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[Hoosier987 1,947]

20 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

Mine as well. He wins there's no doubt. But we've gone the up and comer route and they've all proven unable to handle being the head coach at Indiana. It's a risk and we have to stop that ****. Hire a proven winner who's been at big boy programs for the majority of their careers.

Ditto. After the Archie Miller and Mike Woodson risks…let’s get a sure thing…or at least as much as we can. I don’t think we get to McCollum but if for some reason we do, as I mentioned before - I don’t think we’re as an attractive program as I once thought and then would have to agree with @Scotty R

[Asha’man 386]

1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

AT NORTHWESTERN. Didn't hear me, I'll say it again. 

NORTHWESTERN. It's basically Saturday Night Live with a basketball team in one of the toughest conferences in college basketball. No top recruit goes to Northwestern. The students are total dorks. Do they even have NIL? This Chris Collins is a mediocre coach purely bc he hasn't won big at NW is laughable. The only argument against him is no one else has hired him. Give him resources and a school that cares and who knows.

Chris Collins is undervalued by many on this site. What he has done at NW has been remarkable. I’d take home 100 times out of 100 over Brownell. He wouldn’t be my first choice but I do think he could do very well at IU. If he is the floor of the search, then IU will be just fine. 

[IUguy77 351]

The same people that don’t want to risk McCollum would have taken May last season based on him making the title game the year before. Mike Davis made a title game too. 

[Unexpectedflash 1,393]

Just now, mdiu28 said:

AT NORTHWESTERN. Didn't hear me, I'll say it again. 

NORTHWESTERN. It's basically Saturday Night Live with a basketball team in one of the toughest conferences in college basketball. No top recruit goes to Northwestern. The students are total dorks. Do they even have NIL? This Chris Collins is a mediocre coach purely bc he hasn't won big at NW is laughable. The only argument against him is no one else has hired him. Give him resources and a school that cares and who knows.

I fully understand and even with the northwestern buff, i am not impressed w his results at all. I mean the argument against him is his resume sucks and it’s a big leap of faith expecting him to be totally different than the rest of his career. 

[Asha’man 386]

Just now, IUguy77 said:

The same people that don’t want to risk McCollum would have too May last season based on him making the title game the year before. Mike Davis made a title game too. 

I agree with this as a generalization. I was the opposite. I wasn’t a fan of May last year, but liked what I saw from him this year. Except his team has faded badly to end the season. Be interesting to see how he adjusts moving forward. 

[Hoosier987 1,947]

6 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

The same people that don’t want to risk McCollum would have taken May last season based on him making the title game the year before. Mike Davis made a title game too. 

Just stop. May is an IU alum, had D1 experience, and made the Final Four. all of which McCollum is not. Ridiculous comparison imo 

[cleeter 2,819]

So Brad, Otz, Drew and May are all no’s
My hopes, bring me Beard, Wade or Golden. I’ve seen McCollum love, and if you’re high on him, I don’t blame you. But I am not.
Those 4 above all are no’s (apparently) and if it isn’t on of those other three (to me), then I will officially say I am at the point where I need to lower expectations on what I hope to expect from this team.

Again, that’s all of course if Goodman and national media stuff is true.


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[Paye32 36]

15 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

Exactly. Where do people get the Archie had amazing resume? He won conference outright once and tied for first another time. He won less than 70 percent of his games at Dayton. McCollum has won 82 percent of his games over 15 years. Won his conference 11 times and won national title 4 times. Yea it was D2 but if it so easy how come everyone doesn’t do it. The guy knows how to win ball games plain and simple. And he’s capable of adjusting. 

Yep. Reminds me of a young Bruce Pearl who also succeeded in the D2 ranks early on. I say sign him up...Unless Pearl will take the job lol

[Uspshoosier 51,608]

1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said:

and made a National Title Game

Made a Final 4 and lost on a buzzer beater 

[IU5355 350]

10 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

I’m not even the biggest McCollum fan. Right now he has zero committed recruits. I know people bring up he’s winning with D2 players but those D2 players have been in his system for a long time. We’ve yet to see him have to recruit and replace players at this level. Despite that id still take him over Collin or brownell. Those two have shown they’re mediocre at this level 

I understand your concern with recruiting. 

But hell Woodson couldn't even remember names and still filled out nice rosters (talent wise not construction)

The question would be, would Mccollum bring his assistants with him? Or would he bring on a proven recruiter or two? Would it be part of the stipulation of accepting the job? 

[Hoosier987 1,947]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Made a Final 4 and lost on a buzzer beater 

Thanks. Final Four and buzzer beater. Point is, if you want McCollum fine…but to compare him to May is a tremendous overreach 

[Hoosierfan2017 23,864]

17 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

Exactly. Where do people get the Archie had amazing resume? He won conference outright once and tied for first another time. He won less than 70 percent of his games at Dayton. McCollum has won 82 percent of his games over 15 years. Won his conference 11 times and won national title 4 times. Yea it was D2 but if it so easy how come everyone doesn’t do it. The guy knows how to win ball games plain and simple. And he’s capable of adjusting. 

He was an assistant at four P5 programs and has four of Dayton’s nine tournament appearances over the last 35 years. He won 68.8% of his games, and over his last four seasons he won 73.9% of his games and 74.3% of his conference games. Maybe there were personality concerns that should’ve been obvious during the interview process, idk, but he was definitely a good candidate at the time and a great example of someone who can succeed at a lower level but couldn’t handle a job like IU.  
 

[IUguy77 351]

3 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Just stop. May is an IU alum, had D1 experience, and made a National Title Game…all of which McCollum is not. Ridiculous comparison imo 

McCollum has D1 experience too. 30-3 school record for wins and heading to tourney with D2 players. 

[Papacap 1,369]

Just now, IU5355 said:

I understand your concern with recruiting. 

But hell Woodson couldn't even remember names and still filled out nice rosters (talent wise not construction)

The question would be, would Mccollum bring his assistants with him? Or would he bring on a proven recruiter or two? Would it be part of the stipulation of accepting the job? 

If we are having to demand that a coach brings in a proven recruiter, he’s not ready for this job. It really is that simple for me. 

[BehindTheBench 909]

6 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Please be right! Lol!

I thought, FOR SURE, it would’ve come out this weekend. But, there’s a reason it didn't and that’s ok. Just remain patient. Good things are happening / have happened. It’s not a coincidence that the media, even guys like Goodman, have not a clue as to what is going on. Don’t bail on Dolson. Nothing about this search has been a failure. We’re all gun shy, and for great reason, but much better times are just around the corner. We got gotta get back to the Indiana way…

[Hoosier987 1,947]

1 minute ago, IUguy77 said:

McCollum has D1 experience too. 30-3 school record for wins and heading to tourney with D2 players. 

Whoa. 1 year. he’s not Dusty May.

[Hornsby 3,444]

We haven't quite reached the Michael Lewis/Dane Fife tier yet but we might within a week.

Starting to look like the search four years ago. Not getting may last year is just another iu fiasco. Already appears we have hit the bronwell level.

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[IUguy77 351]

1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said:

Yes. Correct…but he’s not Dusty May.

No he’s going to be better. He’s the guy Dusty May calls for help. 

[HoosierMatty 545]

People keep saying IU doesn't need to take a risk when hiring a candidate like McCollum. But whose to say IU has any choice in the matter. If all the top candidates tell us to kick rocks and other tier is candidates that have radioactive baggage or a candidate with mediocre results like Collins and Brownell, well eventually you are left with the up and comer tier. To be honest we shouldn't be surprised. Look what happened to U of L and UK. Hopefully we have similar results with whoever we pick.

[Asha’man 386]

1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said:

Whoa. 1 year. he’s not Dusty May.

Dusty isn’t ending the season well in a lower conference. So it’s not like he has set some insurmountable bar.