General Coach Candidate News

[iu eyedoc]

23 minutes ago, Demo said:

Massive props for the Rory Gallagher shoutout. What a bada$$ that guy was. 

 

16 minutes ago, Shoes_N_Shorts said:

 

I remember Rory's hair being longer

[Scotty R]

1 minute ago, MrBBall said:

I might state it might not be a coach currently coaching at all

I would bet a lot that our next coach is already coaching another college team. 

[iu eyedoc]

6 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Well why would Scott care about what woody thinks when he retired mid-season? He chose this. 

Where did I say anything about MW?

[MrBBall]

3 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Where did I say anything about MW?

Fair point. Apologies. 

[Hoosier987]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

Wonder what the UCONN and Alabama fans thought when they hired Hurley from Rhode Island and Oates from Buffalo. Do you think they thought they would win championships and make final fours when they got hired

RMK Army to IU

Coach K Army to Duke

Calhoun Northeastern to UCONN 

Izzo Assistant to MSU

Boheim Assistant to Syracuse 

Roy Williams Assistant to Kansas

Stevens Butler to the Celtics 

I see most of the all time coaches went from mid major to the big time and succeeded 

I wonder what Iowa fans thought when they hired Todd Licklighter or IU fans when they hired Archie Miller (I know how I felt)

Or Illinois fans when they hired John Groce

Or Minnesota fans when they hired Dan Monson. 

I could go on…there are many more examples of coaches failing to make the jump to high major.…and all those coaches had FAR more experience in division 1 than McCollum. D2 to Indiana in 1 year is a crazy jump. The point is, it’s a gamble…a gamble that is not necessary this go around. We don’t need to hire McCollum when there’s more viable candidates with far more experience. 

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, Asha’man said:

NIL just means players can get paid. Forget how it’s was supposed to be. That’s not the reality. The reality is it’s lay for play. This is minor league basketball now. The collective’s are the boosters who pay the players. So it’s all above board now, which gives IU an advantage since they have the funds but wouldn’t use them under the previous system. And there is nothing wrong with pay for play. The old system was actually illegal and was deemed so in court. 

I thought that was just at UL? Or are other schools bringing in prostitutes?

[Hoosier987]

2 hours ago, jimsorgi said:

Personally: I don't think results today have any effect on timing of new coach news. 

Zero timing 

[Gameface01]

4 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I wonder what Iowa fans thought when they hired Todd Licklighter or IU fans when they hired Archie Miller (I know how I felt)

Or Illinois fans when they hired John Groce

Or Minnesota fans when they hired Dan Monson. 

I could go on…there are many more examples of coaches failing to make the jump to high major.…and all those coaches had FAR more experience in division 1 than McCollum. D2 to Indiana in 1 year is a crazy jump. The point is, it’s a gamble…a gamble that is not necessary this go around. We don’t need to hire McCollum when there’s more viable candidates with far more experience. 

So what are you saying? More experience doesn't necessarily mean more success?

[Scotty R]

9 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I wonder what Iowa fans thought when they hired Todd Licklighter or IU fans when they hired Archie Miller (I know how I felt)

Or Illinois fans when they hired John Groce

Or Minnesota fans when they hired Dan Monson. 

I could go on…there are many more examples of coaches failing to make the jump to high major.…and all those coaches had FAR more experience in division 1 than McCollum. D2 to Indiana in 1 year is a crazy jump. The point is, it’s a gamble…a gamble that is not necessary this go around. We don’t need to hire McCollum when there’s more viable candidates with far more experience. 

How many of those guys had accomplished what McCollum has done. I don't care what division you are coaching, winning 4 championships is great. If you are a winner you can win anywhere 

 

 

[Hoosier987]

3 minutes ago, Gameface01 said:

So what are you saying? More experience doesn't necessarily mean more success?

What I’m saying is I’m not taking a chance on some career D2 coach with 1 year at a mid major (a mid major btw that has a lot of success regardless coach) to run a multi million dollar entity that is IUBB. This is the exact type of hire where there is a legit chance in four years from now where we’re making another change and you’re wondering what went wrong.

[Hoosier987]

5 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

How many of those guys had accomplished what McCollum has done. I don't care what division you are coaching, winning 4 championships is great. If you are a winner you can win anywhere 

 

 

That’s not true though. Division 1 is so much different now than Division 2. Plus All those guys I mentioned, the Groces, the Archie Millers were all winners before and they COULD NOT WIN at Indiana or their selective schools. Hell, Archie went to the Elite Eight! McCollum has never come close to winning something like that.  @Stuhoo mentioned the greatest example, can’t remember his name…but another tremendous D2 coach (much like McCollum) who jumped to D1 and couldn’t successfully make the jump…and this was before NIL collectives, revenue sharing, agents, etc…

[Uspshoosier]

https://x.com/burban1087/status/1898402754688676324?s=46

[Scotty R]

1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said:

What I’m saying is I’m not taking a chance on some career D2 coach with 1 year at a mid major (a mid major btw that has a lot of success regardless coach) to run a multi million dollar entity that is IUBB. This is the exact type of hire where there is a legit chance in four years from now where we’re making another change and you’re wondering what went wrong.

Show me all of these power conference coaches leaving their current jobs for other power conference jobs. Did these blue bloods hire major conference coaches.

Duke No

UNC No

UK No

UL No

Syracuse No

Villinova No

I think the chances to get a Drew or a TJO is very slim. I rather take a chance on McCollum over Beard

 

[Scotty R]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

That’s not true though. Division 1 is so much different now than Division 2. Plus All those guys I mentioned, the Groces, the Archie Millers were all winners before and they COULD NOT WIN at Indiana or their selective schools. Hell, Archie went to the Elite Eight! McCollum has never come close to winning something like that.  @Stuhoo mentioned the greatest example, can’t remember his name…but another tremendous D2 coach (much like McCollum) who jumped to D1 and couldn’t successfully make the jump…and this was before NIL collectives, revenue sharing, agents, etc…

OSU football won a championship with a D2 coach who never was a HC in D1

[TTT]

Beware of short term longevity coaches about to become boring at ages 62 and up.

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

17 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I wonder what Iowa fans thought when they hired Todd Licklighter or IU fans when they hired Archie Miller (I know how I felt)

Or Illinois fans when they hired John Groce

Or Minnesota fans when they hired Dan Monson. 

I could go on…there are many more examples of coaches failing to make the jump to high major.…and all those coaches had FAR more experience in division 1 than McCollum. D2 to Indiana in 1 year is a crazy jump. The point is, it’s a gamble…a gamble that is not necessary this go around. We don’t need to hire McCollum when there’s more viable candidates with far more experience. 

I agree but I think it’s about a couple things: 1. You have to hire the right assistants to fill in the voids of your weaknesses… 2. You have to be a great X’s and O’s guy and also great at making in game adjustments… 3. you and a couple people on your staff need to be great recruiters….4. You have to push for IU to hire a GM because it’s really needed in this day and age and it needs to be a homerun hire 

[HoosierSadaseci]

24 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I would bet a lot that our next coach is already coaching another college team. 

This...hopefully our next coach will be coaching in the tournament...but not too long into the tournament...we need to get this done sooner than later...

[JF87]

I've been trying to talk myself into supporting Will Wade as an option.  The fact that he paid (or at least tried to pay) players gave him a sleaze factor that I haven't been able to shake.  Wade definitely can coach, and he has the personality to succeed at IU. 

Looking back, a lot of the major schools were cheating in some capacity.  Adidas was paying players to attend Kansas and Louisville.  Nike was paying players to attend Kentucky, Duke, and North Carolina.  Pitino, Self, Calipari, Williams, and Coach K may have insulated themselves from those conversations, but I will never believe that they weren't aware.   

As a society, most of us believe people should get second chances.  Knight brought in some assistants that needed second chances.  IU gave Sampson a second chance and that bit us in the rear.  Sampson's third act is going well.

My guess is that Wade would win big at IU.  His show cause penalty ends June 21, 2025.  Would IU consider hiring Wade when his season ends and suspending him until that date?  I doubt it, but Wade will get another P5 job somewhere.  Probably ASU.  

[Willkie71]

16 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I thought that was just at UL? Or are other schools bringing in prostitutes?

Well, one of the recruits in that scandal said he wouldn't consider any school that couldn't guarantee he would get laid on the recruiting visit. As memory serves I think he wound up at OSU, LOL. Can't remember his name and who knows if that was true ;-)

[MrBBall]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://x.com/burban1087/status/1898402754688676324?s=46

Honest question to the group:

who fits the bill of:

- will run to the portal not from it

-create a culture that is uniquely Indiana basketball

share names that fit the criteria Scott shared