2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves

[HoosierAloha]

No idea how to truly interpret this or what the measuring stick was.  A freshman getting this award over upperclassmen???
Indiana Basketball @IndianaMBB
Effort. Attitude.

I interpret to mean that Archie and Co. are recruiting a certain type of player. That type of player won’t back down from anyone and will work his tail off.


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[8bucks]

Who won last year


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[Brass Cannon]

23 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Who won last year


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With our luck Jerome Hunter 

[Alford Bailey]

Green and Durham named co captains. Lots of comments on social media questioning Green.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1167083458772066304

https://mobile.twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1166857446066982913

This is some stuff that Wes Miller ran at UNCG that I would think it likely that Mike Roberts would have brought along and Archie could easily work into some of his base actions. Green, maybe even Hunter, running the baseline with any of the 3 bigs executing the pin down/slip, though I think it fits TJD the best. Great action to keep the post defender from over aggressively fronting. Love it. But, ya know, Wes Miller is a mid major Coach. So what could Roberts have really learned from him? 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

That cut seemed to only open up very challenging shots but I loved the slip


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1 hour ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

That cut seemed to only open up very challenging shots but I loved the slip


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Agree. With this roster, other than Green, you probably don’t run that action with the specific intent of getting that look, though I like it a lot for him. But what I love about it is that it mitigates the post defender’s ability to either hedge the baseline runner or to front the post. All he can really do is deny baseline side. So you’ve really got 4 options: 1) the catch and shoot 3, 2) the slip, 3) if the baseline defender is trailing there is an open driving lane middle, 4) if the baseline defender is able to stay close then you’ve got a clean post feed. Very cool.

 

[SlamaJamaSisley]

 

[Old Friend]

On 9/26/2019 at 11:18 AM, Stromboli said:

30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. 

 

I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. 

 

 

https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/

 

I'd far rather see him on the block with his back to the basket a-la Juwon Morgan than try to develop an outside game.   Why can't he be Dennis Rodman?  Why can't he be Stacey Augmon?   Why can't he be Juwon Morgan (the on the block version)?   Why can't he be Horace Grant?   I don't need to see him shooting more than 15 three's all season.

[mdn82]

I'd far rather see him on the block with his back to the basket a-la Juwon Morgan than try to develop an outside game.   Why can't he be Dennis Rodman?  Why can't he be Stacey Augmon?   Why can't he be Juwon Morgan (the on the block version)?   Why can't he be Horace Grant?   I don't need to see him shooting more than 15 three's all season.

Yeah I have no problem if he has the potential to be a decent shooter. Being a 50% free throw shooter should tell you what you need to know. Numerous players have been able to carve out a niche career doing other things that help a team win. But as was said on the last page, that would just make too much sense.

 

I really do think Justin could be a good player on a good team. Some people just can’t shoot outside a specific range. I think he could be a top 3-4 player in level of importance on a winning IU team as he has tools others just don’t have. I think we will have a good idea early on what to expect for the year. I am cautiously optimistic for this year. A lot depends on Hunter and his health. Ready for the season to get started.

 

 

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[Stuhoo]

I have a different take. 

Justin Smith has some extraordinary attributes: he is extremely intelligent, has incredible athleticism, and has a firm understanding of the defensive system.

I think his primary improvements need to be with his focus; in my opinion he floats and ball watches waaaaay too much. If he can remain hyper-focused at all times on the court, he will be a big asset.

 

[Brass Cannon]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I have a different take. 

Justin Smith has some extraordinary attributes: he is extremely intelligent, has incredible athleticism, and has a firm understanding of the defensive system.

I think his primary improvements need to be with his focus; in my opinion he floats and ball watches waaaaay too much. If he can remain hyper-focused at all times on the court, he will be a big asset.

 

If what Archie has said is true then it sounds like he may have. 

[mdn82]

I have a different take. 
Justin Smith has some extraordinary attributes: he is extremely intelligent, has incredible athleticism, and has a firm understanding of the defensive system.
I think his primary improvements need to be with his focus; in my opinion he floats and ball watches waaaaay too much. If he can remain hyper-focused at all times on the court, he will be a big asset.
 

We definitely need him to be to be successful. I think we definitely all want to be. I can’t disagree on the ball watching but last years team as a whole was bad at that. They expected Juwan or Romeo to create on every play. I do like hearing we are moving towards more of a motion style offense due to this. Not for sentimental purposes but because our last couple of teams needed continual structure offensively.


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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

I have a different take. 

Justin Smith has some extraordinary attributes: he is extremely intelligent, has incredible athleticism, and has a firm understanding of the defensive system.

I think his primary improvements need to be with his focus; in my opinion he floats and ball watches waaaaay too much. If he can remain hyper-focused at all times on the court, he will be a big asset.

 

Agree that he has the traits and experience to help defensively. But I just see a glaring misfit with Archie’s offensive philosophy. Just don’t see a role on that end. At all. I would like his fit as a 4 in a really high tempo style with a lot of player movement, like Eric Musselman’s system. Maybe what Smart does. Would have been fine with Crean. In an open court game he could absolutely be a problem. But Archie’s tempo and the stuff he runs, or at least what he was running last year, really minimize Smith’s strengths. I actually think transferring would have made a ton of sense for him. Since he chose to stay, I really hope the kid finds a niche. But I don’t see it. Love to be wrong. 

 

[LIHoosier]

Brunk in the Trunk wins the Dark Yellow jersey.

https://mobile.twitter.com/IndianaMBB/status/1185197394415280129/photo/1

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[IUc2016]

1 hour ago, LIHoosier said:

Brunk in the Trunk wins the Dark Yellow jersey.

https://mobile.twitter.com/IndianaMBB/status/1185197394415280129/photo/1

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I am really excited that both the winners have been players new to the team this year. But I am also kinda concerned that both the winners have been players new to the team this year lol 

[Brass Cannon]

27 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

I am really excited that both the winners have been players new to the team this year. But I am also kinda concerned that both the winners have been players new to the team this year lol 

To be fair one is a McDonald’s all American the other is a senior. They should be two of the better players. 
 

The only returning players I would expect to challenge them would be Rob, Hunter, Green and Smith. 

[IUc2016]

9 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

To be fair one is a McDonald’s all American the other is a senior. They should be two of the better players. 
 

The only returning players I would expect to challenge them would be Rob, Hunter, Green and Smith. 

I mean that is why I said I am excited and not excited at the same time

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I'd far rather see him on the block with his back to the basket a-la Juwon Morgan than try to develop an outside game.   Why can't he be Dennis Rodman?  Why can't he be Stacey Augmon?   Why can't he be Juwon Morgan (the on the block version)?   Why can't he be Horace Grant?   I don't need to see him shooting more than 15 three's all season.

Because that isn’t who Justin Smith is. He’s a Maurice Harkless type of player. A guy that is seen in the NBA as a slasher and defensive guy who can play the 3 and small ball 4. Just like Harkless. And a guy they’d let work on a 3pt game but it isn’t exactly a necessity early on in his career.


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[Old Friend]

25 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Because that isn’t who Justin Smith is. He’s a Maurice Harkless type of player. A guy that is seen in the NBA as a slasher and defensive guy who can play the 3 and small ball 4. Just like Harkless. And a guy they’d let work on a 3pt game but it isn’t exactly a necessity early on in his career.


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You make me laugh at least once a day.   The NBA.  For Justin Smith.  That's funny.  And a random "Maurice Harkless" reference?  Is that your way of saying "look at how much basketball I know!" ?   Justin Smith.  In the NBA as a "defensive guy," but you blow off the references I made.    My God, man.  Well...thank you for the laugh.  Not sure it's what you were after, but I did.