(2020) PF/C - Dawson Garcia to Minnesota

[MikeRoberts 6,921]

Wanting to make the NCAA tournament in Archie’s third year is not a “WIN NOW” mentality.

Agreed. Making the tourney is pretty vanilla in terms of expectations in year 3 at Indiana

 

There are 64/68 teams that make the tourney, it’s really not asking for much

 

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[DChoosier 7,980]

1 hour ago, Old Friend said:

Disagree.  One more season and I agree.   I think Indiana will make the tournament and it'll all be moot, but he's obviously trying to build for the long term; and I think he at the very least deserves the opportunity to build an experienced roster before he's judged.     Some of you are in such a "win now" mode without taking into account the factors that go into that.  Things are going in the right direction whether we get Garcia or not.  Nothing ever hinges on one player; and it's exhausting every single season when some new kid is THE MUST HAVE! or it shows something much bigger is wrong.  

As with Tom Allen and the football program...take a breath and be patient.  It's moving in a good direction.

I think there is a difference between “being in the hot seat” and firing Archie. Also think year three is getting awfully close to being past the window of fans having a “win now” mentality.  If Archie is going into his 4th season without making the tourney I do think his seat will be justifiably hot but don’t think that means he should be fired. In any case I agree that it will be a moot point (hopefully) as I think we will make the tourney.

Agree that recruiting is going in the right direction and that Garcia (who would be nice to get) is not a MUST HAVE that will determine the future of the program. It’s almost funny to think of how many Moses Abraham’s etc we absolutely had to have or the world as we know it was going to end.

 

[Josh 12,569]

1 hour ago, Iugradman said:

Wanting to make the NCAA tournament in Archie’s third year is not a “WIN NOW” mentality.

Agreed.  How long do the slow learners need again?  Good grief, every game is exactly the same.

[HinnyHoosier 4,806]

People continue to look at this through the eyes of Indiana's former reputation and forget exactly what CAM stepped into when he took this job. He's working against the end product of 20 years of poor leadership and decision-making + a vastly changed landscape since we were consistently a royalty in the NCAA.

(If you need specifics for those two points of reference at this juncture then I've got nothing for you.)


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[Brass Cannon 24,271]

Just now, HinnyHoosier said:

People continue to look at this through the eyes of Indiana's former reputation and forget exactly what CAM stepped into when he took this job. He's working against the end product of 20 years of poor leadership and decision-making + a vastly changed landscape since we were consistently a royalty in the NCAA.

(If you need specifics for those two points of reference at this juncture then I've got nothing for you.)


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No people are looking at this thru the eyes of people expecting progress. 

[HinnyHoosier 4,806]

No people are looking at this thru the eyes of people expecting progress. 

The same people who have an unrealistic definition of progress?


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[Brass Cannon 24,271]

On the topic of Garcia 

 

Marquette fans are still making fun of Ostrom for meeting Garcia at Chilis. They haven’t realized Chili was raising money for his high school team 

[Brass Cannon 24,271]

Just now, HinnyHoosier said:

 

The same people who have an unrealistic definition of progress?


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We were a win away from the tourney last year( a year we should have made it) how is a 1 game improvement unrealistic progress 

[HinnyHoosier 4,806]

We were a win away from the tourney last year( a year we should have made it) how is a 1 game improvement unrealistic progress 

We're probably on different pages. Everyone agrees the expectation is a bigger tournament at the end of this season. Some, however, feel we should be at the point of 'making a run' by yesterday.


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[Uspshoosier 45,219]

Move the expectation garbage for the current team and coach out of this recruiting thread please. Keep this about Dawson Garcia.


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[Brass Cannon 24,271]

Just now, HinnyHoosier said:

 

We're probably on different pages. Everyone agrees the expectation is a bigger tournament at the end of this season. Some, however, feel we should be at the point of 'making a run' by yesterday.


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I honestly don’t see anybody expecting a run in this season. 

[HinnyHoosier 4,806]

Move the expectation garbage for the current team and coach out of this recruiting thread please. Keep this about Dawson Garcia.

 

 

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Our bad?

 

Ok. Dawson Garcia likes Chili's and got bored at Marquette karaoke. Back on track.

 

 

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[jonz44 805]

11 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

Our bad?

 

Ok. Dawson Garcia likes Chili's and got bored at Marquette karaoke. Back on track.

 

 

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That mean he's an IU lock? 

[JHoosier914 1,187]

3 minutes ago, jonz44 said:

That mean he's an IU lock? 

In my book, he is.

[RatpigHoosier 1,022]

Well, if for some reason we miss on DG, we always have Luke Brown to fall back on in ‘21! I kid, I kid....


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[jonz44 805]

1 hour ago, JHoosier914 said:

In my book, he is.

I like what you're publishing. 

[MikeRoberts 6,921]

Is he still looking at his phone?


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[mdn82 25,510]

Yeah it’s very quiet. Just looked at a few of their boards and they aren’t happy with the lack of information. No CB picks. No national guys saying anything about his visit.


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[Brass Cannon 24,271]

23 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Yeah it’s very quiet. Just looked at a few of their boards and they aren’t happy with the lack of information. No CB picks. No national guys saying anything about his visit.


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Whole recruitment has been incredibly quiet. Not often a 5 star player doesn’t at least have several experts with what they think are educated guesses. 

[Hardwood83 4,752]

Is the assumption Garcia will play the 4? I know he's not a post up guy, just thinking about the possibilities and potential of a Brunk, TJD, Garcia, Smith, Thompson & Hunter Frontline!