General Coach Candidate News

[AZ Hoosier 8,919]

6 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

That's absolutely fine. 

More impressed with taking UCLA to a final four or more impressed with taking Oklahoma? Or is it all the same to you? 

The Final Four is the Final Four... but doing it in a place with a reputation (good or bad) like UCLA could be easier than a relatively remote place like Oklahoma... of course, it could also be expected more...

I see it as. same-same. Get thee to a Final Four.

[WRSMick55 106]

29 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I’d call $Bill and see if he wants a change of scenery.  Seemed pretty checked out last night.  

Fun fact. Remember Larry Bird saying something to the effect that after so many years you need to move on because players stop listening and things get stale. Doubt Self would leave Kansas, don’t really have an opinion o; him. How many years does he realistically want to coach?

[IUHoosierJoe 1,641]

2 minutes ago, WRSMick55 said:

Fun fact. Remember Larry Bird saying something to the effect that after so many years you need to move on because players stop listening and things get stale. Doubt Self would leave Kansas, don’t really have an opinion o; him. How many years does he realistically want to coach?

Last year and this year, Self reminds me of Knight’s last 6 years here….looks burned out and not as interested.

[Kentuckysucks 3,034]

2 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Last year and this year, Self reminds me of Knight’s last 6 years here….looks burned out and not as interested.

The Hunter Dickinson effect.

[RoadRage 2,508]

8 minutes ago, WRSMick55 said:

Fun fact. Remember Larry Bird saying something to the effect that after so many years you need to move on because players stop listening and things get stale. Doubt Self would leave Kansas, don’t really have an opinion o; him. How many years does he realistically want to coach?

I think he said 3 years, I fully expect Woody to quote Bird on Senior Night!

[OKHOOSIER 4,491]

8 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

The Final Four is the Final Four... but doing it in a place with a reputation (good or bad) like UCLA could be easier than a relatively remote place like Oklahoma... of course, it could also be expected more...

I see it as. same-same. Get thee to a Final Four.

I don’t think we are being entirely fair to OK here. They had three final fours, 13 conference championships, a few conference tournament championships among other things prior to Kelvin getting there. They weren’t the little sisters of the poor. 

[Asha’man 116]

4 hours ago, ronzo4IU said:

I get what you’re saying, but like you said all things being equal I think we need to get somebody in here that has plenty of energy and excitement to build a program in the right way and not just rely on NIL.  I just think for the long haul and to get somebody that’s gonna be here for a considerable amount of time there are options of younger coaches out there that I think would fit the bill and be better than getting a coach for 5 to 7 years and then have to re-hire again. 

I think whoever gets the job needs to have the energy to match what the job demands. They need to be able to handle the “social” aspects of meeting with donors, high school coaches, and give speeches. 
 

Just because someone is younger doesn’t mean they will be here for the long haul.  If someone is elite in college and young they can go to the NBA, see Donovan and Stevens. And to me if someone is 60-62 years old will give a solid decade, someone in their 50’s could give 2 decades. I don’t think we should take a flyer on a young coach by emphasizing a multi decade hire when the game will change and we will likely need to change to the “meta” of that day. 
 

NIL is now the lifeblood of every program so coaching X’s and O’s will be paramount for national championship success imo.  The talent should always be there moving forward. The HC will need to be superb at roster construction and getting the pieces that make it work. 

[IUrocker 2,435]

I actually feel better about getting May after just 1 year at Michigan rather than him being there longer and establishing roots. His bags still aren’t fully unpacked yet. It’s as easy as he appreciates the opportunity Michigan gave him, he turned them around, but he got an offer he can’t refuse to coach at home. I think the only way Dusty signs an extension with UM is if it’s because Dolson isn’t trying to get him.

[SlammySammy 533]

What do we think the ceiling is for throwing cash at Dusty? Are we willing to make him the top paid coach in the Big Ten and beyond just to get him? Do we heavily load that contract with conditions like Cignetti for bonuses? I.E. You win the Big Ten you get 2 million bonus, You go to the tournament, you get 1 million bonus, etc?

[realTomCrean 1,925]

Sampson and IU to mend past wrongdoings. He's coming back

[68Hoosier 919]

Just now, realTomCrean said:

Sampson and IU to mend past wrongdoings. He's coming back

Hide all your potted plants.

[TadQueasy 1,339]

1 minute ago, SlammySammy said:

What do we think the ceiling is for throwing cash at Dusty? Are we willing to make him the top paid coach in the Big Ten and beyond just to get him? Do we heavily load that contract with conditions like Cignetti for bonuses? I.E. You win the Big Ten you get 2 million bonus, You go to the tournament, you get 1 million bonus, etc?

[HinnyHoosier 5,550]

3 hours ago, HoosierPapi4 said:

After last nights loss

 

Mick Cronin: "All we're worried about is our shooting, ... Our crowd's mind is on the wrong stuff. They make it worse. The stress in Pauley is crazy. How about help the guy, cheer for the guy? He's not trying to miss the free throw. Everyone's mind is on the wrong stuff."

 

Sounds like he’d handle our fan base really well…

Yeah, I was actually warming to the idea of him but that's a red flag. I know he's a curmudgeon and honestly that's ok, but to go directly at the fans after your team threw the game away.... That won't fly here (unless you're a true fan).

[iu eyedoc 2,953]

12 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I think he said 3 years, I fully expect Woody to quote Bird on Senior Night!

It may be more a paraphrase, "After 4 years of players not finding their own shots I am moving on with my wallet stuffed fat."

[SlammySammy 533]

Just now, HinnyHoosier said:

Yeah, I was actually warming to the idea of him but that's a red flag. I know he's a curmudgeon and honestly that's ok, but to go directly at the fans after your team threw the game away.... That won't fly here (unless you're a true fan).

DITTO....I was warming up to him but he sounds like he would not handle our fishbowl very well at this point....maybe he just had a bad night but I say we avoid.

[RoadRage 2,508]

1 minute ago, IUrocker said:

I actually feel better about getting May after just 1 year at Michigan rather than him being there longer and establishing roots. His bags still aren’t fully unpacked yet. It’s as easy as he appreciates the opportunity Michigan gave him, he turned them around, but he got an offer he can’t refuse to coach at home. 

I hope this is true! If May would bolt for IU after only one season at Michigan he will be hated by Michigan fans for eternity, big deal, he gets booed every time IU plays at Michigan. I don’t think the college basketball world as a whole can/will blame him for taking his dream job. If he really wants the IU job, this may be his only chance, we might get lucky and find our coach for the next 20 years. Then again, after us bringing Woody back, he may no longer have interest in the IU job…Michigan is going to throw some big bucks and a huge buy out at him any time now, he signs that and his future is in Ann Arbor!

[realTomCrean 1,925]

I want to retract my last statement, as Kelvin is 70 years old. Back on the Stevens train

[go iu bb 7,410]

4 hours ago, MrBBall said:

JFC. There are multiple incidents with Beard. MULTIPLE! He beats a woman multiple times, his fiancée, and is a constant drinker around campus. Not happening. Nope. No matter how some of you keep trying to wish it into existence. Not. Happening. I’m not joking. 

It's really not worth arguing about at this point. I've stopped. We know he won't be hired and no amount of some people on message boards and social media trying to wish the hire into existence won't be any more effective than everyone trying to wish the Brad Stevens hire into existence. He has the drinking which IU doesn't tolerate (see Kevin Wilson) as well as at least 1 DV incident (unlikely his first, especially considering the severity). Even if they disregard that, they know it would fracture the fanbase. No way IU signs up for that despite some people on the internet thinking it's not a big deal.

It is interesting to see who is willing to overlook or, worse, downplay DV in favor of hypothetically winning. I say hypothetically since his record isn't really all that impressive at the P5 level outside of 2 seasons that he hasn't been able to replicate.

Coach Facial Hair won't be hired. My advise is to just ignore talk about him.

[Trish 12,558]

15 hours ago, Mopladysman said:

Hope your right but what type of a guy is a dolson type of guy 

Dolson want's someone with a personality, he can crack a beer with or play a round of golf with. Cronin isn't that guy. 

[68Hoosier 919]

Just now, Trish said:

Dolson want's someone with a personality, he can crack a beer with or play a round of golf with. Cronin isn't that guy. 

Bring on Beard....  He will drink with him I'm told.