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5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I want our next coach to do what Oats did at Alabama.  They are a top 10 team over and over and over again.  Do I think Devries can do this at Indiana.  Nope. Oh well. I guess we will be better than with Woodson.  Maybe.  Not even convinced of that.  
 

3 million at WV vs 5 million for Woody.  Basically had an equivalent year.  I don’t see the extra 2 million being the difference at all.  

I would only ask you to take a look at Drake's history prior to DeVries.  

In his five years at Drake, his teams had an average record of 25-9.  In the ten years prior, Drake's average record was 13-18 and they only had a winning record' once (at 18-16).

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How about not judging a coach until we see what he can do. Does this resume look like a coach who would go on and win consecutive titles. I looked at Hurley's mid major jobs plus his first at a power conference 

Wagner

13-17 no tournament 

25-6 no tournament 

Rhode Island

8-21 no tournament 

14-18 no tournament 

23-10 no tournament 

17-15 no tournament 

25-10 tournament 

26-8 tournament 

UCONN

16-17 no tournament 

Devries

 

Drake 24-10 no tournament 

 

20-14 no tournament 

 

26-5 tournament 

 

25-11 no tournament 

 

27-8 tournament 

 

28-7 tournament 

 

WVU

19-13

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, GP711 said:

I predicted it would be the mystery candidate, I was wrong. I apologize to all.

I say this not to start an argument but to try and bury this whole p!ssing match I’ve been as guilty of participating in as anyone…

You don’t need to apologize for being wrong at all! That’s not why I and others have given you flak. It’s the engagement farming by dangling something everyone wants. I don’t doubt you guys were hearing stuff from people at all but you get yourself in hot water by alluding to your info being better than anyone else’s in the first place. When everyone shares what they hear plainly, without alluding to definitive knowledge or connections in high places, the posting community can just decide for themselves who to listen to about what and to what degree.

Anywho... My attempt to bury the hatchet. Excited to support the new coach. Go IU

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8 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Let me say how I think it went down and you can tell me if I'm way off-base:

  1. Swung big for Stevens again because boosters demand it. This went on for a while and it got really close again, but in the end he decided to stay in Boston.
  2. Then took a temperature check with some other people, and struck out again. 
  3. Started conducting a regular college basketball coaching search. 

There is no shame in striking out. In fact, you want him taking those swings. But getting someone from the NBA or out of a broadcast job is pretty tough when the money is similar and the job is easier. I'm actually pretty happy to have made a regular coaching hire this time instead of reaching into the NBA so I think it all might have worked out. I like getting a young guy who has something to prove instead of a guy at the end of his career. 

That was my worry all along. For those of you who are older. I had the worry of a Fred Akers at Purdue type of situation. 

I know that some older guys can work out, but I was far from sold on a coach like Jay Wright. He was a great coach at Villanova. Do you really think that he is still the same coach at 62 (or whatever age he is) after being out of the game for a few years? By that I mean, do you think that he's interested in grinding the same way that he did when he was 42? Of doing the extra 10 or 15 percent that it takes to be the best anymore? 

Maybe he would, but I would wonder. I would honestly wonder the same thing about Stevens and I even articulated that on here. He's not coached at all in a while and not in college in forever. Would he have the same fire at all to do the grunt work required anymore to really be successful anymore? I wonder...

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13 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

You could argue we did better than Louisville did last cycle, and just as good as UK when they pulled Pope. 
This is the landscape of the sport now. Sitting P5 coaches don’t need to leave their programs as often. 

I suppose. But both of those schools also have natty banners hanging, sorta, in the rafters within the last 10-15 years or so.  We're in a viscous cycle of mediocrity.

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This is one of the first days that I have been unable to keep up with the posts but based on quickly reading a few, with Devries name a number of times, I assume that means we somehow got him to agree to be Brads assistant. Awesome !

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4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Let me say how I think it went down and you can tell me if I'm way off-base:

  1. Swung big for Stevens again because boosters demand it. This went on for a while and it got really close again, but in the end he decided to stay in Boston.
  2. Then took a temperature check with some other people, and struck out again. 
  3. Started conducting a regular college basketball coaching search. 

There is no shame in striking out. In fact, you want him taking those swings. But getting someone from the NBA or out of a broadcast job is pretty tough when the money is similar and the job is easier. I'm actually pretty happy to have made a regular coaching hire this time instead of reaching into the NBA so I think it all might have worked out. I like getting a young guy who has something to prove instead of a guy at the end of his career. 

You are very close. I think Scott believed or was led to believe he had him this time. I haven’t gotten the whole story yet but I think he was told last minute as in Saturday that he either changed his mind or was a no go. I think we had already told a lot of coaches we had our guy. Then had to turning everything into overdrive. I’m sure Jerry will be able to explain it better.

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