General Coach Candidate News

[tortex28]

Why is everyone so infatuated with “coach in the waiting?”  I don’t understand. 

Seems to me any new coach would want to hire their own staff

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[dreachon]

9 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Another rumor for the rumor mill....my wife works in a large (class 6A) Indiana high school, and the folks in the athletic department there believe the hire will be Beilein with Calbert as the coach-in-waiting.  They have heard Beilein will coach 3 years and then turn the reins over to Calbert.  I asked her who they heard this from and she has no idea.  It kind of makes sense if they're considering Beilein, but I don't know....maybe they know something, maybe they don't.  

Beilein is sitting it at home without a job right now. If that was the plan, he could have been hired a week ago. 

[IUHoosierJoe]

4 minutes ago, bird4par said:

Why is everyone so infatuated with “coach in the waiting?”  I don’t understand. 

I'm not infatuated with it at all.  I'm not sure it's a good idea.  But if IU is considering hiring a 68-year-old coach (which I also don't think is a good idea), everybody knows he won't be coaching very long.  He'd almost have to have a coach-in-waiting for recruits to know.  At least that's what I would think.

[IUHoosierJoe]

1 minute ago, dreachon said:

Beilein is sitting it at home without a job right now. If that was the plan, he could have been hired a week ago. 

That's my thought....unless it's a back-up plan.

[bird4par]

2 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I'm not infatuated with it at all.  I'm not sure it's a good idea.  But if IU is considering hiring a 68-year-old coach (which I also don't think is a good idea), everybody knows he won't be coaching very long.  He'd almost have to have a coach-in-waiting for recruits to know.  At least that's what I would think.

Wasn’t meant to be directed at your post.  

[IUHoosierJoe]

2 minutes ago, bird4par said:

Wasn’t meant to be directed at your post.  

I thought you asked a good question nonetheless.

[dreachon]

I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about who the next coach will be at this point through some process of elimination. 

Coaches that are off the board bc they are available and we would have hired them already if we wanted them:

Cheaney

Woodson

Belein

Matta

Beard

Fife

Coaches that are off the board bc they're not interested

Stevens

Oats (most likely)

Holtmann (LOL)

Now let's remember the prevailing thought when Archie was fired. Many people thought Dolson "had his guy in mind" and that boosters paid the buyout because they liked Dolson's plan on where the coaching search would go. That takes Moser off the list. Archie was fired before the tournament and prior to Loyola going on another run, I doubt Moser would have been on the list. The same could maybe be said for Mike Cronin and Michael Lewis...

That leaves Musselman. Musselman is the guy and your next head coach of IU basketball. It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith. This is, what I believe to be, the best guess based on all the available information to us. 

[southernindianahoosier2]

I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about who the next coach will be at this point through some process of elimination. 

Coaches that are off the board bc they are available and we would have hired them already if we wanted them:

Cheaney

Woodson

Belein

Matta

Beard

Fife

Coaches that are off the board bc they're not interested

Stevens

Oats (most likely)

Holtmann (LOL)

Now let's remember the prevailing thought when Archie was fired. Many people thought Dolson "had his guy in mind" and that boosters paid the buyout because they liked Dolson's plan on where the coaching search would go. That takes Moser off the list. Archie was fired before the tournament and prior to Loyola going on another run, I doubt Moser would have been on the list. The same could maybe be said for Mike Cronin and Michael Lewis...

That leaves Musselman. Musselman is the guy and your next head coach of IU basketball. It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith. This is, what I believe to be, the best guess based on all the available information to us. 

So that leaves Musselman?
Who else ?


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[Nonymouse]

4 minutes ago, dreachon said:

I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about who the next coach will be at this point through some process of elimination. 

Coaches that are off the board bc they are available and we would have hired them already if we wanted them:

Cheaney

Woodson

Belein

Matta

Beard

Fife

Coaches that are off the board bc they're not interested

Stevens

Oats (most likely)

Holtmann (LOL)

Now let's remember the prevailing thought when Archie was fired. Many people thought Dolson "had his guy in mind" and that boosters paid the buyout because they liked Dolson's plan on where the coaching search would go. That takes Moser off the list. Archie was fired before the tournament and prior to Loyola going on another run, I doubt Moser would have been on the list. The same could maybe be said for Mike Cronin and Michael Lewis...

That leaves Musselman. Musselman is the guy and your next head coach of IU basketball. It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith. This is, what I believe to be, the best guess based on all the available information to us. 

Given that IU gave Holtmann a look (12M buyout and 3.2 salary), buyout/raise for Mussel (who makes 2.5 and has a 5M buyout) should be a non issue. 
 

I feel pretty strongly now that the wait is because they want to talk to Musselman. If he isn’t the coach, it probably won’t be because of money or that IU didn’t try. 

[go iu bb]

6 minutes ago, bird4par said:

Why is everyone so infatuated with “coach in the waiting?”  I don’t understand. 

I think it's because they want an "IU guy" who isn't Alford but also realize none of them have the resume right now to get excited about hiring them. That or they want Beilein butt realize he's old and don't want another search in a few years.

[str8baller]

5 minutes ago, dreachon said:

It makes sense in other ways as well if you believe we were able to inquire about his character and coaching style through Justin Smith.

I can almost guarantee you that the AD isn’t vetting coaching through disgruntled transferred players.  
 

I have no idea if it’s Musselman, but Justin Smith won’t have a thing to do with the search. 

[Papacap]

I can see why people are saying coaches who are available now are out because we’d already have hired them. And that’s likely true. Except for two scenarios:

1) Stevens is still an option (long shot, I know but someone wins the billion dollar lottery at some point.)

2) We are still negotiating with a coach in the tourney and it falls through.

But there are coaches available now I’d be happy with. Woody or Beilein. I get Beilein’s age and thug comment.

In the end, I think our new coach is still coaching but I don’t think it’s an absolute.

[ap2345]

Utah is hiring Utah States Craig Smith 

[ap2345]

1 hour ago, bird4par said:

Why is everyone so infatuated with “coach in the waiting?”  I don’t understand. 

I agree. It’s not realistic 

[ap2345]

[rcbowla]

Utah is hiring Utah States Craig Smith 

Good move for them. I like him

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[ISP]

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

I’d love that. If we are getting an Up and Comer, he’s #1 in my book.


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[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, ISP said:

I've seen a number of posters and tweeters mention that they are pretty certain it is Oats. I would personally love that. But I have seen /heard zero evidence that Dolson is "zeroing" or back channeling in on him. Did I miss something substantial?

No. You did not.

There are a LOT of wishful thinking posts with no evidence whatsoever.

Oats is locked in to a place for which price is no object.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

No. You did not.
There are a LOT of wishful thinking posts with no evidence whatsoever.
Oats is locked in to a place for which price is no object.
 

Seems likely


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