WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 Sorry, but I don't believe this for a second. Definitely ahead of us1. Duke2. Arizona3. UConn4. BYU5. Louisville6. North Carolina7. Kansas8. St. John’s9. Arkansas10. Kentucky11. MichiganThen the maybe list:12. Alabama13. Michigan State14. Illinois15. Houston16. Florida17. NC State18. Tennessee 19. UCLA20. USC.An extra 20. Texas Tech There’s 21. Could we be behind this group of 9 reasonably? Absolutely. I’d argue we are behind much of this group. Others In contention21. Texas22. Missouri23. Ohio State24. Baylor25. Washington26. Miami27. Texas AM28. Iowa State29. Gonzaga 30. Kansas state31. Georgetown32. Ole Miss33. Oregon34. Auburn 35. MemphisCould argue a few from this group. Maybe I’m missing some contenders.I’d say confidently we aren’t top 10. I think 10-15 is possible but based on rosters this year I could see us below the 20 I named in this post. I think some of the contenders might have surpassed us too. Oregon, Texas, OSU, Washington has an expensive roster. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
OGIUAndy Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 26 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Definitely ahead of us 1. Duke 2. Arizona 3. UConn 4. BYU 5. Louisville 6. North Carolina 7. Kansas 8. St. John’s 9. Arkansas 10. Kentucky 11. Michigan Then the maybe list: 12. Alabama 13. Michigan State 14. Illinois 15. Houston 16. Florida 17. NC State 18. Tennessee 19. UCLA 20. USC. An extra 20. Texas Tech There’s 21. Could we be behind this group of 9 reasonably? Absolutely. I’d argue we are behind much of this group. Others In contention 21. Texas 22. Missouri 23. Ohio State 24. Baylor 25. Washington 26. Miami 27. Texas AM 28. Iowa State 29. Gonzaga 30. Kansas state 31. Georgetown 32. Ole Miss 33. Oregon 34. Auburn 35. Memphis Could argue a few from this group. Maybe I’m missing some contenders. I’d say confidently we aren’t top 10. I think 10-15 is possible but based on rosters this year I could see us below the 20 I named in this post. I think some of the contenders might have surpassed us too. Oregon, Texas, OSU, Washington has an expensive roster. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Sorry I don't really understand this "could" argument? Why would IU do this? So IUFB has success they are just going to gut their BB NIL? This is bordering on a straw man argument. Home Jersey 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 Hey all, a friendly reminder that this convo has completely veered into the basketball forum so pls take it there. Thanks rayl456 and Lebowski 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 Sorry I don't really understand this "could" argument? Why would IU do this? So IUFB has success they are just going to gut their BB NIL? This is bordering on a straw man argument. No one said any of this. I said we might not be top 20 nil program in basketball. I listed schools as a mental exercise. It matches up. No one really knows. The “could” be section was schools I’m not as sure about. I think we are ahead of most of those besides maybe Oregon, OSU, Washington, Gonzaga, Texas. Idk. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app OGIUAndy, Home Jersey and 8bucks 2 1 Quote
Lebowski Posted December 13, 2025 Author Posted December 13, 2025 38 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Hey all, a friendly reminder that this convo has completely veered into the basketball forum so pls take it there. Thanks Thank you kindly for making this statement. Quote
Lebowski Posted December 13, 2025 Author Posted December 13, 2025 2 hours ago, rcbowla said: There is zero reason both can't be in the national spotlight. No need to rob Peter to pay Paul. Fund/support both and be nationally relevant annually in both marquee sports in collegiate athletics. IUFB is indeed driving the bus. That was never the case, ever. It is now. Finally. It will be considered first and foremost before any other sport in the department. And doing so will pay dividends for every single sport, especially the basketball program. If you live in the 812, every store that has any sort of sports apparel is currently stacked with IUFB. More than I have ever seen in my lifetime. I used to see a lot back in the late 80s/early 90s, but nothing like this. WayneFleekHoosier, LockdownD, Home Jersey and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 Walking through the outdoor farmers market in West Palm Beach, Florida this morning. Saw three separate instances where someone was wearing IU gear. Never saw that before, and it’s not because of basketball. Lebowski, LockdownD, Crimson and Cream and 1 other 4 Quote
Stuhoo Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 I’m sure that it’s being discussed; wondering how we’re going to add about 15,000 seats to Memorial. Was at a crap-@$$ U Florida game last month and the high, steep monster stadium there is still louder than ours is for an @$$ kicking team. Quote
rcbowla Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 10 minutes ago, Lebowski said: IUFB is indeed driving the bus. That was never the case, ever. It is now. Finally. It will be considered first and foremost before any other sport in the department. And doing so will pay dividends for every single sport, especially the basketball program. If you live in the 812, every store that has any sort of sports apparel is currently stacked with IUFB. More than I have ever seen in my lifetime. I used to see a lot back in the late 80s/early 90s, but nothing like this. Oh, I'm by no means arguing which sport drives the financial bus. I'm just simply saying there is no need to start ignoring basketball due to football success. Their can be high end commitment to both simultaneously. In fact there are many schools that have and currently are doing just this. I just want it all.....that too much to ask? Quote
Pagoda Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 JMO I think we’ll add a few seats but I’d guess we add premium seating and max out at 60K. Perhaps that’s a self-imposed limitation on my part! For shame! Memorial Stadium has some fairly steep stands, but yea it’s not Ben Hill Griff. I kinda think most of it is down to our fans who can probably get a little more wild than they are — like in AH when we were good or the Illinois game this year. Memorial could be a little more Autzen-like over time I would hope. To be clear I’m not complaining just observing. We’ve come a long way baby and more is possible. Home Jersey and cthomas 2 Quote
Lebowski Posted December 13, 2025 Author Posted December 13, 2025 1 minute ago, rcbowla said: Oh, I'm by no means arguing which sport drives the financial bus. I'm just simply saying there is no need to start ignoring basketball due to football success. Their can be high end commitment to both simultaneously. In fact there are many schools that have and currently are doing just this. I just want it all.....that too much to ask? I don't think I said any such thing. My point was IUFB is number one over any other sport in the department. That was made clear with what they're paying the DC. And funds that were typically allocated to IUBB might not be there anymore. Especially if there's a chance to land a top recruit for the football program. 8bucks and Home Jersey 2 Quote
Lebowski Posted December 13, 2025 Author Posted December 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, Pagoda said: JMO I think we’ll add a few seats but I’d guess we add premium seating and max out at 60K. Memorial Stadium has some fairly steep stands, but yea it’s not Ben Hill Griff. I kinda think most of it is down to our fans who can probably get a little more wild than they are. The pressbox is definitely coming down and rebuilt. Lol. Pagoda, southsidehoosier and 8bucks 2 1 Quote
cthomas Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 We have come a long way and still have a long way to go. Locking down Haines was a great start. We need to establish sustainability to really grow the program. Remember, the big boys have generations of success to rely on. We are just starting. We'll get there if the commitment continues. Outside of the 76 basketball team, the past two years of football have been the most enjoyable in my life. J34 and Lebowski 2 Quote
Lebowski Posted December 14, 2025 Author Posted December 14, 2025 FINALLY!! This one's for AT and Mallory! Heisman is in the 812! Banksyrules, rayl456, Home Jersey and 2 others 5 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 14, 2025 Posted December 14, 2025 3 more wins. cthomas, southsidehoosier and Home Jersey 3 Quote
DChoosier Posted December 14, 2025 Posted December 14, 2025 When we hired a coach from JMU I distinctly (LOL) remember predicting: We would go the the playoffs two years in a row Get a bye in the second year We would be rated first in the NATION Would beat OSU and win the Big Ten Go undefeated Win Coach of the year two years in a row Win Assistant of the year Win the Heisman etc etc RoadRage and Josh 2 Quote
RoadRage Posted December 14, 2025 Posted December 14, 2025 13 hours ago, DChoosier said: When we hired a coach from JMU I distinctly (LOL) remember predicting: We would go the the playoffs two years in a row Get a bye in the second year We would be rated first in the NATION Would beat OSU and win the Big Ten Go undefeated Win Coach of the year two years in a row Win Assistant of the year Win the Heisman etc etc It is already the biggest turnaround in sports history.....hopefully there is more history to make! Quote
Magnanimous Posted December 14, 2025 Posted December 14, 2025 13 hours ago, DChoosier said: When we hired a coach from JMU I distinctly (LOL) remember predicting: We would go the the playoffs two years in a row Get a bye in the second year We would be rated first in the NATION Would beat OSU and win the Big Ten Go undefeated Win Coach of the year two years in a row Win Assistant of the year Win the Heisman etc etc I was a huge (video game) NCAA football fan growing up and bought the game annually until about 2008. When they finally brought the series back last year, I went over a friend’s house and tried it out in July 2024, mainly for nostalgia. Mind you, this was the first time ever they had player names in the game. This was my exact reaction throwing passes with some dude named Kurtis Rourke… str8baller and LIHoosier 1 1 Quote
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