General Coach Candidate News

[Iubravos]

16 minutes ago, dreachon said:

That is such a lazy statistic to parrot. 

Another clueless poster 

[Alford Bailey]

I have my top choices and  then alot of guys Im not excited about but would give a chance. Moser would be a gut punch. Archie 2.0. If thats the best we can do then we are just sad.

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 minute ago, Alford Bailey said:

I have my top choices and  then alot of guys Im not excited about but would give a chance. Moser would be a gut punch. Archie 2.0. If thats the best we can do then we are just sad.

I think Calbert Cheaney is the only candidate I’ve seen who I’d be even more disappointed in hiring than Moser.

[dreachon]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s not a junk argument. He’s had more losing seasons at Loyola than he has tournament appearances. That he’s coached in one bid conferences doesn’t matter as much when you consider the fact that the past four seasons are the only four where he was anywhere close to a tournament appearance. Here’s where he finished in his conference the other 13 seasons: 7th, 5th, 5th, 10th, 6th, 8th, 6th, 10th, 7th, 10th, 6th, 8th, 5th. 
 

Give him honorary tournament appearances in 2019 and 2020 to offset being in a one bid conference and he’s at 4 tournament appearances in 17 years as a head coach. That’s still terrible. It’s even worse than our 4 tournament appearances in the past 13 years. He should not be a serious candidate  

Every argument I've seen loves to totally ignore his last 4 years and focus on what his record was while he was busy building one of the top 10 teams in the country at Loyola. [shurg]

[Alford Bailey]

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I think Calbert Cheaney is the only candidate I’ve seen who I’d be even more disappointed in hiring than Moser.

Cant think we sink to this level.

[Bobman1]

What would make IU boosters any better than any other boosters

Hopefully deeper pockets.


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[Trish]

Arkansas prints money. Also, the only bad program there is football so everyone loves baseball and basketball. 

[IU Scott]

Just now, Bobman1 said:

Hopefully deeper pockets.


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I would assume most programs have big buck donors

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, Treesh said:

Arkansas prints money. Also, the only bad program there is football so everyone loves baseball and basketball. 

Walmart money 

[RaceToTheTop]

17 minutes ago, dreachon said:

Every argument I've seen loves to totally ignore his last 4 years and focus on what his record was while he was busy building one of the top 10 teams in the country at Loyola. [shurg]

Well, we should start with the fact that they are not one of the top 10 teams in the country.  Top ten teams aren't playing in the 8/9 opener or ranked 17th.  They certainly weren't a top ten team when they went to the final four, either.

Also -- nice to see you in these parts, dreach!

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Cant think we sink to this level.

I can’t imagine Dolson would want everyone to hate him after less than a year on the job. Some of the older crowd would be happy about Cheaney at first until the reality of the hire set in. Porter Moser would be whatever the opposite of winning the press conference is. He’s basically the opposite of the kind of candidate Dolson described at his last press conference. 

[dreachon]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

Well, we should start with the fact that they are not one of the top 10 teams in the country.  Top ten teams aren't playing in the 8/9 opener or ranked 17th.  They certainly weren't a top ten team when they went to the final four, either.

Your bias is showing there, Brum. I've known you long enough to know you're a Kenpom truther ;)

[Bobman1]

I would assume most programs have big buck donors

And I would assume Indiana donors are willing to spend more on basketball than Arkansas’. Who knows but I’m tired of worrying about which SEC/football schools are gonna take CTA and we can’t even have the luxury of poaching their bball coaches.


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[RaceToTheTop]

Just now, dreachon said:

Your bias is showing there, Brum. I've known you long enough to know you're a Kenpom truther ;)

You know I like Pom.  But Pom top ten doesn't make you top ten.  Would you call Colorado a top ten team?

[Alford Bailey]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I can’t imagine Dolson would want everyone to hate him after less than a year on the job. Some of the older crowd would be happy about Cheaney at first until the reality of the hire set in. Porter Moser would be whatever the opposite of winning the press conference is. He’s basically the opposite of the kind of candidate Dolson described at his last press conference. 

Without a doubt. Archie at least coached in the A10. A Moser hire would be giving up.

[AZ Hoosier]

40 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I’m not on that bus. I rather ride the Archie bus! (For another year before Brad comes home lol)

Brad. Ain't. Coming.

[dreachon]

Just now, brumdog45 said:

You know I like Pom.  But Pom top ten doesn't make you top ten.  Would you call Colorado a top ten team?

I would say something along the lines of, "Colorado is a top ten team according to Kenpom"

 

Obviously there are lots of subjective ways to present rankings based on what your goal is. For the sake of this argument, I was using Pom because it supported my argument, lol

[IU Scott]

2 minutes ago, dreachon said:

I would say something along the lines of, "Colorado is a top ten team according to Kenpom"

 

Obviously there are lots of subjective ways to present rankings based on what your goal is. For the sake of this argument, I was using Pom because it supported my argument, lol

That is why I hate when people base everything on stats and analytics because they don't paint a full picture.

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, Bobman1 said:

And I would assume Indiana donors are willing to spend more on basketball than Arkansas’. Who knows but I’m tired of worrying about which SEC/football schools are gonna take CTA and we can’t even have the luxury of poaching their bball coaches.


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Mussleman might end up being the coach of Indiana but it won’t be because IU paid more money then Arkansas.   

[dreachon]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That is why I hate when people base everything on stats and analytics because they don't paint a full picture.

I think the point is that no single statistic paints a full picture. Kenpom doesn't. Saying Moser has only made 2 career tourneys doesn't. NCAA Tournament seeding doesn't. That's exactly why these discussions need to be more nuanced than pointing to a single thing and saying "That's why that guy wouldn't be able to get it done at IU basketball."