IUBB at Wisconsin - 1/2/18 @ 7:00 E.T.

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1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

I expect he will go to Kansas. I don't think we have much of a shot anymore.

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And sadly that might be for the best.  RL along with our signed recruits won't make us FF contenders, and then he'll be gone after one season.  It would stink losing a highly coveted, in-state player, but I'm beginning to believe that's not the recipe to resurrect this program. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

People have every right to be upset after 25 years of crappy basketball

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Then get mad at the people in charge because Archie has nothing to do with the past 25 years. 

[Trish]

It amazes me how many people are blaming the coach. Did Archie recruit a single one of these players? No.

He obtained a talentless roster from a coach who ran a terrible offense, taught zero defense, and held zero value for basketball IQ. 80% of this team shouldn't be playing in the B1G. Didn't this team just lose 3 NBA players while going 16-17 last year? I mean.. it just seems like common sense that this team wouldn't be good this year. 

 

[Stuhoo]

At the end of this season this roster sheds:

McSwain
Priller
Newkirk
A broken down Hartman
RoJo
And, I betcha, DeVonte Green

That will make a huge difference.



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[cthomas]

When things are this bad and effort is obviously this lacking, usually something is very wrong on the inside. Curtis Jones leaving may have just been the first indication. Some are probably just playing out the string knowing CAM doesn't have many options if he wants even a prayer of winning. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me to see another defection before the season is over. This team is going to look completely different next year...and it needs to!

[mark1981]

And sadly that might be for the best.  RL along with our signed recruits won't make us FF contenders, and then he'll be gone after one season.  It would stink losing a highly coveted, in-state player, but I'm beginning to believe that's not the recipe to resurrect this program. 

Idk. It will be a bad look if we miss on RL. We need a shot in the arm to get other recruits excited.

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[maharkn]

Never seen a player that a team absolutely cannot get a game plan. Happy isn't that good and every year Indiana makes him look like an NBA all-star

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[AZ Hoosier]

20 minutes ago, Josh said:

Ok, then how long does Archie let the inmates run the asylum? It's his job to get it right. He can't just let it keep happening.

Bench them all and play the guys who can hustle, show some effort and play with heart. It may be time for Normal Dale to make an appearance ("My team is on the floor", whomever that may involve).

[Magnanimous]

6 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

No but this is a 3 to 4 year rebuilt. We are not making the ncaa next year either. This is a dumpster fire right now.

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I think 3 years to look formidable, 4 to being capable of near consistently deep tourney runs (assuming he builds the program back up). Next year will be mostly freshmen running the show, plus Morgan and Davis if he turns things around. It reminds me of the 09-10 season when people thought the cavalry was coming and going to just right the ship. They're still going to be young and learning a new system. Once this incoming class are sophomores and we sprinkle in some wings from the 19 class, then we should get rolling. When this incoming class are juniors we should have enough talent, depth, and experience to really make some noise. Until then we'll just have to wait it out and hope we find players who can make something happen on a given night. 

The most important thing is improvement. Archie can't afford to have a season like Creans third year.

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2 minutes ago, mark1981 said:

 

 

Idk. It will be a bad look if we miss on RL. We need a shot in the arm to get other recruits excited.

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Yeah, it would stink but it's pretty much been the norm for the last couple of decades (missing on in-state studs).

[southsidehoosier]

Dakichs comments about Davis being lazy in practice tells me there's a lot more people who need to transfer out. I dvr'ed the game but shut it off when we got down by 5 in the 2nd half. I knew this team didn't have the grit to fight for this game


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[AZ Hoosier]

16 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Concerned. Just really worried for future of the iu brand really taking on some abuse this season

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After 2 years of cheatin' Kelvin and 9 years of Coach Clappy, the IU brand has already taken a beating.

[VO5]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

At the end of this season this roster sheds:

McSwain
Priller
Newkirk
A broken down Hartman
RoJo
And, I betcha, DeVonte Green

That will make a huge difference.



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I wouldn’t be surprised if Davis and Moore are added to that list

[IUfan_Charlie]

Next season will almost certainly be more fun to watch because of all the young guys but I'm not expecting our record to improve much at all from this year. And I agree with Stuhoo, I think Green is gone. 

[Bailey7878]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Davis and Moore are added to that list

Moore is gone imo

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[southsidehoosier]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Davis and Moore are added to that list

If Davis cant give any better effort I hope he does leave. No excuse for laziness.


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1 minute ago, VO5 said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if Davis and Moore are added to that list

I have to wonder if Davis is actually capable of thriving in the Big Ten.  He spent the entire summer training and working on his conditioning, but was getting consistently beaten by Happ (footwork and in the air).  Maybe he's not physically talented enough to play at this level (IDK).  Whatever the case is, he's just not making much of an impact on the court.

[VO5]

4 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said:

 

If Davis cant give any better effort I hope he does leave. No excuse for laziness.


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I just don’t think he’s an ideal big for Archie’s system. That’s why I’m warming up to Forrester. I think athletic, long bigs who can play D, rebound, block shots are what Archie is going for. He wouldn’t have ever recruited Davis.

[Stuhoo]

I have to wonder if Davis is actually capable of thriving in the Big Ten.  He spent the entire summer training and working on his conditioning, but was getting consistently beaten by Happ (footwork and in the air).  Maybe he's not physically talented enough to play at this level (IDK).  Whatever the case is, he's just not making much of an impact on the court.

Davis was exposed to me in the Duke game. How?
By showing me how good he can be when he gives real effort.
Everything since then has been the same player, but without real effort.



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[OliviaPope40]

Give me a team of McRobets, Hartman, and Morgan and build it around those guys they're the only ones who look like they want to be there.