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[Chris007 57,491]

11 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather have the Hall Monitor Squad trying to police the Stevens posts than the endless Beard morality debate. 

It is rather telling how the Purdue jockstraps show up for the Stevens stuff but nothing for the Beard. 

[SlammySammy 859]

I feel like I am watching Court TV litigating the Beard situation.....over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

[Alistair Smash 200]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

It is rather telling how the Purdue jockstraps show up for the Stevens stuff but nothing for the Beard. 

I resemble that remark. 

[Chris007 57,491]

9 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

When he bit, strangled, bruised, and battered her. I don't care if it was "self-defense" or not. If you're immediate reaction is to lay hands on a person for breaking something a simple as your reading glasses, let alone your freaking fiance, you forfeit the right to coach basketball at Indiana. You make $5mil a year, go buy a new pair in the morning. 

Anybody defending Beard's actions is a LOSER!

I like this AH. But in all seriousness, I totally agree. I don't care what a woman does, walk away

[VFury 483]

6 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Whooooaaaaaaa.......ssnappy crossed a line...."human garbage"???! Seriously???? LOL.... I will take umbrage with that one. You want to stir up some ****, refer to Knight as "human garbage" here....

See what I mean? Knight was objectively a terrible person and you don't care because he won. Thanks for proving my point.

[EasyEJay 424]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

It is rather telling how the Purdue jockstraps show up for the Stevens stuff but nothing for the Beard. 

Chris007 is coming out swinging this morning! Lets keep the Good vibes rolling on a Friday 

[SlammySammy 859]

Just now, Chris007 said:

I like this AH. But in all seriousness, I totally agree. I don't care what a woman does, walk away

Can we really judge without knowing what it was he was reading? Seriously....

[IndianaSconnie90 655]

1 hour ago, IUGRAD06 said:

None of those.  I am just not a POS that thinks what he did was OK.  I am a male in his 40s.  But way to go to show your true colors there…

The Knight comment…..We need a reboot of this program.  Just ditch the past and move on.  It’s holding us back.  That’s my point.  No one should give two craps whether a coach is associated with Knight.  It shouldn’t even be a criteria.  

I would like to know the pieces of **** you're referring to on this board who apparently think that what he did was ok. I mean if you're going to throw that line out there, specifically on this board, I'm left to believe that you're calling folks on the board POS and you need to take a xannex or a hit off the doobie.

[Chris007 57,491]

8 minutes ago, Alistair Smash said:

I believe Beard is a terrific coach and would be successful at IU. I believe in second chances. I also believe any consideration of Beard must be made with GREAT scrutiny. 

I am happy that so many on this board have not lived through a domestic violence situation. For those of us who have been involved with DV investigations from a law enforcement standpoint, the public information related to Beard’s arrest demands a thorough investigation by the university. There exist questions related to liability if a new incident were to arise along with legitimate concerns as to the university’s reputation. 
 

I would caution those that dismiss these allegations out of hand. It’s sometimes easier if you ask what your mother or sister would’ve done if the allegations were true, just to look at it from a different point of view.
 

Recanting victims are unfortunately commonplace in these situations.  I know our culture is moving away from and discarding expertise which is a separate rant on its own. But there are professionals that IU can draw on to further consider the facts surrounding the incident, and whether they believe, even if true, Beard has taken steps to rehabilitate himself. 
 

I’m all for giving him a look. IU just needs to tread with extreme caution, and we all would do better, myself included, to take domestic violence allegations seriously. 

That is a 5-star post. Appreciate you

[IndianaSconnie90 655]

50 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

If you can get Beard for maybe 4 million then try to run it by the president. But both know their jobs would be on the line. I've already heard of professors on campus who said they would have people follow him around town taking pictures of him getting drunk like he still does in Oxford. He would make it through the football season. It's a no go

Strange that nobody in Oxford does the same, at least not that I'm aware of...

[rayl456 726]

13 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Brad F*****g Stevens !

Thank you.

[Silat Player 1,257]

21 hours ago, IU Prof said:

This thread if it really does take 3 more weeks to name a new coach:

 

 

22 minutes ago, HoosierSadaseci said:

I want to like and laugh at this post at the same time...

Well, at least we don't have any sanctimonious people on ths board. I mean, thank God for that...

[AZ Hoosier 9,723]

8 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

IU is making an investment when hiring the next coach.  The analogy doesn’t really apply.  It isn’t about ‘forgiveness’. 

There are two parts to this... forgiveness and accountability. Just because you said "I'm sorry" doesn't absolve you accountability for your actions. The event was investigated and documented. UT saw fit to terminate him over the event. He walked away rather than challenge them for the buyout money. All of those factors say something to me. The DA ultimately dropped the charges. There could be any number of reasons for that. And he has not been convicted of anything in relation to that episode.

We're only 2 years removed from that alcohol-fueled event, and if one is to believe the reports on the internet (yeah, could be suspect/spun/exaggerated), it doesn't appear that the alcohol situation has changed... so the obvious question is "will it happen again?" and we can never truly be sure. All we can say is "it has not happened again yet".

Yeah, he can coach... but at what cost? We all make mistakes, we all do things that we regret, etc... but there are levels of transgressions, and for me, this is still a big deal. For me, it's a matter of personal judgment - if he has a problem with alcohol (and he has to recognize whether or not he does), then I believe that he's one "bender" away from another event.

Whether to hire him to coach at your school or not is a decision for the administration to make... but I personally do have a problem with hiring him because we don't know if/when it happens again... and it's not a risk that I am willing to take.

With that, I'm done with the Beard discussion. Dolson will decide. Then I will decide where my fandom will lay.

[rcbowla 7,793]

49 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

If you can get Beard for maybe 4 million then try to run it by the president. But both know their jobs would be on the line. I've already heard of professors on campus who said they would have people follow him around town taking pictures of him getting drunk like he still does in Oxford. He would make it through the football season. It's a no go

There's a word for that....stalking. For the record Beard is not the guy I think IU will hire and probably shouldn't but if someone actually did what you are saying here they may have as big of issues as Beard and his drinking.

[Home Jersey 13,201]

10 minutes ago, VFury said:

See what I mean? Knight was objectively a terrible person and you don't care because he won. Thanks for proving my point.

I am not interested in moral judgements. I do not think the things Knight did make him “objectively a terrible person.” I don’t even think what Beard allegedly did does necessarily either. Nobody is irredeemable and I’m not the one who has to forgive / make these calls. Knights bad behavior was after he already had the job. Big difference #1. Knight was fired ultimately because of risk management… his results no longer justified him being here. He wasn’t fired/not hired because of his morals / off court record. Not hiring Beard isn’t about a moral judgement, it’s a risk management decision IMO. I’m actually pleased they are apparently meeting with him and doing due diligence. If they hire him, I will accept they know more than me and are comfortable with him. If they don’t hire him, nobody can continue claiming IU is so much “holier than thou”

[iu2win 144]

24 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

People gloss over the fact that his fiance went in to the room where he was sitting grabbed his reading glasses and snapped them.  How does she have a bite mark on her arm?  Did beard just go up and bite her arm?  No she likely jumped on his back and he did it in self defense.  

Far too many readers gloss over Beard's report that she went after his "private parts".  I'm not saying that excuses ANY of his behavior and the marks on her body; however, pain is a great motivator.

[Chris007 57,491]

Just now, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Strange that nobody in Oxford does the same, at least not that I'm aware of...

You're not aware. But if for some weird chance, we hire him, we'll see what happens here. 

[iu eyedoc 3,736]

1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm hearing that Dolson has been having some serious behind-the-scenes talks with Chris Collins' representatives. 

Scott and the IU administration like that Collins is from a fellow B1G school, runs a clean program and has taken them to their first three NCAA tourneys. They think he can really prosper at IU with better NIL and easier admissions. And Collins thinks he'd be able to more at IU than at NW. 

Dolson, who knows his hoops, also thinks Collins' is a whiz when it comes to X's and O's. Plus, we just can't beat the guy, so we're looking to get him to join us. I wouldn't be surprised when Northwestern's season ends to hear an announcement of Collins to IU. 

OK, I completely made that up. Just trying to create a diversion from all this sordid Chris Beard debate. (BTW, I actually do think Collins would be a very good hire for IU). 

Robjohns tweeting he is hearing Collins is a candidate rumblings from those that know in 3...2...1...

[AH1971 2,360]

Just now, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Strange that nobody in Oxford does the same, at least not that I'm aware of...

IU has already had to fire one coach for abusive behavior who...checks notes...was a mentor to Chris Beard.

They've fired a football coach in the last decade for abuse and mistreatment towards injured players.

It's currently in the middle of a lawsuit where former athletes are accusing a team doctor of inappropriate conduct.

 

[beaver56 66]

1 hour ago, Pagoda said:

Coach Bell respects RMK

Pete Bell is no better than Sampson, a cheater.  He admitted it himself in the press conference.  No way I want him leading our program.  I do know he does reside in Naples though, so there is that.