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5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

You mean the guy that was Nick Saban’s assistant at Alabama for multiple years? And had his non-power 5 team ranked in the top 25?

Apples to oranges my friend.

Minutiae kind sir. 

Titles translate

 

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4 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Michigan doesn’t make exceptions for transfers unless they are grad transfers.  Not the same as northwestern but there are limits.  If Danny Wolf had been Joe Schmoe from Auburn instead of an Ivy League guy, it might have been an issue.

Michigan football without question makes exceptions - very, very easily. They often use the ‘academically ineligible’ excuse only when they’ve changed their mind on a recruit for other reasons/concerns.  It’s a soft way to back out - that further promotes their ‘high standards’ propaganda. eg. Caleb Love  It then slips that a player is academically ineligible…purposeful furthering the public perception of their esteemed educational standards. 

That being said, much more difficult to get into than Indiana as a non-athlete undergrad.

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4 minutes ago, brandct said:

I think each county has their own, but I think Floyd Counties can’t land private jets.

Ned’s flies out of Clark County. I know one of the pilots that flies for him. No, I don’t know him well enough to get any info, he’s related to a family friend. I don’t think he would talk anyway, he likes his job. 

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1 minute ago, VFury said:

McCollum isn't the Cignetti of basketball. Stop saying it. Cignetti was an assistant for Nick Saban, coached under some elite teams for a long time before becoming a head coach. McCollum has been buried in D2 for years and never sniffed D1 until this year, and is good but not different from how Drake was before he got there. And that's just surface level. People complain about Tony Bennett, but McCollum actually has a slower pace than Bennett did. The chances he ends in disaster is a lot higher than people are pretending it is.

Tony Bennett is McCollum's ceiling. Yet people would scream bloody murder if we hire Bennett, and celebrate hiring McCollum. Go figure...

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6 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

To me, it’s that I think Mick Cronin would produce similar results to what we saw in the Tom crean era and McCollum could be better.

McCollum is riskier but has a higher ceiling IMO

On the high end I agree with you, but Cronins floor is miles above TC. I think the main thing pro-Cronin is simply getting us back to being a consistent tournament team. We have to crawl before we can walk. I’d say that’s all but guaranteed with him.

 McCollum remains an unknown on that front no matter how well he’s done at a lower level. But I think he probably is the real deal, this hire is just too critical and people have Archie phobia of the flavor of the month so to speak— and he had some better wins. 

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1 hour ago, Solsberryberries said:

Unpopular to “meh” coaches with the IU fanbase that I think would fit here: (I’ve had to take myself to this mental space because I can’t hold out for Stevens)

-Alford

-Brownell

-Fife

-McCollum

-McCasslin

-McDermott

As people, I think they would do well with the IU fanbase and the Bloomington community.

Sols really? On what universe would Fife be a candidate?  Would argue against Alford as well but Fife, as head coach?

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Where and how many times JFK got shot is interesting, the true question I have is the connection of JFK-RFK assassinations. Who ordered it, or natural coincidence? Anyways and more importantly, Stevens will be the coach and if he isn’t we all know what IU needs to do: #BringTomHome 

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14 minutes ago, VFury said:

McCollum isn't the Cignetti of basketball. Stop saying it. Cignetti was an assistant for Nick Saban, coached under some elite teams for a long time before becoming a head coach. McCollum has been buried in D2 for years and never sniffed D1 until this year, and is good but not different from how Drake was before he got there. And that's just surface level. People complain about Tony Bennett, but McCollum actually has a slower pace than Bennett did. The chances he ends in disaster is a lot higher than people are pretending it is.

Here we go again with the pace argument….. pace is not a determinant of success in college basketball. It’s not. Efficiency is. 
 

If McCollums ceiling is Tony Bennett then sign me up. Thanks for proving my point that McCollums ceiling is higher than Cronin’s. 
 

And your comment that he was “buried in D2 without sniffing D1 until recently” is absurd and shows your ignorance towards the matter.  He was approached multiple times by D1 schools and was selective in choosing Drake. He wasn’t buried in D2….. he completely dominated it. 

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5 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Sols really? On what universe would Fife be a candidate?  Would argue against Alford as well but Fife, as head coach?

On the basis that Fife was originally brought here to be coach in waiting. Things did not go well while he was here, but I don’t think that was his fault. He was considered in the top five last go around, so what’s changed?

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1 minute ago, Solsberryberries said:

On the basis that Fife was originally brought here to be coach in waiting. Things did not go well while he was here, but I don’t think that was his fault. He was considered in the top five last go around, so what’s changed?

He was considered in the top five last time around?

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1 minute ago, Solsberryberries said:

On the basis that Fife was originally brought here to be coach in waiting. Things did not go well while he was here, but I don’t think that was his fault. He was considered in the top five last go around, so what’s changed?

I don’t think he was in many people’s top 5. 
He got fired and no schools have hired him even as an assistant since. 
if the new coach wants him as an assistant great, but that is all. 
 

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13 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

On the high end I agree with you, but Cronins floor is miles above TC. I think the main thing pro-Cronin is simply getting us back to being a consistent tournament team. We have to crawl before we can walk. I’d say that’s all but guaranteed with him.

 McCollum remains an unknown on that front no matter how well he’s done at a lower level. But I think he probably is the real deal, this hire is just too critical and people have Archie phobia of the flavor of the month so to speak— and he had some better wins. 

Cronin went 16-17 at UCLA last season in his fifth year there

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22 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Tony Bennett is McCollum's ceiling. Yet people would scream bloody murder if we hire Bennett, and celebrate hiring McCollum. Go figure...

Exactly…and Bennett actually won a D1 National Title. If you’re arguing for McCollum then let’s get Bennett lol. McCollum is way down the list so I think this is all a moot point…but alum and fellow fans wonder why we have to make a move every 3-5 years. It’s exact hires like this that do it. Could McCollum be a very good coach? Yes, but there’s an equal or even higher chance he’s a complete dud. No thanks when we have so many other viable candidates. 
 

And stop with the Cignetti talk and comparison..his mentor was arguably the greatest college football coach ever whom he coached with for multiple years. Cignetti also had more years in D1. 

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