

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