Indiana at Tennessee (Exhibition), 10/27 at 3:00 pm SEC+ Network

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Didn't get to watch the last 10-15 minutes but pleasantly surprised.

[Uspshoosier]

19 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Didn't get to watch the last 10-15 minutes but pleasantly surprised.

You can watch it on demand and fast forward to the last 15 min if you want to 

[Stuhoo]

21 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Didn't get to watch the last 10-15 minutes but pleasantly surprised.

Well if you were pleasantly surprised already, the last 10-15 minutes will only be pleasant-er.

[Muskie plays the four]

Up on YouTube in a couple places 

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I know it’s early but a little concerning that we were 4-19 from 3 but the good news, we shoot 19 threes and it’s an exhibition game!   

4-8 in second hald iirc. Tenn was just as bad from 3 in the first, both teams came out looking like it was the first exhibition game of the season and against a good team

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Similar takes from scrimmage except Rice showed out. He’s the winner on the team. Smart. Does the big and little things. Thought the hustle was solid down the stretch. We are going to go as Rice/Reneau/Ballo go.

Goode needs to be better. Carlyle hasn’t looked good to me yet. Want to see Lots of Tucker and Gallo. Chaz Lanier shot UT out of this game. Want more transition to help Ballo.

Tennessee is notoriously a great defensive team. Hopefully our playmaking and shooting improves but beating a well coached and talented team on the road is a nice start.


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[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, coonhounds said:

I felt Hatton had some good moves but finished at the basket about as good as sparks did

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Time will tell -- sample size of two shots isn't going to be much to go on.

The fact that he played six minutes in the exhibition game is probably indicative that he isn't going to be looked on for big minutes.  He is a decent shooter for his size and I would expect that you'll see more ten to twelve footers for him.  At worst, he's an experienced big in case of foul problems or injury.

[MikeRoberts]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Similar takes from scrimmage except Rice showed out. He’s the winner on the team. Smart. Does the big and little things. Thought the hustle was solid down the stretch. We are going to go as Rice/Reneau/Ballo go.

Goode needs to be better. Carlyle hasn’t looked good to me yet. Want to see Lots of Tucker and Gallo. Chaz Lanier shot UT out of this game. Want more transition to help Ballo.

Tennessee is notoriously a great defensive team. Hopefully our playmaking and shooting improves but beating a well coached and talented team on the road is a nice start.


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Couldn’t agree more. No way Gallo doesn’t start or at least get starter minutes over Carlyle. Tucker is going to be one of our top 5 players and make it hard to keep off the court in important moments.

glad to see Rice ball out and so far be exactly what we need

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

You can watch it on demand and fast forward to the last 15 min if you want to 

That's what time doing right now. Replay was on ESPN+ still.

[Shooter]

Myles Rice is exactly what this program has been missing. 20 pts today, 4 assists, 0 TO in 31 minutes. And a couple of huge plays to close the game out down the stretch.

I thought Woodson's rotations were pretty good, particularly in the first half. Long stretches with Mgbako and Goode as the two forwards. If everyone is healthy, assume Galloway takes Cupps minutes and Tucker takes Leal's and some of Goode's.

Outside shooting was terrible again. Has to be better. Both teams shot poorly, but they generated more clean looks than we did.

Reneau is a stud scorer. And he did it in a number of different ways, not just iso post-ups.

Ballo didn't do much other than rebound. He'll have better games.

[MikeRoberts]

1 minute ago, Shooter said:

Myles Rice is exactly what this program has been missing. 20 pts today, 4 assists, 0 TO in 31 minutes. And a couple of huge plays to close the game out down the stretch.

I thought Woodson's rotations were pretty good, particularly in the first half. Long stretches with Mgbako and Goode as the two forwards. If everyone is healthy, assume Galloway takes Cupps minutes and Tucker takes Leal's and some of Goode's.

Outside shooting was terrible again. Has to be better. Both teams shot poorly, but they generated more clean looks than we did.

Reneau is a stud scorer. And he did it in a number of different ways, not just iso post-ups.

Ballo didn't do much other than rebound. He'll have better games.

Agree except Ballo screens and clears the lane better than I have seen centers in recent IU history. 

[Joe_hoopsier]

16 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Agree except Ballo screens and clears the lane better than I have seen centers in recent IU history. 

I predict that Ballo will only be ~70% of what we expected. Good, but not B1G POY or even close. I could be wrong and hope so.

[MikeRoberts]

Just now, Joe_hoopsier said:

I predict that Ballo will only be ~70% of what we expected. Good, but not B1G POY or even close. I could be wrong and hope so.

POY would be amazing but I dont expect that or anything. If he is top 3 center in the bigten then we are in good shape. I imagine Rice will be top 3 point guard so that’s pretty good in a 20 team bigten

[8bucks]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Similar takes from scrimmage except Rice showed out. He’s the winner on the team. Smart. Does the big and little things. Thought the hustle was solid down the stretch. We are going to go as Rice/Reneau/Ballo go.

Goode needs to be better. Carlyle hasn’t looked good to me yet. Want to see Lots of Tucker and Gallo. Chaz Lanier shot UT out of this game. Want more transition to help Ballo.

Tennessee is notoriously a great defensive team. Hopefully our playmaking and shooting improves but beating a well coached and talented team on the road is a nice start.


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Carlyle did hit our first 3 though. Hopefully he can find more comfort and hit a lot of those even if not a starter.  We need guys willing to shoot the 3 and hit them 

[HoosierFan1994]

About to turn off my Cowboys to rewatch this game. 

1) Felt it was a bold statement but seems like everyone is in agreement...Myles Rice I think is the best IU guard since Yogi. I know Ballo probably cost more NIL wise but Rice was the bigger get. Hope he continues to look good. 

2) Was nice to see Malik step up. I was thinking there would be a 2012 Verdell or 2022 Race like drop off for him this year. 

3) Pretty impressive considering Trey and Tucker were out. Carlyle I thought looked okay on defense? I may be wrong, Trey could be the starting two guard.

4) Three point shooting was meh. That was to be expected. Not to rain on the parade, I don't think Tennessee is #12 good. They deserve to be ranked. But Knecht was a huge loss. The announcer that sounded like Cleveland from Family Guy said it best, they need to find their go to guy. Not sure they have one. 

Glad they did this game. Outside the Battle 4 Atlantis the non-conference is awful which is upsetting.  

[cthomas]

I watched a replay on YouTube and thought I was watching probably the bottom two teams in their respective leagues. Just kidding, but it was mostly ugly. I don't really know anymore about this team than I did before. Other than Rice looks like an upgrade and Ballo is going to be a load for opposing teams. I think as far as the league goes, I think Purdue we look good early because of their continuity, and everyone else will catch up as the season goes on. If things go sideways early, I may have to abandon this board for a while.

[Golfman25]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  Granted first exhibition game, but to me still looks like some structural issues remain — gave a lot of open looks to TN from 3 (which they missed) and IU missed a lot of threes as well.  Hopefully they’ll change that and/or the new talent will make it less concerning.  Everything else looked good for the first one.  

[SamIam]

Takeaways:  Man I wanted Rice so bad and I'm feeling vindicated. So fast, great on D, and smooth from the midrange. He's an older, more measured, better on D version of JHS. And he's almost 22 with 3 years left. Unreal get. 

I think KC had an off night, but looked pesky on D and I think the shot will fall. He's a little more of a streaky scorer but there will be nights when he can't miss. 

In the HH scrimmage and now I noticed Reneau looking more fluid and athletic. 

Mgbako looked comfortable and got in passing lanes a ton, really using his length more. 

I think this is what Ballo will look like pretty much all season and I think that's a good thing. He's not a great scorer, he's a crushing screen setter and one of the best rebounders in CBB. Doing what he did tonight, even while not filling it up scoring does so much for the team. 

Cupps looks way more comfortable and we didn't even have Gallo or Tucker. To me, thats huge. We need to play 10 deep in the non-con, preserve our top guys and trust the second unit to help run up the score. If we learned anything from last year it's that we need to dump on inferior teams to help our metrics early in the season, and the depth I saw tonight gives me hope. Cupps Leal Tucker Goode and one of the bigs is should be good enough to run it up on a weak team.

[dwtaylor1055]

First half was ehh for both teams(some jitters) - felt like the 2nd half both teams finally started playing in sync and with real purpose:

Rice is that dude.  He will be playing at the next level (selfishly I hope he is in an IU uniform for more than one year).  He can drive, push the ball, find the open man and finish at the rim.  A three-level scorer and passer.  

Ballo will be a nightly double double machine and a force down low(I noticed a few times if Rices guy got into the lane with the ball, Rice left his guy to slide away and put a body on Ballos guy(Ballo slide into the lane to take on Rices guy to contest the ball/shot).  Great IQ and awareness on Rices part.  

Keep shooting Goode.....Keep shooting Goode.  he won't go 0-5 very ofter

Kanaan was meh for me on offense, on defense he was pesky.  He is our wild card for the season IMO. 

Malik looks better and looks improved.  

MM looks better and looks improved.  

 

it was only an exhibition game BUT we came away with no injuries, we got to see a glimpse of the team together(minus Gallo and Tucker) on the road in what felt like a true in season road game and beat a ranked opponent that will be playing likely past day one and day two of March Madness.  I'd say yesterday was a success.  

[Dave from Dayton]

8 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  Granted first exhibition game, but to me still looks like some structural issues remain — gave a lot of open looks to TN from 3 (which they missed) and IU missed a lot of threes as well.  Hopefully they’ll change that and/or the new talent will make it less concerning.  Everything else looked good for the first one.  

I would agree if this was about the first half and the early part of the 2nd half.  But, then things rapidly changed.  IU was playing against what may prove, again, to be an elite defensive team.  One of the best teams, possibly, in the SEC.  

Big difference in what I saw was a possibly elite PG in Miles Rice.  Quick, decisive, gets to the rim, distributes quickly, handles pressure well.  

Also, once Reneau got warm and he and Ballo played high/low, things started to click.

Finally Mack shook off the rust and contributed.  

Defense got better and IU got the ball across the half court rapidly.  Half of the 8 three point shots in the 2nd half were good.

And Coach Woody did not platoon and pull the starters all at once.  

Not only did this look different, after lots of questions in the first half, but it looked light-years better to me.

Holy Basketball, Batman!  A point guard that is smart and quick and makes things happen and defends.  Been yearning for this since...well...a bunch of seasons too numerous to count. And adjustments during the game that worked...and defensive focus.  Pinch me.