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This should go without saying obviously, but there will be no press conference tomorrow. I’ll be able to take the lid off a bit later in the week. But will say this, anybody providing details right no

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I’ve had several PM’s so wanted to drop a quick line to the broader board. Love this group and fully intend to continue to contribute to the community, Im not going anywhere. (Sorry to a few of you) B

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So I couldn’t get much from him unfortunately. But, to me that’s a good thing. There’s been pretty much zero chatter, nor leaks for a month about coaches. He said it doesn’t matter that the season is

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45 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Pitino would have been a great hire in 2001.  Shame that search committee didn’t interview anyone…

He would have won a lot if he got the job back then, maybe a title, though we probably would have had navigate some sort of off court incident when he was here lol.  Overall he likely would have been a big net positive.  Just another what-if in IUBB lore.

Standard contract is 6 years. What coach do you think would have the best chance of winning multiple conference championships and a natty over the next 6 years? At Indiana. We've had 4 or 5 interesting teams the last 30 years. I'd take Pitino in a heartbreak.  Our next hire might be sooner than if we somehow catch lightening in a bottle this time, but we would make that hire from position excellence again vs chaos. He did look like Mr. Rourke from fantasy Island today though. 

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22 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

Since the tourney was expanded to 64 teams in 1985 there have been 39 national champions. 35 of them have been a 3-seed or higher. 25 have been a 1 seed.

Barely backing into the tournament is not a recipe for success. Indiana's highest seed in the tournament under Woodson was 4 in 2023, and they got ran off the floor by 5-seed Miami (who would go on to the Final Four, to be fair).

Under Crean, Indiana was a 4-seed in 2012, 1-seed in 2013, 10-seed in 2015, and a 5-seed in 2016.

Under Sampson IU went to the tourney both years, as a 7-seed in 2007 and an 8-seed in 2008.

Under Mike Davis, IU was a 4-seed in 2001, 5-seed in 2002, 7-seed in 2003, and a 6-seed in 2006

Under Knight, from 1994-2000 Indiana made the tournament every year but was not seeded higher than 6 at any point.

Aside from 2013, Indiana has not been a 1-seed (or higher than a 3-seed) since 1993.

Statistically Indiana has not put themselves in a position to even remotely compete for a national title more than once in the last 32 years.

Let's compare to a similar program in terms of historical success, fan support, finances, etc. -- Kansas

Under Bill Self, Kansas has not missed a single NCAA tournament. They've been a 1-seed ten times, a 2-seed three times, a 3-seed three times, and a 4-seed four times. They've won two national championships, both as a 1-seed.

This demonstrates two things, 1) how difficult it is to win the tournament even as a high seed, and 2) that winning a national championship requires a degree of consistent success over many years.

There is no excuse given the similarities between Kansas and Indiana that we cannot achieve similar success. I do not expect our next coach to emulate the statistics of Bill Self -- that would be insane. But I do expect that we can start achieving SOME degree of consistent success so that we can be in a position to be competitive in the tournament. There is no excuse with our resources for Indiana to be struggling to make the tournament, and getting consistently outclassed when they do.

Appreciate you putting these stats together to help support this! 

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29 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

There is no excuse with our resources for Indiana to be struggling to make the tournament, and getting consistently outclassed when they do.

To add injury to insult with the information you provided IU has only had 4 years out of the last 16 where they finished with a winning conference record.  

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3 hours ago, BA47591 said:

Standard contract is 6 years. What coach do you think would have the best chance of winning multiple conference championships and a natty over the next 6 years? At Indiana. We've had 4 or 5 interesting teams the last 30 years. I'd take Pitino in a heartbreak.  Our next hire might be sooner than if we somehow catch lightening in a bottle this time, but we would make that hire from position excellence again vs chaos. He did look like Mr. Rourke from fantasy Island today though. 

In my opinion Rick is a top-5 CBB coach of all time, maybe top-3.  Brad would likely do very well.  Rick is up there, I have a hard time factoring in how much his age would be an issue.  

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Okay, now that’s how you third jersey. Those are nice. Also s/o Chris for spoiling this at like noon today lol

And Adidas will never make them available for the general public....

Such a terrible partner for fan gear. My friends from UT and UNC have so much cool stuff. I’m constantly jealous. 

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