General Coach Candidate News

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

I'd gamble on the upside of McCollum, but I totally understand this perspective. 

I’m sure McCollum knows his X’s and O’s, but I just have no interest in hiring a guy who has to learn every other aspect of the job on the fly. Can he schmooze with donors? Can he handle the egos that come with recruiting million dollar teenagers? How does he handle 15k hostile road crowds? Plenty of guys across industries are stars at lower levels but can’t cut it at the very top. In no circumstance should a school of IU’s brand and NIL funds have to gamble on McCollum being a guy who can. 

[Scotty R]

14 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

To state it differently: no coaches with McCollum's background have succeeded OR failed at IU's level. Absolutely inherent risk in that. 

Nate Oats was a high school coach and within 8 years he got the Alabama job. Also there is a risk with anyone you hire

[MikeRoberts]

20 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

What about Beard would be uniquely Indiana? The man has never lived here or coached in Indiana. He's built the same culture at Texas Tech, Texas, and Ole Miss.

There isn’t anyone that truly fits your question. It doesn’t exist. That’s an odd thing to say you are looking for if you are Dolson. Is Cig uniquely Indiana? Then he was uniquely James Madison the year prior. 
 

I don’t think having lived in Indiana should be a criteria or something you look for when choosing our coach and I don’t take those comments to mean that at all.

we need a winning culture from our student managers to the players to the assistants, head coaches, trainers etc. Everyone has to be locked in and on the same page, committed to the team and winning first. That should become the culture here if we hire the right guy

[Ryno6284]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Scott Dolson 1,000,000% has superior information.

Probably like CIA type info!

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m sure McCollum knows his X’s and O’s, but I just have no interest in hiring a guy who has to learn every other aspect of the job on the fly. Can he schmooze with donors? Can he handle the egos that come with recruiting million dollar teenagers? How does he handle 15k hostile road crowds? Plenty of guys across industries are stars at lower levels but can’t cut it at the very top. In no circumstance should a school of IU’s brand and NIL funds have to gamble on McCollum being a guy who can. 

Maybe he can be great at it.

He has zero resume for doing it though.

That’s why the vetting process for a guy like Stevens would be less critical and the vetting process for McCollum would be incredibly critical.

[PartyintheVillas]

2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

There isn’t anyone that truly fits your question. It doesn’t exist. That’s an odd thing to say you are looking for if you are Dolson. Is Cig uniquely Indiana? Then he was uniquely James Madison the year prior. 
 

I don’t think having lived in Indiana should be a criteria or something you look for when choosing our coach and I don’t take those comments to mean that at all.

we need a winning culture from our student managers to the players to the assistants, head coaches, trainers etc. Everyone has to be locked in and on the same page, committed to the team and winning first. That should become the culture here if we hire the right guy

Yep, that was my point. People love the Chris Beard/RMK connection like that makes him RMK II. The RMK connection has not helped a dozen coaches. It's something that doesn't matter at all if someone has it or doesn't.

[GP711]

1 hour ago, Paye32 said:

Not doubting the info but why would they want to put such a distraction on the current team heading into the BTT/ postseason play. Seems insensitive and irresponsible if true. Jmo

I’m talking about leaks, not school announcement lol

[Pagoda]

33 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I’d say it differently. Gotta trust the very smart people who have complete access and insight into the process.

Dolson is a very talented and experienced basketball guy.

So while I don’t think it’ll be Beard, if it is that means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his personal issues.

If it’s Wade? That means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his NCAA issues.

If it’s McCollum? That means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his D1 inexperience issues.

This is how I feel.  I have like 1% to 5% of the information Scott has.  I've never interviewed these coaches to understand: (i) their personality, (ii) why they have become successful, (iii) how they would translate from their current job to IU, (iv) what their vision is for the program, (v) what resources they want, and (vi) what comes up in their background check and references.

Nor do I really know what coach profile would succeed at IU.  I've never observed behind the scenes how Archie and Tom struggled, or what Kelvin got right when we was here, or how Cig operates.  I haven't spoke with other ADs to learn from their hiring successes and mistakes.

It's a cheap out, but I can't take a strong position on most coach candidates because I just don't know.  There are maybe a few pretty obvious homeruns and duds, but for most candidates I'm not sure, so I've got to trust Scott gets it right.  Fingers crossed.

[Scotty R]

8 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I understand your logic. Past history shows these would be “no’s.” Let’s see what happens…I have a feeling Dolson is getting a good one here.

I would love to be wrong and we can get a TJO or Drew. I would have Stevens first but that probably is a huge long shot

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Maybe he can be great at it.

He has zero resume for doing it though.

That’s why the vetting process for a guy like Stevens would be less critical and the vetting process for McCollum would be incredibly critical.

You’d have to get very far down the candidate list before vetting him would make sense. If IU gets that far down the list, well, that says everything about the state of the program. 

[PartyintheVillas]

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Mike Woodson the coach is about as far away from Bob Knight culture as one can possibly get. 

Bunch of other failures on that list as head coaches. Coaches with RMK connections have failed more than succeeded. Also, Beard's team culture is not the same at Knight's. He just coached him with for a brief time, like dozens of others who have mostly failed. Most coaches fail regardless of coaching tree. Anything connected to Bob Knight is a non sequitur.

[Scotty R]

5 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Probably like CIA type info!

That is what the search firm is for

[AZ Hoosier]

35 minutes ago, westgym said:

Not so much that it’s “all above board now”, but that it’s not being policed/regulated.  Under the coming revenue sharing model and the 20.5M cap, NIL collectives will be more closely monitored to be certain players are “earning” their NIL so as to not to work around the cap.  It will put a damper on some of the monies by collectives that have been funneled to players as pay for play.

*wink wink*

Looks good on paper...

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

39 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Honest question to the group:

who fits the bill of:

- will run to the portal not from it

-create a culture that is uniquely Indiana basketball

share names that fit the criteria Scott shared

I know that it was said that Quin Snyder would be leader for Texas job but if Texas doesn’t fire coach would anyone be interested in Quin Snyder in this day and age?

[JPCIVOP]

25 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There isn’t a “uniquely Indiana” culture. The Indiana culture was really just Bob Knight culture. The past 25 years have shown that IU is just another school without Knight. So, if you want to bring back that culture, bring back a coach with a Bob Knight mentality.

Not saying that’s the perfect move to make, but that’s Beard. 

I'm going to disagree a little here; Knight would have won anywhere, won titles anywhere. But there is a way that Indiana - as a state - has a unique basketball culture. 'Hoosiers' isn't just a fiction. In the Big Ten, there isn't another state where basketball means more. Knight tapped into that, but it runs deeper than him. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 minute ago, PartyintheVillas said:

Bunch of other failures on that list as head coaches. Coaches with RMK connections have failed more than succeeded. Also, Beard's team culture is not the same at Knight's. He just coached him with for a brief time, like dozens of others who have mostly failed. Most coaches fail regardless of coaching tree. Anything connected to Bob Knight is a non sequitur.

It’s not about Bob Knight connections, it’s about the Bob Knight mentality/mindset. Bob Knight was many things, but he wasn’t soft, he wasn’t a pushover, and his teams weren’t either. That’s what a “uniquely Indiana” culture is. 

A full-on Knight mentality wouldn’t work today. But all you have to do is watch the Pitino video from earlier this year and St. John’s results to see that it still works today. Teams take on the personality of their coach. 

[LamarCheeks]

24 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I know that it was said that Quin Snyder would be leader for Texas job but if Texas doesn’t fire coach would anyone be interested in Quin Snyder in this day and age?

No. Not interested. And IU wouldn't be either. 

But I will say this -- and as a jealous, folically challenged man, it's a hill I would die on ... 

No candidate would have better salad than Quin Snyder. 

 

[JPCIVOP]

3 minutes ago, JPCIVOP said:

I'm going to disagree a little here; Knight would have won anywhere, won titles anywhere. But there is a way that Indiana - as a state - has a unique basketball culture. 'Hoosiers' isn't just a fiction. In the Big Ten, there isn't another state where basketball means more. Knight tapped into that, but it runs deeper than him. 

This article puts some numbers to that.

https://www.wishtv.com/sports/indiana-among-top-states-that-nba-players-call-home/

[TargaFlorio]

7 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I know that it was said that Quin Snyder would be leader for Texas job but if Texas doesn’t fire coach would anyone be interested in Quin Snyder in this day and age?

Think I read that Snyder has a house in Austin and loves it there. He might only be interested in the UT job.

[iu eyedoc]

Will Wade 42 years old

Won at VCU 51-20 Conf Champ yr 1

Won at LSU 105-51 Conf Champ yr 2

Torvik Off rankings at LSU: 35----10----4---------5-----96

Torvik Defrankings at LSU:147---58---185----116----8

 

Winning at McNeese ST 47-8 Conf Champ yr 1

 

Commit heinous crime of offering money to a recruit.

Show cause penalty expires this June

Will have made NCAA tourney 7 of 8 years after this season

 

Great candidate.

Prove me wrong