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[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, LockdownD said:

I was thinking about a prep school year for an incoming recruit. Wouldn’t that open up a spot for Brooks?  I think this was done by Tom Coverdale.  I hadn’t seen this idea brought up and I realize the rules maybe have changed.  Just a thought.

Only have 2 incoming recruits.  You want Bates on campus as soon as possible. That leaves Duncomb.   I think you will  need his center backup minutes next year. If a recruit goes the prep route you open up the option of him reopening his commitment plus you move your scholarship problem from this year to the next year 

[ap2345]

1 minute ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Likelihood of Brooks transferring to IU, ready set go

It ain't happening

[WayneFleekHoosier]

At least we have something to talk about regards to recruiting and roster makeup.  That's fun.

 

I'm not as excited about Brooks as I was in the past but I would love it if the spot he is occupying doesn't create a riff or drama within iubb family.  

 

I thought and think Brooks fits in the role of Kopp positionally.  Different player but both have their advantages and disadvantages.  I would have strongly preferred Brooks in this scenario.  However, if Jerome Hunter isn't bought in and wants to leave that makes sense from a roster makeup standpoint.   It's all much murkier than it was a week ago.

Wonder what Tracye thinks.  Are we done yet?

[ElectricBoogaloo]

No scholarship player is going to become a walk-on. Just not going to happen. It's not about the money, it's about the status.

[madmax]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'm not as excited about Brooks as I was in the past but I would love it if the spot he is occupying doesn't create a riff or drama within iubb family. 

The problem is that Brooks coming would almost certainly cause drama because it would necessitate the encouraged departure of one of our current players. If one of them leaves under their own volition, so be it. But I hate to see a talented player get pushed out the door for a player whose likely going to be a 1 year rental.

You know, it's funny. For all the talk about making the program more insular, being a family, establishing culture, we have an awful lot of people who are ready to kick one of our kids to the curb just to get a slightly better player(Not directed at you @WayneFleekHoosier). These two things don't really seem to jive.

[triple]

Is anyone tracking private jets between Lexington, Fort Wayne and Bloomington yet?  Kidding! 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Just now, ElectricBoogaloo said:

No scholarship player is going to become a walk-on. Just not going to happen. It's not about the money, it's about the status.

Truth, plus 14 is a ridiculous number.  13 is too really, but Ideally with a redshirt or 2 in the years of past it works better.  Purdue does more redshirts and they still see a lot of transfers.  It's going to happen more and more and there is nothing that can be done about it, but accept it.  So long as we are keeping our best and recruiting the best, the bottom 3 spots have little significance unless you have consistent mis-evaluations in recruiting.  And even then, those will transfer as well.  When the best players on your team transfer that's when questions arise.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

2 minutes ago, madmax said:

The problem is that Brooks coming would almost certainly cause drama because it would necessitate the encouraged departure of one of our current players. If one of them leaves under their own volition, so be it. But I hate to see a talented player get pushed out the door for a player whose likely going to be a 1 year rental.

You know, it's funny. For all the talk about making the program more insular, being a family, establishing culture, we have an awful lot of people who are ready to kick one of our kids to the curb just to get a slightly better player(Not directed at you @WayneFleekHoosier). These two things don't really seem to jive.

Yeah, I don't feel great about it either, but I also want to win.  I'm not encouraging it either, that's why I think if this was going to happen it should have happened instead of Kopp.  However, I think with the coaching change, the right people with the right conversations can make this work if this is what they think is right for the team.  

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I think we need to be realistic about Galloway’s trajectory, too. He’s a 6’4 wing who can’t shoot and doesn’t have great athleticism. He shot 31% from 3 and 63% from the free throw line in high school. As a senior, he shot 23% from 3 and 58% from the line. His free throw and three point percentages got worse as he progressed through high school. I know some see him as a potential Will Sheehey type, but Sheehey was 6’7, pretty athletic, and a serviceable shooter. Sheehey also struggled as a senior when he was no longer surrounded by elite talent. Woodson isn’t going to keep a kid around just because he’s from Indiana if he doesn’t think he’ll help the team. 

#1 — people that write off Galloway’s athleticism IMO are pigeon holing him.  He is a good athlete.

#2 — as a freshman and sophomore in high school — playing against much older players-/ he took a decent number of threes (near 200 I believe) and shot 37%.  The shot is fixable.

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, madmax said:

The problem is that Brooks coming would almost certainly cause drama because it would necessitate the encouraged departure of one of our current players. If one of them leaves under their own volition, so be it. But I hate to see a talented player get pushed out the door for a player whose likely going to be a 1 year rental.

You know, it's funny. For all the talk about making the program more insular, being a family, establishing culture, we have an awful lot of people who are ready to kick one of our kids to the curb just to get a slightly better player(Not directed at you @WayneFleekHoosier). These two things don't really seem to jive.

Someone is going to leave before the start of next season on their own because they are going to realize they are not going to play much. 

[Uspshoosier]

24 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I just think it is awesome that you can name an example off the top of your head. I'm not saying I would do it if I was Leal but just saying if it had to be done that could be a possibility. 

Andre Drummond was another one.   UConn was full and he played his only season at UConn as a walk-on 

[HoosierCoop]

If Jerome can make a leap this summer, I don't see that big of difference between he and Brooks.  I like what I saw out of Jerome toward the end of the season.  His 3 point shot was getting more consistent and he had no problem being a go-to guy when needed.  I saw his defense and post play improve as well.

I guess why rock the boat when we don't need to.

[madmax]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Someone is going to leave before the start of next season on their own because they are going to realize they are not going to play much. 

I could definitely see that, and if that is the case then full steam ahead.

[Hoosierfan2017]

11 minutes ago, madmax said:

The problem is that Brooks coming would almost certainly cause drama because it would necessitate the encouraged departure of one of our current players. If one of them leaves under their own volition, so be it. But I hate to see a talented player get pushed out the door for a player whose likely going to be a 1 year rental.

You know, it's funny. For all the talk about making the program more insular, being a family, establishing culture, we have an awful lot of people who are ready to kick one of our kids to the curb just to get a slightly better player(Not directed at you @WayneFleekHoosier). These two things don't really seem to jive.

I strongly disagree that Brooks is only a “slightly better player” than Trey Galloway. Anyway, I don’t see the two as mutually exclusive. You build a good culture but you’re still looking to maximize your talent. No one is irreplaceable and the players know that. Plus, Keion Brooks is very good friends with our best player. The culture would be fine. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Someone is going to leave before the start of next season on their own because they are going to realize they are not going to play much. 

I believe you are right.  I'm surprised it hasn't happened already tbh.  

[LockdownD]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Only have 2 incoming recruits.  You want Bates on campus as soon as possible. That leaves Duncomb.   I think you will  need his center backup minutes next year. If a recruit goes the prep route you open up the option of him reopening his commitment plus you move your scholarship problem from this year to the next year 

I agree with the argument of the possibility of losing a recruit. That’s not what anyone wants to see happen.  I was thinking about the honest conversation between Woodson and Duncomb about the skills Logan would need to develop to play at this level at Indiana.  As I recall, Logan was appreciative of the constructive evaluation and looked forward to working on his game.  Maybe those skills could be addressed at a prep school. 
Whatever happens, I totally support Coach Woodson. 

[madmax]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I strongly disagree that Brooks is only a “slightly better player” than Trey Galloway. Anyway, I don’t see the two as mutually exclusive. You build a good culture but you’re still looking to maximize your talent. No one is irreplaceable and the players know that. Plus, Keion Brooks is very good friends with our best player. The culture would be fine. 

Ok. Even still. What is better for the program? 1 to 2 years of Brooks or 3-4 years of Galloway? I'd argue that Galloway with proper development would be far, far more valuable to the program. It's not just about 2021-2022, it's about the next few years after that too.

[HoosierCoop]

My word, I never thought we would be worrying about playing time for individual players (especially at this time of the year).

Again, I leave it in the hands of our coaching staff.

[Coach Robby]

Give me guys who want to be here. Brooks had his chance. Opted for UK. I like our roster as it lies right now on paper. 

[JJacks]

12 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

Nope, you have me confused with someone else, I never said I was done with IU, although I did hate the hire.

Also, not saying it's MY honeymoon- talking about Woodson's. Things have gone well his first few weeks and everyone seems happy with the direction of the program, right? = Honeymoon. 

Finally, I've always thought Brooks was a mediocre headcase, not just now. 

You're welcome. 

 

 

Great leaders of young people can fix the "head cases".   Woodson could be just that.