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1 minute ago, Papacap said:

If Miller won, no one would give a crap about his “fit”. It’s laughable that a program as bad as ours has been that some are so focused on that. Let’s make winning our culture 

Woody traumatized so many IU fans with the “true fans” senior day comments a good portion of the fan base wants a coach who will “just do whatever it takes to win” and kiss fans butts even when it’s not warranted. Good luck finding a winner willing to do that. It’s like fans think they are the coach’s boss or something lol 

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5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Of course he's in people's top 5, they're some convinced he's a top 15 coach lol 

Well the numbers say he is. If your “eye-test” says otherwise that’s understandable and I’m not gonna litigate it again, you and I have already lol.. we have different opinions on that, all good.

You missed the main point of what I said. He’s top-5 in the realistic options if we are being honest about who is coming to IU. No one here making a wish list is gonna have him top-5 because no ones top-5s are generally rooted in reality. Cronin is somewhere in the 6-10 range, which is most likely the pool we find a coach if Dusty says no. I’ve always thought that, but there was no reason to argue it, we had plenty of trolls here to tell us how unrealistic we were. 

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56 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Because the team they are invested in lost a game they should have won.   Happens every night in college basketball.  Fans are passionate 

Last thing we need is for another coach to come in and tell us we aren’t true fans…..

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Cronin is about to be the youngest active coach to 500 career wins but he’s not good enough for IU lmfao 

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1 hour ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

"Indiana hires failed UCLA coach" is very on brand for us. 

Failed?  He has been to three sweet 16s, an elite 8 and a final four at UCLA in six years. 

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1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

Thanks for the response. Unless that’s a regular occurrence or indirectly related off court circumstances frustrating the fanbase, don’t think your home fans should be booing in that scenario. I’ll have the unpopular take here lol. It is on the coach to make sure the home environment is an advantage. That means doing your part to win… but fans have to do their part too. A coach holding the fanbase accountable is not inherently a dealbreaker for me. The way he said it was not good, but I get the sense some people don’t want a coach who will ever say anything to fans other than thank you. 

Exactly this... compare the commends Woodson made to/about the fans last Senior Day with how Cignetti called out the fans for the football team. Woodson drove the wedge deeper, and Cignetti was able to rally the fans around what he was doing in Memorial Stadium.

 

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1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Cronin is about to be the youngest active coach to 500 career wins but he’s not good enough for IU lmfao 

Apparently Bill Self isn’t either even if he had interest.  Some of our fans are nuts.

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2 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

Failed?  He has been to three sweet 16s, an elite 8 and a final four at UCLA in six years. 

But they have 6000 wins and 25 titles in the 70's LOL.

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4 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

Failed?  He has been to three sweet 16s, an elite 8 and a final four at UCLA in six years. 

Careful, we’ve already established a round only counts if it’s the one you lose in lol. 

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1 hour ago, Dave from Dayton said:

In a contract like that, I would speculate that it is because Michigan chose Dusty May.  Once a person has been selected and negotiation begins, that is the most advantageous time for the prospective hire.

That clause is in there probably because Dusty May insisted on it.  The only alternative would be if Michigan insisted on it and that does not make sense.

 

My thoughts are he's "only" paid 3.6milish/year ranking 12th in the conference which caused a low buyout.  Higher the salary the more they believe the more they want to hold on to.  

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7 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Cronin is about to be the youngest active coach to 500 career wins but he’s not good enough for IU lmfao 

When you wake up, you will love Mick Cronin…….

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21 minutes ago, JaybobHoosier said:

Last thing we need is for another coach to come in and tell us we aren’t true fans…..

Jaybob, I love your posts, so my response is not meant to be combative… just an attempt to talk about a different topic. 

Like many here I was turned off by the true fan comments. I think Woody has been horrible to the fanbase because he is insecure and has a big ego.

Cronin’s team yesterday led for 37 minutes and blew it at the end. Fans were booing the team as they were fighting through adversity rather than rallying around them to win… at home. Most coaches would be annoyed with that IMO. Obviously college is a completely different level than HS ball, but fans would probably not do that to a HS team for a few reasons. One of the big ones is the idea that you are “in community” with the players and staff who represent your HS team. Yes they are paid big in D1/P5, but the same concept exists in college - that this is a team you support because you’re in community with them.

A good leader knows how to build rapport with fans and get the best out of them. Pagoda made a great post about the coach having to be a coach for the fans too… Doesn’t seem Cronin has done that at UCLA, but my point is basically that fans are not above accountability either, as much as we call for it. Fans need to do our part and uphold their part of the pact with their program. That means cheering through good times and bad in the stadium.

I was okay with Woody being booed relentlessly because he earned it. Hopefully in the same situation as UCLA last night, with a new coach in their first season or two, IU fans wouldn’t be booing. If they were, I’d hope they’d be receptive to constructive criticism if the coach thinks it’s necessary for the health of the program. There are better ways to do it than Cronin yesterday but I don’t think it’s comparable to Woody’s behavior. 

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6 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Apparently Bill Self isn’t either even if he had interest.  Some of our fans are nuts.

He’s 62 and his last two years are well below his historical standard, the chance he’s washed or retiring is wayyyyyyyyyy greater than the chance he’s gonna move to Bloomington and reestablish what he’s got at KU

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5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Cronin is about to be the youngest active coach to 500 career wins but he’s not good enough for IU lmfao 

Maybe he tanked the MIN game so he could be in the spotlight a little longer. He plays a better opponent in OSU Sunday so maybe he goes for it then, but still only on streaming networks, so maybe he waits until cable tv game against Purdue.

 

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4 hours ago, RoadRage said:

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I keep telling you guys we are being conditioned for Cronin…..before this is over we will all be shaving our heads and chanting his name!

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31 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

19 FFs for UCLA 

5 FFs for Oklahoma 

A large portion of UCLA's appearances are the direct results of Sam Gilbert's illegal NIL long before NIL was a thing. Wooden cheated and should have an asterisk next to every NCAA title he "won".

But I digress...

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3 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

My thoughts are he's "only" paid 3.6milish/year ranking 12th in the conference which caused a low buyout.  Higher the salary the more they believe the more they want to hold on to.  

No, there are two buyouts, one if he leaves on his own, and one if they fire him. The school would still want the buyout if he leaves on his own to be as high as possible.

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21 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Woody traumatized so many IU fans with the “true fans” senior day comments a good portion of the fan base wants a coach who will “just do whatever it takes to win” and kiss fans butts even when it’s not warranted. Good luck finding a winner willing to do that. It’s like fans think they are the coach’s boss or something lol 

You mean to say that Saint Cig might not be as kind or intuitively perfect if people started booing during a two game losing streak?

Yessir. That is flat out true.

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1 minute ago, RoadRage said:

No, there are two buyouts, one if he leaves on his own, and one if they fire him. The school would still want the buyout if he leaves on his own to be as high as possible.

So, if May walks into the UM president's office and take a big #2 on their desk, we could get him cheaper?  Could be a good plan if Dolson plays his cards right. 

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2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

A large portion of UCLA's appearances are the direct results of Sam Gilbert's illegal NIL long before NIL was a thing. Wooden cheated and should have an asterisk next to every NCAA title he "won".

But I digress...

That's absolutely fine. 

More impressed with taking UCLA to a final four or more impressed with taking Oklahoma? Or is it all the same to you?