General Coach Candidate News

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10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’d love to land Beard. If we don’t land Beard but land some other top coach, I’d love that too. But if we, knowing Beard would take the job, end up hiring a Ben McCollum or some other either unproven or unremarkable guy, that’ll be a huge gut punch. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I’m expecting given this administration’s track record. 

I just don’t think we will consider him. The baggage is the only reason he’s even a legitimate candidate. There isn’t one without the other. No baggage=he’s still coaching his alma mater. But I understand your sentiment. Personally I don’t think we get to the McCollums so to speak. If we do, so be it, but I don’t think we get that far down the list. 

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7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The year Dusty is having at Michigan is better than any season IU has had since the 2015/2016 championship team, and that’s after taking over a team that finished last in the conference by three games last year. The worries I had about him last offseason are gone. 

Completely agree. I was luke warm on Dusty last year, but this year has answered a lot of my questions.

Plus I believe Beilein was heavily involved in consulting on UofM's search last Spring, and quickly identified May as the guy. That says a lot to me as well.

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22 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

But he’d give us a real basketball coach with a chance.  I’m a little worried for him tbh, because I don’t know if he’s a strong enough personality.  But if he wins enough, it’ll work out.  
 

Fife and Howard end up back on staff.  

If that happened, there’d be plenty of “strong personality energy” on the staff lol.

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37 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Seems to be very, very inebriated. That was from his time at Texas. Certainly possible that he has gotten help since then.

I don't think he has. There are stories about how he tried to quit drinking, but couldn't pull it off:

https://www.outkick.com/sports/texas-basketball-coach-chris-beard-is-once-again-drinking-beer

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15 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Why do people think Dusty doesn’t have a strong personality or isn’t “alpha” ? Genuinely curious what evidence there is of that. 

I mentioned it yesterday but Norlander has said several times this season that he didn’t take UL due to the fishbowl of it. No idea if that’s true. He Never mentioned the low buyout demand, and I have never found anything to support that oft mentioned claim. Maybe it’s true that it was a deal breaker? I dunno. 
 

In that same vein though, I agree with you I don’t understand where this “not an alpha” thing comes from lol. I don’t care if he’s a statue if he wins games. I know I don’t like Hurleys antics. 

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There’s a natural tendency to be attracted to an @$$-kicking, hyper-intense coach that wins.

But it’s also true that for a seemingly less intense coach like Stevens or May to be this successful there needs to be an extraordinary competitive fire and work ethic, albeit one that may not be as apparent to the public.

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I love to dream but reality is probably more like this...

"Scott, why are you calling me again man?!"

 

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Greg McDermott anyone?

He’d be lower on my list but if it comes to it, we could certainly do worse. Winner, recruits good kids, cheap. Gimme him over a Ben McCollum any day of the week. 

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National media guys talking about IU are hilarious. They're always like "IU sucks and the fans are delusional. Realistic coaching candidates: Brad Stevens, Bill Self, Mike Krzyzewski."

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Put me in the camp of I don’t care the personality. I don’t care the past issues. As long as they won’t continue that behavior. Who cares alpha or what. JUST WIN. I don’t know how any fan after the last 25-30 years of this, and especially the last 8+ is willing to have so many caveats on this or that. Just hire the person who will WIN

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

There’s a natural tendency to be attracted to an @$$-kicking, hyper-intense coach that wins.

But it’s also true that for a seemingly less intense coach like Stevens or May to be this successful, there is an extraordinary competitive fire and work ethic, albeit one that may not be as apparent to the public.

I think it's because we had Bob Knight here for so long. 

 

When we're on the road, down 20-10, the opposing crowd is going wild and the refs are playing along, they want to see a coach reacting and chewing people out, not being Archie Miller. 

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1 minute ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I mentioned it yesterday but Norlander has said several times this season that he didn’t take UL due to the fishbowl of it. No idea if that’s true. He Never mentioned the low buyout demand, and I have never found anything to support that oft mentioned claim. Maybe it’s true that it was a deal breaker? I dunno. 
 

In that same vein though, I agree with you I don’t understand where this “not an alpha” thing comes from lol. I don’t care if he’s a statue if he wins games. I know I don’t like Hurleys antics. 

Are Hurley’s antics even what’s considered “alpha” ? Lol… the term is really silly to me. Being a leader takes many forms, people have different styles. Alpha doesn’t mean anything IMO. No idea about the UL being a fishbowl thing but for example you could view it as alpha for him to say “screw that noise, I don’t need it for a job I don’t want.” just as easily as people assume he must be a soy boy beta for not wanting the attention lol.

We need a coach who knows how to be a leader. I don’t care if he does that by huffing and puffing or by being reserved and amiable. Just earn respect and win. 

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18 hours ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I am not trying to start a war here but I would like to know what it would take for everyone who doesn’t want Beard to change their mind (I am also in this camp)?

Would a Ray Rice type of mea culpa do it or is he persona non grata no matter what?

Mods can delete this if they think it is inappropriate. It is just something I have been thinking through and I wanted to solicit the RESPECTFUL opinions of others.

I already stated before that I wouldn't change my mind but I'll elaborate.

I feel very strongly about domestic violence.

\When I was a young, my mom's second husband was abusive. He was physically violent against my mom and younger brother and mentally/emotionally abusive to all of us. She wasn't with him too long before we left but it left a lasting impact. I remember. I remember the fear. I remember the fear my mom had even, especially, when she decided to take us and leave since that is one of the most dangerous times in an abusive relationship. He was such a POS that my sister, his daughter, didn't bother trying to get his paid off house and other belongings when he died without a will because she wanted nothing to do with him.

A lot of people view this as just a one-off "accident" or something. Domestic violence tends to escalate over time. So the thought that the first time this particular guy laid hands on a women was in his late-40s and resulted in the cops being called because of how very violent it was is laughable to me. It wasn't a single slap or punch. It was biting and strangling. She called the cops because she literally feared for her life.

People can fool themselves into thinking this was an isolated incident. I won't because the chance that it is is astronomically low.

I won't change my mind. If he is hired, I won't be a fan of IU basketball while he's the coach, possibly never again. Miller and now Woodson have made it easier than ever to walk away if it comes to that. That said, I think the chance that IU actually hires Beard is pretty much 0%.

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Dusty has a nice recruiting class coming in next year too so that could be a plus. What would be really fun is if we got Stevens and he swooped up Nate Ament 

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There’s a natural tendency to be attracted to an @$$-kicking, hyper-intense coach that wins.
But it’s also true that for a seemingly less intense coach like Stevens or May to be this successful there needs to be an extraordinary competitive fire and work ethic, albeit one that may not be as apparent to the public.

I hate to say it, but Painter is probably the perfect balance. He’s tough with his guys, doesn’t put up with crap. Doesn’t allow careless ball to take place. Also isn’t overly wild on the sidelines.

May is a calmer version of this. Michigan gets very careless, especially with leads. Not always super intense. They built a great roster and they are doing great but have chinks in the armor.

I’ll be happy if that’s the choice (and I think it will be) but I could see things snowballing on him.


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11 hours ago, Sobchak_Security said:

That would be me!  I’ve been a long time reader, but I’m not really connected to anyone and didn’t feel I had much to offer in terms of insights.  But optimism that Dolson can do with the mens basketball program what he did with football.  

Everyone has good insights and things to offer, just jump in and share.
 

Most of my opinions are that of a certified moron. For lots of us it’s cathartic, particularly when we are bad, which is often lol.
 

Hope you stick around, and remember, the mods are hiding ad revenue in shoe boxes and are not to be trusted— just kidding they’re all great. 

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25 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Why do people think Dusty doesn’t have a strong personality or isn’t “alpha” ? Genuinely curious what evidence there is of that. 

He’s not the coach we’re looking for I assure you.  I do think he’s the most likely hire though.  Better pray Brad says yes or we’re doing this again in 4 years.

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Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

He’s not the coach we’re looking for I assure you.  I do think he’s the most likely hire though.  Better pray Brad says yes or we’re doing this again in 4 years.

Thanks for your assurances and the photo of him in glasses. This totally reinforces that he is very much not alpha and not the coach for us. Thank you.

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9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

There’s a natural tendency to be attracted to an @$$-kicking, hyper-intense coach that wins.

But it’s also true that for a seemingly less intense coach like Stevens or May to be this successful there needs to be an extraordinary competitive fire and work ethic, albeit one that may not be as apparent to the public.

Coach K is sorta an example. 

With his soft-spoken, nasally voice -- he, most of the time, came off as a pretty nice guy. "I love my players. They love me. We're all one big happy Blue Devil family." 

But I understand he was a real SOB in practice and was as intense and foul-mouthed as anyone. 

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1 minute ago, LamarCheeks said:

Coach K is sorta an example. 

With his soft-spoken, nasally voice -- he, most of the time, came off as a pretty nice guy. "I love my players. They love me. We're all one big happy Blue Devil family." 

But I understand he was a real SOB in practice and was as intense and foul-mouthed as anyone. 

Coach K had plenty of Bobby in him…